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Old 01-18-2009, 04:31 PM   #1
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OAR is definitely the only acceptable way to present films on video. And this TV will of course have black bars on the sides for 1.85 and 1.33 material.
Yes but it will be the same black bars you see when you go see a 1.85 movie in a cinema. Thus it will feel exactly like at the movies.

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Don't think this is an ideal solution.
Yes I have decided this is an ideal solution !
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Old 01-18-2009, 04:36 PM   #2
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Yes but it will be the same black bars you see when you go see a 1.85 movie in a cinema. Thus it will feel exactly like at the movies.



Yes I have decided this is an ideal solution !
Of course, most 16:9 TVs have a stretch function for 4:3 because so many people would rather watch a distorted image than have black bars on the sides.
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Old 01-18-2009, 04:58 PM   #3
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Of course, most 16:9 TVs have a stretch function for 4:3 because so many people would rather watch a distorted image than have black bars on the sides.
or zoom and cut the top and bottom off to fill the screen (dad) I can stand when he does that...
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Old 01-18-2009, 05:29 PM   #4
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Will the tv have extra pixels for the extra width?
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Old 01-18-2009, 05:33 PM   #5
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What I'm actually the most afraid of is advertisers are going to eventually realize that those black bars are wasted ad space.

At one of the companies I worked for, I was actually asked if it was possible to insert advertising into the black areas created by aspect ratio differences. I told them they'd have to hire a different engineer to write that code.

I won that standoff.

But it's only a matter of time.

If the public is willing to tolerate having ads in those black bars, they're going to be there. And then you're going to rue the day someone thought up BDLive.

It's very important that if any company ever does this... even a little, it needs to be boycotted. Completely and immediately. As an example to the others. That's the only way your black bars won't eventually turn into ad bars.
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Old 01-18-2009, 11:42 PM   #6
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the day the black bars turn into ad bars will be the day I will quit video in general, I can only take so much.
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Old 01-19-2009, 07:35 PM   #7
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the day the black bars turn into ad bars will be the day I will quit video in general, I can only take so much.
You hypocrit. You'll bend over and take it just like everyone else does when Batman 12 or whatever comes out and you JUST HAVE TO SEE IT!
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What I'm actually the most afraid of is advertisers are going to eventually realize that those black bars are wasted ad space.

At one of the companies I worked for, I was actually asked if it was possible to insert advertising into the black areas created by aspect ratio differences. I told them they'd have to hire a different engineer to write that code.

I won that standoff.

But it's only a matter of time.

If the public is willing to tolerate having ads in those black bars, they're going to be there. And then you're going to rue the day someone thought up BDLive.

It's very important that if any company ever does this... even a little, it needs to be boycotted. Completely and immediately. As an example to the others. That's the only way your black bars won't eventually turn into ad bars.

They don't need black bars to do that. Watching network tv, TBS, NBC, CBS, ABS - all have their stupid logos and all have reminders about upcoming shows on the left bottom side along with wonderful animated pictures and other crap that pops up and comes on all while you are trying to watch the currently running show.

And they wonder why their ratings are suffering.
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Of course, most 16:9 TVs have a stretch function for 4:3 because so many people would rather watch a distorted image than have black bars on the sides.
You mean like in the Event Horizon and The Truman Show Blu-rays where they encode it with a distorted picture?

The stretch function could be for when a broadcast signal is sent but the aspect ratio flag isn't sent or received correctly (or you timeshift a recording but the flag isn't recorded properly/at all).

Wouldn't a Blu-ray with independent stretching modes (X & Y axis) be useful for discs like The Truman Show where they've been encoded incorrectly, or would you just watch it how it was encoded - distorted - even though that wasn't what the director intended?

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You mean like in the Event Horizon and The Truman Show Blu-rays where they encode it with a distorted picture?

The stretch function could be for when a broadcast signal is sent but the aspect ratio flag isn't sent or received correctly (or you timeshift a recording but the flag isn't recorded properly/at all).

Wouldn't a Blu-ray with independent stretching modes (X & Y axis) be useful for discs like The Truman Show where they've been encoded incorrectly, or would you just watch it how it was encoded - distorted - even though that wasn't what the director intended?
Actually, I'd rather the studios put out non-defective products.
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Actually, I'd rather the studios put out non-defective products.
... at a more affordable price.

The time and money wasted on tech like this could just as well be put into researching more cost effective ways of getting 16:9 sets into as many homes as possible, sooner rather than later.

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Old 01-20-2009, 06:27 AM   #12
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It's cool how with a TV this wide, you can watch video at virtually any AR at a constant hight. Like others have mentioned, it means that widerscreen is actually WIDER and WIDER instead of wider and smaller.

Aside from the burn-in problem with the black pillarboxes, a TV at this ratio is impractical unless you are only watching movies. The great thing about the 16:9 ratio is that it's kind of in the middle of all the ARs that are currently in use... plus it's generally the new 'standard' AR.
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I would love 2:40:1 TV but what will suck is that all the 2:40:1 movies will still have black bars top and bottom because the 2:40:1 movies arn't animorphically enhanced for the wider screen. 2:40:1 movies need to be animporphically enhanced!
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