Police Officer with no heart!

[jkwest]

Oh...my...

I just reread it and saw that she died.....

I didn't see that before...that POS needs to lose his badge for a few months....

[Marine Mike]

Originally Posted by jkwest

Oh...my...

I just reread it and saw that she died.....

I didn't see that before...that POS needs to lose his badge for a few months....

I agree that there should be punishment involved as well for the police officer. My only point is that the Moats could of handled the situation differently to yield different results.

[Teabaggins]

Originally Posted by jkwest

Oh...my...

I just reread it and saw that she died.....

I didn't see that before...that POS needs to lose his badge for a few months....

I agree what he did was totally wrong etc but technically, did he do anything illegal to warrant a suspension?

[Another_Dude]

Originally Posted by Teabaggins

I agree what he did was totally wrong etc but technically, did he do anything illegal to warrant a suspension?

Generally, if your actions get your name, your department's name, and a quote from the Chief read by folks from another state (and not for doing something really good), then its time to make sure your union dues are paid up.

The fact that the ticket/no ticket decision was emotional rather than logical, and the officer used the "I could screw you" line tells me that he needs to be asking his future customers if they would like upsize their value meals for a dollar more.

Stopping the car was business but the delay, attitude, and language were punative. It is the court's job to decide guilt and punish, not the officer's. There is no place for this man in law enforcement.

[Mr. J]

That is F'd up! Some people in here are just making excuses for this cop! He may not have done anything to warrant beign fired, but anyone can tell he was being an ASS! Common Sense People!

[Chordata]

Originally Posted by jayvo2008

That is F'd up! Some people in here are just making excuses for this cop! He may not have done anything to warrant beign fired, but anyone can tell he was being an ASS! Common Sense People!

Who is making excuses for him????

To a man, everyone agrees he acted like a jerk. BUT, he was completely justified in pulling over Moats to begin with (and frankly for giving a ticket).

[Mr. J]

Originally Posted by O_V_N

Who is making excuses for him????

To a man, everyone agrees he acted like a jerk. BUT, he was completely justified in pulling over Moats to begin with (and frankly for giving a ticket).

oopps guess I took things the wrong way! My bad !

[DeeChizzle]

Both sides we're wrong in this situation. The cop could've handled the situation a lot better by verifying their story and then letting them off with a verbal warning so that they could be with their mother.

The women should not have exited the vehicle and attempted to enter the hospital without first giving the officer a chance to verify the situation after he pulled them over.

Moats became agitated with the officer which in turn made the officer agitated and yes the officer was out of line but there were moments that Moats was out of line as well.

As urgent as the situation was had everyone remained in the vehicle and then calmly told the officer what the situation was this might've been resolved a lot sooner.

A lot of you might disagree with me but let's for a moment assume that Moats didn't run the redlight down the street from the hospital but instead ran a redlight a few miles from the hospital? If they approached this situation in the same manner this might've gotten a lot more out of hand.

[Beefbowl]

Originally Posted by DeeChizzle

Both sides we're wrong in this situation. The cop could've handled the situation a lot better by verifying their story and then letting them off with a verbal warning so that they could be with their mother.

The women should not have exited the vehicle and attempted to enter the hospital without first giving the officer a chance to verify the situation after he pulled them over.

Moats became agitated with the officer which in turn made the officer agitated and yes the officer was out of line but there were moments that Moats was out of line as well.

As urgent as the situation was had everyone remained in the vehicle and then calmly told the officer what the situation was this might've been resolved a lot sooner.

A lot of you might disagree with me but let's for a moment assume that Moats didn't run the redlight down the street from the hospital but instead ran a redlight a few miles from the hospital? If they approached this situation in the same manner this might've gotten a lot more out of hand.

This would be easy to do if everyone was calm and thinking straight, but somebody was dying in a matter of minutes and when every seconds counts, I don't think ANYBODY would have remained in the car and wait for the cop.

[Another_Dude]

Thinking more about the situation, I would have tried to remain as calm as possible during the "business" portion of the traffic stop. With that being said, once it became clear that the cop was making it personal with his comments about screwing me and intentionally stretching out the clock things would have gotten very bad.

I've already got him on dashcam throwing his attitude around and the jury knows that I've tried several times to end the encounter and get to my urgent business in the hospital.

After the hospital staff has notified the cop of the situation and the cop has made his unprofessional comments I would have a hard time finding the player guilty had he just knocked the snot out of the cop.

The thing about putting people into desperate situations when it isn't necessary is that sometimes they take desperate actions. This is why you rarely see veteran officers on these tapes. They have learned that doing dumb things to inflate their ego rarely makes for better careers. Some of the younger guys haven't learned that, so we see them online and on the news.

[DeeChizzle]

Originally Posted by Beefbowl

This would be easy to do if everyone was calm and thinking straight, but somebody was dying in a matter of minutes and when every seconds counts, I don't think ANYBODY would have remained in the car and wait for the cop.

Everyone reacts differently to situations like this, but yeah you can argue that most people would've probably reacted in the same manner but I'm sure there are levelheaded people out there who would've approached the situation in a more calm manner.

My aunt passed away from cancer 5 years ago and as fast as my family wanted to get to the hospital to be with her in her last minutes, my dad didn't run any redlights to get there. Not saying Moats was wrong in this situation but he made a split second judgement in which he thought he was morally right for running that redlight. Unfortunately there happened to be a dxxkhead cop who was in the right place at the right time, or wrong place at the wrong time...depends on one's perspective of the situation.

[Uniquely]

Originally Posted by Teabaggins

I agree what he did was totally wrong etc but technically, did he do anything illegal to warrant a suspension?

In your job.... do you have to do something illegal to warrant a suspension? Or just break company policy or behave unprofessionally? Just sayin.

[Teabaggins]

Originally Posted by robinandtami

In your job.... do you have to do something illegal to warrant a suspension? Or just break company policy or behave unprofessionally? Just sayin.

I act in an unprofessional manner all the time and my boss headbutted me once....but I see your point.

[Marine Mike]

Originally Posted by Teabaggins

I agree what he did was totally wrong etc but technically, did he do anything illegal to warrant a suspension?

I know that in the Marine Corps you can get a Non-Judicial Punishment (NJP) for behavior that is unbecoming of a Marine. This includes anything that could be considered 'Non-Marine type behavior'.

I imagine that Police Officers have similar ethical guidelines in place.