Do the Right Thing 4K UHD (1989)

[Filmmaker]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

I sold TVs for many years and this is the #1 assumption that people have. This was back in the HD age but the exact same thing applies to 4K. I'm not knocking them, I'm not belittling them, they just don't know any different and are perfickly happy with what they have. And yesh, this is also why streaming has taken over.

What I can’t fathom is how even the most ignorant among them can’t see the clear difference between, say, streaming THE OFFICE and watching its comparatively dull and murky DVDs. Even if they’re not A/B-ing movies, I would think watching streaming shows all the time, then throwing in the occasional DVD and watching everything look like the life has been sucked out of it, would start the masses wondering, but no. Somehow, maddeningly, impossibly, they just don’t connect the dots.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by Filmmaker

What I can’t fathom is how even the most ignorant among them can’t see the clear difference between, say, streaming THE OFFICE and watching its comparatively dull and murky DVDs. Even if they’re not A/B-ing movies, I would think watching streaming shows all the time, then throwing in the occasional DVD and watching everything look like the life has been sucked out of it, would start the masses wondering, but no. Somehow, maddeningly, impossibly, they just don’t connect the dots.

People just have different priorities, they simply want to watch whatever it is and don't give a fook about the quality of it, or should I say don't pay attention like we do. It's all vastly disposable to them, something to veg out with at the end of a day rather than pay attention to.

[Filmmaker]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

People just have different priorities, they simply want to watch whatever it is and don't give a fook about the quality of it, or should I say don't pay attention like we do. It's all vastly disposable to them, something to veg out with at the end of a day rather than pay attention to.

But you said their assumption is that their TV magically makes everything 4K. Now you’re saying they don’t even care if things are in 4K or what that even really means. It can’t be both. Despite the fact that the evidence to the contrary is right in front of their faces, I still think it’s the former. It’s some kind of placebo effect where they perceive DVD to look better in their minds’ eyes because their TV is supposed to be a magic wand.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by Filmmaker

But you said their assumption is that their TV magically makes everything 4K. Now you’re saying they don’t even care if things are in 4K or what that even really means. It can’t be both. Despite the fact that the evidence to the contrary is right in front of their faces, I still think it’s the former. It’s some kind of placebo effect where they perceive DVD to look better in their minds’ eyes because their TV is supposed to be a magic wand.

It's amazing what people can convince themselves of is the point. If they think they're getting HD or 4K then it means they don't have to pay it any more attention than that because they don't know any different. People like to have all the buzz words lined up when they buy TVs, hence these "veg out" types having 4K TVs in the first place, but they literally don't have a clue what it is they're buying.

I've said this before but the first two questions people used to aks were "is this a smart TV?" and then "what is a smart TV?", i.e. they had no idea what it was but they knew they had to have it, same goes for 4K. That's what we're up against, and have been for decades; people who actually care about video quality are few and far between. And again, I can't blame or shame the regulars because they'll have other things that interest them.

[Scottishguy]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

People just have different priorities, they simply want to watch whatever it is and don't give a fook about the quality of it, or should I say don't pay attention like we do. It's all vastly disposable to them, something to veg out with at the end of a day rather than pay attention to.

See I'd accept that conclusion, if it wasn't for back in ye old 20th century that significantly more people did give time and money towards quality concerning music and films. Who I'm sure also had far more pressing priorities.

No it seems to me this is all symptomatic of a culture of mediocrity, that vaules stuff based on it's convince.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by Scottishguy

See I'd accept that conclusion, if it wasn't for back in ye old 20th century that significantly more people did give time and money towards quality concerning music and films. Who I'm sure also had far more pressing priorities.

No it seems to me this is all symptomatic of a culture of mediocrity, that vaules stuff based on it's convince.

Did they tho? VHS was the predominant home video format in the late 20th century and its quality was shite, people spent as much time/money as they did on it because there were no alternatives. And by "people" I mean the sort of people I was describing above, not us video junkies who were well into Laserdisc by that point, which incidentally was a lame duck in the UK because said people didn't give a fook. I'm still amazed, literally amazed, that DVD took off over here as it did.

But as consuming movies has become ever more ephemeral it just plays into that "film nerd" stereotype if people actually, like, buy them and stuff. They really do have better things to be doing than owning a shelf full of movies, buying a great TV to play them on and yakking about them on forums. That's just how it is.

[Scottishguy]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Did they tho? VHS was the predominant home video format in the late 20th century and its quality was shite, people spent as much time/money as they did on it because there were no alternatives. And by "people" I mean the sort of people I was describing above, not us video junkies who were well into Laserdisc by that point, which incidentally was a lame duck in the UK because said people didn't give a fook. I'm still amazed, literally amazed, that DVD took off over here as it did.

But as consuming movies has become ever more ephemeral it just plays into that "film nerd" stereotype if people actually, like, buy them and stuff. They really do have better things to be doing than owning a shelf full of movies, buying a great TV to play them on and yakking about them on forums. That's just how it is.

Correct. But they still spent time and money on it, and CD players ect. I'd also like to hear you expand on your amazement of DvDs adoption?

Back to the yak

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[Nothing371]

Originally Posted by Filmmaker

What I can’t fathom is how even the most ignorant among them can’t see the clear difference between, say, streaming THE OFFICE and watching its comparatively dull and murky DVDs. Even if they’re not A/B-ing movies, I would think watching streaming shows all the time, then throwing in the occasional DVD and watching everything look like the life has been sucked out of it, would start the masses wondering, but no. Somehow, maddeningly, impossibly, they just don’t connect the dots.

I don't find much of anything surprising any longer once I learned about the places where so many people get their news these days. In the 'information age', the world is whatever you believe it is. Which makes the designation kind of ironic, don't you think?