How Good Is The US "Hulk" Blu-Ray?

[GreenScar]

Originally Posted by Monkey_Boy

At this, I suppose I must agree.

I actually wouldn't have a problem if they would have done it the way you had so perfectly worded it. In fact, I thought that's where they were going at first, but when he turned down sex with Betty for fear of changing... I was all, "OH, C'MON!" (To tell you the truth, I woulda risked it. )

I also agree with this. However, his transformations due to anger are what the character is the most popular for, and since they're always trying to make these movies more accessible to a wider audience... But I understand what you're typin'.

I would chime in to say that in TIH (you seem to mainly have a problem with the sex part) in all fairness, this would be his first time since The Hulk was unleashed. Don't you think it makes more sense for a 'better safe than sorry' routine? In the moment he obviously thought better of it. I would go on to say that at the end of the movie when he is trying to trigger the change on his own would be Bruce learning the limitations. I would go on to say that I don't recall a time that Bruce and Betty got intimate with each other except perhaps when Bruce had total control.

Have you watched the new one again yet? Check out the deleted scenes. Some of the features.

Thanks arrow61095 for your well thought out posts. Very good stuff. I had previously tried to explain the same points albeit in a less effective way.

[Monkey_Boy]

Originally Posted by jasonbird

I would chime in to say that in TIH (you seem to mainly have a problem with the sex part)

That's because "the sex part" is what defined his changes. It immediatly went from the theory that arrow61095 typed up and basically said that it was strictly any kinda heartbeats that caused the change. I went in wanting to see anger incarnate and I got a man who would change into a mildly irritated green guy when his heartrate reached 200 bpm (you gotta admit, the "new" Hulk didn't get anywhere near as angry as the "old" one and I think it's mostly because he didn't have to be angry to become The Hulk).

Have you watched the new one again yet? Check out the deleted scenes. Some of the features.

Not yet. It's the Christmas Season, my money has gone to everyone else! I'll get my hands on it soon enough though, and I'll let you know if my feelings have changed upon a second viewing.

I had previously tried to explain the same points albeit in a less effective way.

Oh, you weren't that bad. You got me wanting to re-check out a movie that I was hellbent on leaving on the shelf for quite a long time.

[GreenScar]

Originally Posted by Monkey_Boy

That's because "the sex part" is what defined his changes. It immediatly went from the theory that arrow61095 typed up and basically said that it was strictly any kinda heartbeats that caused the change. I went in wanting to see anger incarnate and I got a man who would change into a mildly irritated green guy when his heartrate reached 200 bpm (you gotta admit, the "new" Hulk didn't get anywhere near as angry as the "old" one and I think it's mostly because he didn't have to be angry to become The Hulk).

I think I'm not making my point correctly. ( ) My point being that it was the unknown that Bruce was afraid of. Yea, they could have done without the watch and been fine (I think it was a tool they thought they needed that they really didn't) but still the fact that maybe he's not entirely sure as of yet just what triggers the change. Look at it from Bruce's point of view, the adrenaline thing makes sense scientifically where solely anger wouldn't (at least to a scientist). Maybe he has his theories on anger, but as a scientist I think he would gravitate towards a more logical/scientific explanation. Going back a bit, I believe in the movie the Hulk had appeared 3 years prior (if I remember correctly) and the movie starts with the last change being approx 5 months prior (I think it was 157 days). So it's safe to say that Bruce is learning about the changes still. Remember he blacks out and the last thing he probably associates with the change at this point is the elevated heart rate. It's logical for him to think the way he does.

You will remember that Anger being the prime reason for his transformation comes from the Television show. The comic was more in line with arrows post. There were times where the Hulk forced his way out (like the alternate opening to TIH and the first transformation in Lee's Hulk). And other times that the Hulk came simply out of necessity (like the Helicopter drop at the end of TIH). Other times the transformation would trigger in moments of the need for heroism (like the one on campus when he wanted to save Betty). While I like the rage aspect, it's not in line with the comics (the sole reason being anger).

I do have a greater appreciation for the first film (you've opened my eyes on what Lee was trying to accomplish). It was more focused on the Hulk being an entirely different entity in Banners subconsciousness. I always liked the storylines that dealt with this. The dream sequences were very good (along with Hulk's disdain for Banner, "Puny Human")