The Anime Blu-ray Video Quality Thread - Page 165 - Blu-ray Forum

chronoclast · 03-05-2019, 07:44 PM

So Funimation's BDs for Orange have a lot of banding as usual for them. In most of the episodes, the banding is typically moderate but in episode 12, I think due to it having a lower contrast than the other episodes, it is really bad with heavy banding in like nearly every scene. I wish I was able to take screenshots to show just how bad it is.

NLScavenger · 03-05-2019, 08:07 PM

Mawaru Penguindrum - Siren Visual BD

Screenshots

Used madvr for the screenshots because of its deinterlacing abilities. Tried the IVTC filter in Virtualdub2, but the filter is quite frankly terrible:

If you thought of buying the Siren Visual BD, good luck. It's OOP and hard to find now.

- Bitrate viewer reports -
Episode #1

AVG: 31994 kbps | MAX: 44149 kbps

Episode #2

AVG: 30085 kbps | MAX: 42584 kbps

Episode #3

AVG: 21995 kbps | MAX: 39648 kbps

BDinfo report:

[Show spoiler]

professorwho · 03-05-2019, 08:15 PM

That bitrate... why they didn’t encode the other episodes on the disc at 30 mbps is beyond me...

Also, it’s odd that the dub is lossy Dolby Digital. Not that it matters, but it’s a weird choice.

Jeo · 03-05-2019, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by pikagreg

I assume Kino's Journey probably had the same issues?

I'd also be interested in how the Kino's Journey SDBD turned out. I have the ADV DVD set, but I'd upgrade if it was worth it.

Mangaranga · 03-06-2019, 01:40 PM

Liz & Bluebird

JPN BD

US BD

I haven't watched this movie yet personally, but from flicking through quickly they both appear to be pretty much identical (Ignore the ever so slight foreground difference in picture 2 as MPC captured the wrong frame). There was one exception where the US BD held up a bit better though (picture 4), and the US BD also has a few more pixels on the top of the image for what it's worth. Audio wise it's dual DTS HD-MA 5.1 tracks with three subtitle tracks - Hard of Hearing, Full subtitles and Signs only. The intro and ending credits are also in English, although neither of the ED songs have been subtitled. Strange considering one of them is Engrish and actually has English subtitles on the Japanese BD's JP track.

JP BD 1 2 3 4
US BD 1 2 3 4

Lastly, I don't know if Shout usually credits the encoders of their discs, but the back of the box lists a Brian Ward as the BD/DVD Producer. I don't own any of their other releases so I don't know if this is something they normally do.

NLScavenger · 03-06-2019, 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mangaranga

Lastly, I don't know if Shout usually credits the encoders of their discs, but the back of the box lists a Brian Ward as the BD/DVD Producer. I don't own any of their other releases so I don't know if this is something they normally do.

They usually do list the producer and for the record producer =/= compression/authoring.

Dragon Ranger · 03-06-2019, 02:21 PM

Hello; I have a query about a Legends of the Galactic Heroes live action DVD but not sure which thread to post in. Can someone please point me in the right direction?

professorwho · 03-06-2019, 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dragon Ranger

Hello; I have a query about a Legends of the Galactic Heroes live action DVD but not sure which thread to post in. Can someone please point me in the right direction?

In the LOTGH thread. If you look a bit, I’m sure you’ll find it.

Dragon Ranger · 03-06-2019, 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by professorwho

In the LOTGH thread. If you look a bit, I’m sure you’ll find it.

Found it eventually; thanks

Robbl · 03-06-2019, 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mangaranga

Liz & Bluebird
I haven't watched this movie yet personally, but from flicking through quickly they both appear to be pretty much identical (Ignore the ever so slight foreground difference in picture 2 as MPC captured the wrong frame). There was one exception where the US BD held up a bit better though (picture 4), and the US BD also has a few more pixels on the top of the image for what it's worth. Audio wise it's dual DTS HD-MA 5.1 tracks with three subtitle tracks - Hard of Hearing, Full subtitles and Signs only. The intro and ending credits are also in English, although neither of the ED songs have been subtitled. Strange considering one of them is Engrish and actually has English subtitles on the Japanese BD's JP track.

Lastly, I don't know if Shout usually credits the encoders of their discs, but the back of the box lists a Brian Ward as the BD/DVD Producer. I don't own any of their other releases so I don't know if this is something they normally do.

Cmon now, it's not that hard. https://slowpics.org/comparison/6029...8-b9c2551033b6

Nostalgic Twilight · 03-06-2019, 07:04 PM

I decided to put my new BD drive to use and take some screenshots of my Japanese BD of Wicked City. The comparisons are matched with the old Urban Vision DVD because I don't own Discotek's.

Here is the bitrate viewer scan:

The screenshot comparisons:

Shot 1
Shot 2
Shot 3
Shot 4
Shot 5

And finally, here is an Imgur album of the BD screenshots.

NLScavenger · 03-06-2019, 07:23 PM

The imgur album has lossy jpeg screenshots. There is (or was) an option to disable auto png to jpeg conversion somewhere for png under 5mb, but I can't find it.

And that's a bitrate viewer scan, not BDinfo.

Nostalgic Twilight · 03-06-2019, 07:29 PM

Fixed the software name. Also, I didn’t see an option to store them as .PNG files when I uploaded them and just assumed they wouldn’t be compressed. Maybe because I don’t have an account? Oh well, I have the .PNG files if anyone would like to host them.

professorwho · 03-06-2019, 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nostalgic Twilight

Fixed the software name. Also, I didn’t see an option to store them as .PNG files when I uploaded them and just assumed they wouldn’t be compressed. Maybe because I don’t have an account?

I have an account and mine are PNG. Don’t know if that’s why, though.

Nostalgic Twilight · 03-06-2019, 07:39 PM

Created an account and made a new album. It looks good now...

...except the page appears broken whenever I try to link to it.

EDIT: Well, I just had to link to my profile directly to access the images. Whatever works.

NLScavenger · 03-06-2019, 08:26 PM

Still not seeing the pics. Alternatively, use imgbox, ImgBB or postimg instead for screenshots.

Nostalgic Twilight · 03-06-2019, 08:33 PM

You should be good now. My guess is the album was too fresh earlier.

kk1 · 03-06-2019, 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nostalgic Twilight

I decided to put my new BD drive to use and take some screenshots of my Japanese BD of Wicked City. The comparisons are matched with the old Urban Vision DVD because I don't own Discotek's.

The screenshot comparisons:

Shot 1
Shot 2
Shot 3
Shot 4
Shot 5

Wow are the colors really that far off on the UV disc for shots 1 and 5? I can see the skin tones changing a little but not going from peach to gray

Nostalgic Twilight · 03-06-2019, 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kk1

Wow are the colors really that far off on the UV disc for shots 1 and 5? I can see the skin tones changing a little but not going from peach to gray

Yeah, that last one especially got me. Pretty crazy. However, that disc is so old that who knows what kind of master they were working with.

kk1 · 03-06-2019, 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nostalgic Twilight

Yeah, that last one especially got me. Pretty crazy. However, that disc is so old that who knows what kind of master they were working with.

Yeah the way the Japanese don't take care of older shows, I almost feel like getting the R2 Japanese DVDs of shows since at least they were made before they let the material deteriorate.

03-05-2019, 07:44 PM	#3281
chronoclast Special Member Top contributor Member since:Feb 2009 Trading Score:1	So Funimation's BDs for Orange have a lot of banding as usual for them. In most of the episodes, the banding is typically moderate but in episode 12, I think due to it having a lower contrast than the other episodes, it is really bad with heavy banding in like nearly every scene. I wish I was able to take screenshots to show just how bad it is. Last edited by chronoclast; 03-05-2019 at 09:09 PM.

03-06-2019, 01:40 PM	#3285
Mangaranga Senior Member Member since:Oct 2014	Liz & Bluebird JPN BD US BD I haven't watched this movie yet personally, but from flicking through quickly they both appear to be pretty much identical (Ignore the ever so slight foreground difference in picture 2 as MPC captured the wrong frame). There was one exception where the US BD held up a bit better though (picture 4), and the US BD also has a few more pixels on the top of the image for what it's worth. Audio wise it's dual DTS HD-MA 5.1 tracks with three subtitle tracks - Hard of Hearing, Full subtitles and Signs only. The intro and ending credits are also in English, although neither of the ED songs have been subtitled. Strange considering one of them is Engrish and actually has English subtitles on the Japanese BD's JP track. JP BD 1 2 3 4 US BD 1 2 3 4 Lastly, I don't know if Shout usually credits the encoders of their discs, but the back of the box lists a Brian Ward as the BD/DVD Producer. I don't own any of their other releases so I don't know if this is something they normally do. Last edited by Mangaranga; 03-06-2019 at 01:52 PM.

03-06-2019, 07:04 PM	#3291
Nostalgic Twilight Blu-ray Guru Member since:Jan 2015 Location:USA Blu-ray collection:436 DVD collection:390 Trading Score:20	I decided to put my new BD drive to use and take some screenshots of my Japanese BD of Wicked City. The comparisons are matched with the old Urban Vision DVD because I don't own Discotek's. Here is the bitrate viewer scan: The screenshot comparisons: Shot 1 Shot 2 Shot 3 Shot 4 Shot 5 And finally, here is an Imgur album of the BD screenshots. Last edited by Nostalgic Twilight; 03-06-2019 at 08:32 PM.

03-06-2019, 07:39 PM	#3295
Nostalgic Twilight Blu-ray Guru Member since:Jan 2015 Location:USA Blu-ray collection:436 DVD collection:390 Trading Score:20	Created an account and made a new album. It looks good now... ...except the page appears broken whenever I try to link to it. EDIT: Well, I just had to link to my profile directly to access the images. Whatever works. Last edited by Nostalgic Twilight; 03-06-2019 at 07:55 PM.

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03-05-2019, 08:15 PM	#3283
professorwho Blu-ray Champion Top contributor Member since:Apr 2017 4K collection:229 Blu-ray collection:982 Blu-ray reviews: 64 Trading Score:7	That bitrate... why they didn’t encode the other episodes on the disc at 30 mbps is beyond me... Also, it’s odd that the dub is lossy Dolby Digital. Not that it matters, but it’s a weird choice.

03-06-2019, 02:21 PM	#3287
Dragon Ranger Blu-ray Guru Member since:Jan 2015 Blu-ray collection:258 DVD collection:85	Hello; I have a query about a Legends of the Galactic Heroes live action DVD but not sure which thread to post in. Can someone please point me in the right direction?

03-06-2019, 07:23 PM	#3292
NLScavenger Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Dec 2013 Location:Netherlands 4K collection:20 Blu-ray collection:831 Trading Score:9	The imgur album has lossy jpeg screenshots. There is (or was) an option to disable auto png to jpeg conversion somewhere for png under 5mb, but I can't find it. And that's a bitrate viewer scan, not BDinfo.

03-06-2019, 07:29 PM	#3293
Nostalgic Twilight Blu-ray Guru Member since:Jan 2015 Location:USA Blu-ray collection:436 DVD collection:390 Trading Score:20	Fixed the software name. Also, I didn’t see an option to store them as .PNG files when I uploaded them and just assumed they wouldn’t be compressed. Maybe because I don’t have an account? Oh well, I have the .PNG files if anyone would like to host them.

03-06-2019, 08:26 PM	#3296
NLScavenger Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Dec 2013 Location:Netherlands 4K collection:20 Blu-ray collection:831 Trading Score:9	Still not seeing the pics. Alternatively, use imgbox, ImgBB or postimg instead for screenshots.

03-06-2019, 08:33 PM	#3297
Nostalgic Twilight Blu-ray Guru Member since:Jan 2015 Location:USA Blu-ray collection:436 DVD collection:390 Trading Score:20	You should be good now. My guess is the album was too fresh earlier.

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