Disney Classics Screenshot Comparisons

[flashpulse]

Originally Posted by Galactus123

I was thinking about buying the blu-ray at some point but good that I saw this.

The 35mm is actually more accurate in color for its time. Disney is now altering the color by trying to make their films more vibrant. I prefer the original myself. It's hideous that they are removing detail. I would like to see a true 1080p/blu-ray scan of these films with no alteration. That would be awesome.

[miniroll32]

Don't know if this has been discussed anywhere, but Disney+ has non-DNR versions of Robin Hood and The Sword in the Stone.

[jolennon]

Originally Posted by miniroll32

Don't know if this has been discussed anywhere, but Disney+ has non-DNR versions of Robin Hood and The Sword in the Stone.

Didn't know about Robin Hood. Do you know where I could find screenshots for comparison or a sample clip?

[MattDean]

Originally Posted by miniroll32

Don't know if this has been discussed anywhere, but Disney+ has non-DNR versions of Robin Hood and The Sword in the Stone.

If you’re talking about the films on Disney+ UK, SITS is the non-DNR version and looks great - but RH is DNR’d. I think RH may be the same version that’s on blu.

[miniroll32]

Originally Posted by MattDean

If you’re talking about the films on Disney+ UK, SITS is the non-DNR version and looks great - but RH is DNR’d. I think RH may be the same version that’s on blu.

Not what I'm seeing. RH on Disney+ is an entirely differently transfer to the Blu-Ray.

It looks like a true restoration; grain is intact, photography artefacts left in, colours true to the cel setup.

[Farerb]

Originally Posted by miniroll32

Not what I'm seeing. RH on Disney+ is an entirely differently transfer to the Blu-Ray.

It looks like a true restoration; grain is intact, photography artefacts left in, colours true to the cel setup.

Why would they do this to Robin Hood and not Cinderella?

[Det. Bullock]

Originally Posted by farerb

Why would they do this to Robin Hood and not Cinderella?

My guess is that Robin Hood was probably just scanned and put through standard DNR for the Blu Ray while Cinderella had undergone the full digital "dissassemble and rebuild" degraining and color boosting procedure way before it was put on blu ray.

[miniroll32]

Originally Posted by miniroll32

Don't know if this has been discussed anywhere, but Disney+ has non-DNR versions of Robin Hood and The Sword in the Stone.

Just an update for those unaware - Robin Hood on Disney+ is now the DNR version Sword in The Stone is still the non-DNR version.

[gwfb5]

Originally Posted by miniroll32

Just an update for those unaware - Robin Hood on Disney+ is now the DNR version Sword in The Stone is still the non-DNR version.

Was there a non-DNR HD version of Robin Hood on there before?
If so, I wasn't aware of that.

Side note, last I checked, Cinderella is still the old DNR-mess on Disney+, but most if not all other digital platforms have new restoration.
Vudu, iTunes, and Google Play at the very least.

Update: Disney+ now has the new 4K restoration for Cinderella, but it's seems to only be in HD for some reason.

[miniroll32]

Originally Posted by gwfb5

Was there a non-DNR HD version of Robin Hood on there before?
If so, I wasn't aware of that.

Side note, last I checked, Cinderella is still the old DNR-mess on Disney+, but most if not all other digital platforms have new restoration.
Vudu, iTunes, and Google Play at the very least.

Update: Disney+ now has the new 4K restoration for Cinderella, but it's seems to only be in HD for some reason.

Yeah, the version of RH before was the same as that from the DVD (Special Edition I think, from years ago).

Just watching Cinderella on Disney+ now... WOW. What a difference! It actually looks like film haha.

[WBMakeVMarsMovieNOW]

Originally Posted by flashpulse

The 35mm is actually more accurate in color for its time. Disney is now altering the color by trying to make their films more vibrant. I prefer the original myself. It's hideous that they are removing detail. I would like to see a true 1080p/blu-ray scan of these films with no alteration. That would be awesome.

I would be wary of going by some of the scans on originaltrilogy when judging colors. Many there are totally messing up the scan colors. I think they are maybe treating some very much non-sRGB colorspace as if it were sRGB/REC709 gamut or something.

I have some 35mm of certain things I've seen posted there and the colors on my 35mm are WAY, WAY more rich and vibrant than on many of the 35mm scans there of Disney stuff. For The Little Mermaid most of all. It's 1000x more vibrant than they show for their 35mm scans.

And for some older Disney stuff some of the old 35mm prints are simply, poor faded, old copy of copy of copy and while looking somewhat dull that might not be representative of how the better prints they made for original release looked.

The removing detail stuff for say Cinderella is real though and a pretty horrendous remastering job.

[Warstorck]

Originally Posted by WBMakeVMarsMovieNOW

I would be wary of going by some of the scans on originaltrilogy when judging colors. Many there are totally messing up the scan colors. I think they are maybe treating some very much non-sRGB colorspace as if it were sRGB/REC709 gamut or something.

I have some 35mm of certain things I've seen posted there and the colors on my 35mm are WAY, WAY more rich and vibrant than on many of the 35mm scans there of Disney stuff. For The Little Mermaid most of all. It's 1000x more vibrant than they show for their 35mm scans.

And for some older Disney stuff some of the old 35mm prints are simply, poor faded, old copy of copy of copy and while looking somewhat dull that might not be representative of how the better prints they made for original release looked.

The removing detail stuff for say Cinderella is real though and a pretty horrendous remastering job.

There was a V2 released of the little Mermaid scan about a month ago that has way better color.

[Rogue Deputy]

Originally Posted by Warstorck

There was a V2 released of the little Mermaid scan about a month ago that has way better color.

Would you mind PMing me about this version of The Little Mermaid? I'd love to check it out if possible.