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Old 12-19-2016, 07:19 AM   #81
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I don't think the 3D was as strong as Force Awakens but I will need to watch Rogue One again on disc to confirm. The 3D was very nice however and well done throughout. There were plenty of scenes and set pieces and locations that made great use of 3D and the whole movie is visually impressive from start to finish.

As a movie though I was fairly unimpressed, hopefully it'll be a grower. I definitely enjoyed it more than Force Awakens as it doesn't feel like such a rehash/ remake like that movie did. I did think the first two acts were quite dull and the characters throughout were quite dull, a generally good cast wasted on paper thin roles. The third act certainly amps things up a bit although that's when it feels like we're watching a remake of Return of the Jedi or Phantom Menace with a land battle, a space battle and a personal mission all occurring simultaneously. It seems the folk at Lucasfilm/ Disney are really struggling to give us something fresh with these new movies.

With more compelling characters and a tighter story (the movie is too long and takes too long to get to the good stuff) this would have been a much more engaging experience. I'm glad I enjoyed it more than Force Awakens but I feel these Star Wars movies could be a lot more interesting if they just let loose and did something truly fresh and new. Rogue One is probably as good as I could have hoped though considering it's a story where you know the good guys succeed ahead of watching and
[Show spoiler]you probably know they all die ahead of time too, due to not cropping up or being mentioned in a New Hope (apart from a mention that they all die lol).
I'm hopeful that down the line Disney will give us some fresh Star Wars stories rather than just pumping out fan service movies. Of course with a Han Solo and Boba Fett movie on the horizon, it doesn't look like that'll be happening anytime soon lol.

Also whilst they did their best bringing back old characters through CGI I thought they might as well just recast those roles. Seeing as they've re-casted Han Solo and Lando for the Han Solo movie, why not recast for a young Leia or Tarkin? The CG is obviously a long way from being truly convincing so it just becomes distracting
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Old 12-19-2016, 08:43 AM   #82
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Saw the movie again, this time in IMAX 3D. The 3D on IMAX was much stronger than on the normal cinema presentation. I would say 3.5/5 for IMAX 3D and 3.0 for normal 3D. There could be more pop outs but it's still all good as the layering is OK.

Spider-Man Homecoming 3D trailer had very strong 3D.
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Old 12-19-2016, 01:37 PM   #83
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Saw it last night in real 3D. Awful 3D in the location I saw it in. Story was kind of interesting with how it ties in with the original but somehow was not good overall. Last years starwars was better. I never thought this could happen that I stopped thinking of myself as a Star Wars fan.
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Old 12-19-2016, 02:44 PM   #84
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I don't think the 3D was as strong as Force Awakens but I will need to watch Rogue One again on disc to confirm. The 3D was very nice however and well done throughout. There were plenty of scenes and set pieces and locations that made great use of 3D and the whole movie is visually impressive from start to finish.

As a movie though I was fairly unimpressed, hopefully it'll be a grower. I definitely enjoyed it more than Force Awakens as it doesn't feel like such a rehash/ remake like that movie did. I did think the first two acts were quite dull and the characters throughout were quite dull, a generally good cast wasted on paper thin roles. The third act certainly amps things up a bit although that's when it feels like we're watching a remake of Return of the Jedi or Phantom Menace with a land battle, a space battle and a personal mission all occurring simultaneously. It seems the folk at Lucasfilm/ Disney are really struggling to give us something fresh with these new movies.

With more compelling characters and a tighter story (the movie is too long and takes too long to get to the good stuff) this would have been a much more engaging experience. I'm glad I enjoyed it more than Force Awakens but I feel these Star Wars movies could be a lot more interesting if they just let loose and did something truly fresh and new. Rogue One is probably as good as I could have hoped though considering it's a story where you know the good guys succeed ahead of watching and
[Show spoiler]you probably know they all die ahead of time too, due to not cropping up or being mentioned in a New Hope (apart from a mention that they all die lol).
I'm hopeful that down the line Disney will give us some fresh Star Wars stories rather than just pumping out fan service movies. Of course with a Han Solo and Boba Fett movie on the horizon, it doesn't look like that'll be happening anytime soon lol.

Also whilst they did their best bringing back old characters through CGI I thought they might as well just recast those roles. Seeing as they've re-casted Han Solo and Lando for the Han Solo movie, why not recast for a young Leia or Tarkin? The CG is obviously a long way from being truly convincing so it just becomes distracting


Yeah, I agree that the CGI characters were a bit sketchy at times although I felt they did a better job with Moff Tarkin than Leia so it was kind of neat seeing a "new" Peter Cushing performance considering he's been dead for over 20 years. Makes you wonder if this type of thing will start happening more and more where they'll just resurrect old film stars and create entire films with their likenesses (the film The Congress deals with this type of situation before it goes off the rails crazy). Still, they appear too waxy looking to be truly convincing. Although the inclusion of
[Show spoiler]Red and Gold leader was quite cool and obviously more life-like since they re-purposed unused archival footage from the A New Hope, very cool!
.

I thought the two main characters were good. I like that Andor was a bit of a scoundrel in the Han Solo mold (
[Show spoiler]established early on when he kills one of his informants yet later on decides to try and do the right thing by not killing Jyn's father
). The other miscellaneous rogue's were thin (with Donnie Yen's character being the only other one with some personality) but that's usually the case with Magnificent Seven type groupings, only enough time for a few to shine.

The scenes on Scarif were obviously the best, quite nice to see a beautiful beach world instead of a bustling city or desert world like it's been most of the time with Star Wars. When it comes to enjoyment, I rate it a couple notches below The Force Awakens but it's still a solid entry in the Star Wars canon.
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Old 12-19-2016, 06:34 PM   #85
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Saw Rogue One at my local AMC IMAX theater 10 am this morning. A lot of people were there for such an early showing. All the 3D trailers and the IMAX 3D intros looked awesome, so I am surprised that no one has complained about a whole lot of crosstalk in this move. Not Stereo D's best work. It did not ruin my enjoyment of the movie. There were some scenes that had no crosstalk, so I don't believe it was the theater's fault.

If anything it has dampened my enthusiasm for the 3D Blu-Ray of this. I will still pick it up. One of the better installments of the series. I would have opted for my RealD 3D theater, just because they have reclining seats.

No changing aspect ratios, by the way.
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Old 12-19-2016, 06:51 PM   #86
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I didn't plan on seeing this in 3D but due to my schedule this weekend a 3D showing was all we could fit in and the 3D was pretty weak. Like others said, the previews for Guardians and Boss Baby seemed to be the standouts as far as 3D trailers shown.

In regards to the movie - I had a busy day and our show time was at 1045pm so I was struggling to stay awake at the end there and the first half does start off a bit slow. My wife and youngest fell asleep so we will probably go see it again next week. Until I see it again I am in the like it but didn't love it camp. But holy crap I could watch that Vader scene at the end a million times and not get sick of it.
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Old 12-19-2016, 07:27 PM   #87
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I am surprised that no one has complained about a whole lot of crosstalk in this move. Not Stereo D's best work. It did not ruin my enjoyment of the movie. There were some scenes that had no crosstalk, so I don't believe it was the theater's fault.
FYI: No crosstalk is ever encoded on a film source unless it is done on purpose. Crosstalk is created during the presentation and depends on the efficiency of the setup, both consumer and theatrical.
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FYI: No crosstalk is ever encoded on a film source unless it is done on purpose. Crosstalk is created during the presentation and depends on the efficiency of the setup, both consumer and theatrical.
There may be rare exceptions like the problematic encode of the Amityville 3D Blu-Ray that my Sony HMZ T1 headset won't even resolve. You are right. Just mentioning my experience and was hoping to see if anyone else experienced this.

Did you see this in IMAX 3D yet, and was your showing crosstalk free?
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Did you see this in IMAX 3D yet, and was your showing crosstalk free?
My Rogue One 3D experience was in a United Artists Cineplex Auditorium and I don't recall any distractive crosstalk. Even remember looking for it at an early point in the movie when a large silver shimmering planet became clear and distinct, the dark-of-space in contrast around it and no artifacts. Have no recollection of any moment that was significant.
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Old 12-19-2016, 11:26 PM   #90
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Saw this in Imax 3D today. Pretty good movie but still prefer TFA so far. 3D was pretty much mild to medium for the dialog scenes and a bit medium to medium-strong for pretty much the rest. The dialog scenes had so much off-focus areas that it hurts the 3D. It didn't matter whether the other person was close or far away, when the camera is focused on that one person, it might as well be 2D. When they get to the action/space scenes, things open up. The cameos were cool but kinda took me out of the movie momentarily.

Had 3 3D trailers

Spiderman- Homecoming
Guardians of the Galaxy(new trailer)
Pirates of the Caribbean

All 3 were awesome, a bit medium-strong to strong. Spiderman and Guardians were my two fav's.

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Old 12-20-2016, 01:40 AM   #91
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Yes, definitely a film made with 2D in mind, with a lot of frame cutting the tops of heads, blurry backgrounds with no layers of interest at times, but then there are the expected shots that work well in 3D no matter what, with plenty of layering, etc.





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Now that i have seen it i would say the 3D is very solid. Can't wait to own this fantastic movie on 3D Blu-Ray.

The 3D was good would give it 3.5/5. The depth is absolutely breathtaking it really is like looking out a Window in the scenes with landscapes, planets, space battle, Ground battles. It stunning. We have objects and people sticking out the screen in most scenes. The movie is never flat. Pop outs is where its really missing something. I think there is 2 or 3 scenes where there is some good pop out effect. Thats to little do my taste. But overall after reading some 3D reviews here on it. I was pleasantly surprised. Its definitely a movie that really comes alive in 3D with how good the depth is on it. Would never watch it in 2D over the 3D.
Cool. Glad you really enjoyed it.
The movie kept getting better IMO.
Jyn Erso (spelling) the hero lady, was decent, though she didn't have any real stand out performance moments IMO, though her actions spoke louder than her words to be fair. Cassian was my favorite hero character, and the villains were fun to watch also. Vader, did not disappoint even though it was brief.

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Saw it last night in real 3D. Awful 3D in the location I saw it in. Story was kind of interesting with how it ties in with the original but somehow was not good overall. Last years starwars was better. I never thought this could happen that I stopped thinking of myself as a Star Wars fan.
Sorry to hear about the 3D location. Was the projector off maybe, dim lighting?

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I don't think the 3D was as strong as Force Awakens but I will need to watch Rogue One again on disc to confirm. The 3D was very nice however and well done throughout. There were plenty of scenes and set pieces and locations that made great use of 3D and the whole movie is visually impressive from start to finish.
[Show spoiler]
As a movie though I was fairly unimpressed, hopefully it'll be a grower. I definitely enjoyed it more than Force Awakens as it doesn't feel like such a rehash/ remake like that movie did. I did think the first two acts were quite dull and the characters throughout were quite dull, a generally good cast wasted on paper thin roles. The third act certainly amps things up a bit although that's when it feels like we're watching a remake of Return of the Jedi or Phantom Menace with a land battle, a space battle and a personal mission all occurring simultaneously. It seems the folk at Lucasfilm/ Disney are really struggling to give us something fresh with these new movies.

With more compelling characters and a tighter story (the movie is too long and takes too long to get to the good stuff) this would have been a much more engaging experience. I'm glad I enjoyed it more than Force Awakens but I feel these Star Wars movies could be a lot more interesting if they just let loose and did something truly fresh and new. Rogue One is probably as good as I could have hoped though considering it's a story where you know the good guys succeed ahead of watching and
[Show spoiler]you probably know they all die ahead of time too, due to not cropping up or being mentioned in a New Hope (apart from a mention that they all die lol).
I'm hopeful that down the line Disney will give us some fresh Star Wars stories rather than just pumping out fan service movies. Of course with a Han Solo and Boba Fett movie on the horizon, it doesn't look like that'll be happening anytime soon lol.

Also whilst they did their best bringing back old characters through CGI I thought they might as well just recast those roles. Seeing as they've re-casted Han Solo and Lando for the Han Solo movie, why not recast for a young Leia or Tarkin? The CG is obviously a long way from being truly convincing so it just becomes distracting
Leia I felt needs better motion capture as she looked animated IMO, though Tarkin, I kept waiting for the "okay, that's CGI" moment but it never happened for me, being a fan of Peter Cushing and his Hammer horror films also. I knew it wasn't him, but it still looked, sounded and moved like him, much like that shot with Michael Douglas' younger self in Ant Man 3D. I'd say this was much more convincing than Jeff Bridges of Tron Legacy 3D for Tarkin anyway. I think the wrinkles played a key role in believability too.

On topic, yes, the 3D could've been pushed more as it was a step down from the impressive VII Awakens 3D which I watched again last night to compare. Rogue One 3D looks much better in the final act though.

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Saw Rogue One at my local AMC IMAX theater 10 am this morning. A lot of people were there for such an early showing. All the 3D trailers and the IMAX 3D intros looked awesome, so I am surprised that no one has complained about a whole lot of crosstalk in this move. Not Stereo D's best work. It did not ruin my enjoyment of the movie. There were some scenes that had no crosstalk, so I don't believe it was the theater's fault.

If anything it has dampened my enthusiasm for the 3D Blu-Ray of this. I will still pick it up. One of the better installments of the series. I would have opted for my RealD 3D theater, just because they have reclining seats.

No changing aspect ratios, by the way.
I noticed a little for the bright lights on a black background, but that was about it. The seating angle players a role also, but so do the 3D glasses inability to block out all light for each eye, resulting in the trio of images, with two ghosts on each side.
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Old 12-20-2016, 03:55 AM   #92
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Pretty good movie, definitely the best prequel we've gotten. Quite liked it. Good 3D, just not as good as the 3D in Force Awakens...still gonna be buying this day one, lol. Definitely worth seeing for those who haven't yet.
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Old 12-20-2016, 04:50 AM   #93
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Saw this in 3D at Cinemark, d/t showtime necessity. Will definitely not be buying the 3D BD, after Civil War I'm done with Disney's milquetoast conversions.
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Sorry for this crappy link but this is the only place I could find this little tidbit.

Advert/sell for the RealD conversion from Gareth Edwards.

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?sto...267285%2F&_rdr

Key line for me was that he said wanted to make it a comfortable experience, which says mild/medium to me. It does however sound like he likes the 3D effect but is more in the 'accentuating what we've already shot' rather than 'designing for 3D' camp.

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Zivouhr,

It was a little dim. More washed out and flat that lost the immersion for me. I took my glasses off a few times to see what was going on.
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Movie was good but certainly not great, liked the story, characters, locations and retro look of certain machines. Unfortunately Rogue One also has the same kind of forced and not so funny humor as can be found in the TFA, the main dealbreaker for me concerning both movies.

3D however was very convincing IMO, some arial shots were amazing and full of depht.
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Zivouhr,

It was a little dim. More washed out and flat that lost the immersion for me. I took my glasses off a few times to see what was going on.
The dimness definitely dilutes the 3D effect, I agree. Sorry to hear about that. I'd say the first half of Rogue One's 3D was a 6 to 7 out of 10 (low medium to medium range 3D layering), and then by the second half on, it was an 8/10 or slightly better at times, but thankfully improved to nearly Force Awakens 3D standards, which looks great in 3D. The film being shot with 2D in mind definitely didn't help sell the 3D effect for that first half in quite a few interior shots with the characters talking. I wish the 3D from start to finish was more consistent though, as with Force Awakens 3D.

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Movie was good but certainly not great, liked the story, characters, locations and retro look of certain machines. Unfortunately Rogue One also has the same kind of forced and not so funny humor as can be found in the TFA, the main dealbreaker for me concerning both movies.

3D however was very convincing IMO, some arial shots were amazing and full of depht.
The 3D got better as it kept going, and I agree, the depth looking into the screen was nice also. Disappointing there weren't more pop outs and particles though. They could've had more water splashing, sparks, debris, etc.
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Liked the movie but I was pretty underwhelmed by the 3D. The only scene that really stood out for me in terms of depth was when they're
[Show spoiler]climbing the central tower in the data center
- it really accentuated the height and danger of the possible fall. Otherwise the conversion was fine technically but the movie really didn't seem like it was shot with 3D in mind.
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Liked the movie but I was pretty underwhelmed by the 3D. The only scene that really stood out for me in terms of depth was when they're
[Show spoiler]climbing the central tower in the data center
- it really accentuated the height and danger of the possible fall. Otherwise the conversion was fine technically but the movie really didn't seem like it was shot with 3D in mind.
Yeah, that was an awesome 3D shot, looking down into the chasm below with strong 3D. Thanks for reminding me of it.
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Scott Wilkinson's "Rogue One" Dolby Vision HDR 3D experience, combines with the prescriptions glasses annoyance of the brighter HDR experience.:
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The big disappointment for me was that Rogue One is being shown in 3D at my local Dolby Cinema. As I’ve written many times before, I hate the type of 3D used in Dolby Cinemas and other theaters that employ 6P laser-illuminated projectors because the reflections between the inner surface of the 3D glasses and the outer surface of my prescription glasses cause ghost images and a milky haze around the screen.

Even worse, 3D doesn’t add much to the experience. Sure, there are a few shots looking down long tunnels and a few things fly toward the audience, but overall, it doesn’t add anything important. Stereo D did the 3D conversion, and I normally like its results, but they were nothing special in this case and certainly not worth the annoyance caused by those glasses.

Perhaps most frustrating, I’ve heard—and I’m waiting for confirmation from AMC—that only the Burbank location is presenting the movie in Dolby 3D; the other Dolby Cinemas around the US are showing it in 2D. (Apparently, the European locations show most Dolby Vision movies, including this one, in 3D.) Had I known that, I probably would have made the trek to the Dolby Cinema at the AMC Century City 15—in fact, I still might do that.

The high dynamic range (HDR) imagery seemed excellent, though it was more difficult to judge with the 3D problems. The shadow detail in dark scenes is much more visible than standard dynamic range (SDR) can manage, and bright scenes are much brighter than they would be with polarized 3D in conventional cinemas—though this also makes the ghosting worse. And like most HDR presentations I’ve seen, the black interstitials—momentary full-black screens between some scenes—were true black, not dark gray as in conventional cinemas.
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