Star Trek The Motion Picture Director's Edition 4K UHD/DLX (1979)

[kenkraly2004]

My take away from this whole thing over the shots from the 2021 4K UHD of the TMP Theatrical Cut is those shots of the Enpterprise leaving drydock should of never been missed with and did not need fixing. Where as you look at those same shots in the 2022 version of The Directors Edition of TMP those same shots look so clear. Also the thing about Grain Management / Frozen Grain different studios handle grain different and when too much is removed a lot overreact and say old it's a DNR mess. Or if the color timming is off for different movies. But the reason for that sometimes is because I feel the original director and or cinematographer are in some cases not around anymore to consult on said transfers they know the film better than anyone. But no the studios put people in charge sometimes of these transfers who know nothing about the film at all and are like lets make everything blue , teal and orange on catalog titles when the film was not shot or photographed that way to begin with.

[chip75]

Any chance they'll do some tweaking before the physical release? we can hope that they were really under the gun for the digital release, but as they can be updated easily they may have seen the disc as their endgame.

[Indiana Jones]

Originally Posted by chip75

Any chance they'll do some tweaking before the physical release? we can hope that they were really under the gun for the digital release, but as they can be updated easily they may have seen the disc as their endgame.

Not impossible as they have already said the subtitles will be corrected for the UHD release but I am not holding out much hope for them fixing stuff like the lounge scene.

[david_blu]

Is there a video of 2022 DC, 4K 2021 and 09 Blu of the E leaving drydock. At this point I wonder if the 2021 4K actually comes in third?

[JohnCarpenterLives]

Originally Posted by david_blu

Is there a video of 2022 DC, 4K 2021 and 09 Blu of the E leaving drydock. At this point I wonder if the 2021 4K actually comes in third?

There's no way the '09 blu or '21 uhd beats the DE. Zero chance. I think the only debate is between the former two, and I personally would give it to the '09 bluray.

Originally Posted by hatter76

It was acknowledged yesterday that the Lounge scene is being looked into

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[Jeyl]

Originally Posted by Bolty

I found a second problem that I haven't seen anybody mention involving the lounge of all things! LOL.
They decided to show the impulse engine orange glow on the front of the nacelles in the POV shot from inside the officers Lounge when Spock's shuttle is docking with the Enterprise. Pretty cool. I thought it was a nice touch. Except in the opposite point of view shot as the shuttle is approaching the Enterprise from the back the impulse engines are not turned on. Maybe I'm mistaking something here and the glow is coming from somewhere else. But I can't imagine what else is throwing an orange glow on to the nacelles.

The reflection is coming from the windows, not the necelles. The orange glow is coming from the orange seats inside the lounge at the very bottom of the screen. You can see them for a whole second before they're out of frame.

[Jeyl]

Originally Posted by hatter76

in a Private Facebook Group. so I can't exactly post a link, but it's legit

I would share a screenshot, but I don't want to be an Azzho. if it had been Said in a Public group, that be a different story.

Would it happen to be the 'Star Trek: The Motion Picture Appreciation Group'?

[JohnCarpenterLives]

Originally Posted by hatter76

errrrr, No Comment

"'No comment' is a comment." - George Carlin

Do they have any comments about the glittery titles?

[batman2000]

Originally Posted by hatter76

If you can find this post, and want to read through the comments, there is a response to it made by a very big name

[Show spoiler]Attachment 274936

Great tried to find this post can’t find it.

[BillieCassin]

Why are we being so cagey here? If someone said it on the internet, it's public knowledge, LOL. There really is no such thing as a "private" Facebook group, just Facebook groups with limited settings they call "private"...

[LexInHD]

I couldn't find it. I know there was a version of that shot done by one of the DE folks and shown off by him after the first edition was completed and I can't say I remember it exactly, but I do think it looked similar to what was presented there.

[Jeyl]

So I did something I wasn't expecting myself to do after all of this. I took out my 2009 Blu-ray of TMP and watched it to see how bad it looked in comparison. While the DNR is an ugly bugger that should never be trusted, I started to notice a few things that felt... off. Not for the Theatrical version, but for the recent Director's Edition. The color timing in a lot of areas looks pretty bad. I had to capture some of it in order to convey what I was seeing.

SHOT ORDER
1. Bolt approaches Klingon Cruiser (1 Frame)
2. Klingon Cruiser is hit and starts to be engulfed (2 frames)
3. Klingon Cruiser is fully engulfed (1 Frame)

This is the 2009 Blu-ray showcasing the final Klingon Cruiser getting vaporaized.


And here is the 2022 Director's Edition



You see that? Shot #2 (Klingon Cruiser is hit and starts to be engulfed) has a compeltely different look to it. Not just in comparison to the other versions of the film, but within scene itself. Look at how the Klingon Cruiser glows in the 3rd frame and how it glows in the last frame. The 2009 Blu-ray is WAY more consistent in it's shots than the new edition. Also, look at the Cloud in the background. It's like someone turned off the lights.

When I started looking back at the 2022 Director's Edition, it turns out there are even more instances of this. I'll report back when I find more.

[Deciazulado]

Looking back, I think putting the recdeck set windows on their end woulda saved a lot of headaches

[Jeyl]

Originally Posted by Deciazulado

Looking back, I think putting the recdeck set windows on their end woulda saved a lot of headaches

Problem with that is that the officer's lounge windows are angled, not straight up. And it's a pretty steep angle too, so the shots that don't show the windows will feel out of place since they should clearly be in the shot if they're that close to it.

[Deciazulado]

Well my thinking was that if they had done a little carpentry and rotated the set windows 90º and like you said maybe incline the "wall" with them at an angle, it wouldn't been that different to the real thing and looked ok, not exactly accurate but without the expense and we may have given it a pass, kinda like with the rec room needing a 550m ship.

[KMFDMvsEnya]

I find the observation deck scene concept in TDE is perfectly fine and I actually like the better realization of it versus the original version.

Just hope if they do manage to revisit it then the major issues are improving the rotoscoping of the original live action plates, replicating more smoothly motion blur from the original shutter angle, and tweaking the rim lighting of the rotoscoped live action plates to better meld with the repurposed four panel observation windows in the background.

[Ernest Rister]

▶ Comparison of Star Trek: The Motion Picture - The Director’s Edition NEW 4K 4K DI HDR10 vs 2021 4K - YouTube

[KMFDMvsEnya]

Originally Posted by Ernest Rister

▶ Comparison of Star Trek: The Motion Picture - The Director’s Edition NEW 4K 4K DI HDR10 vs 2021 4K - YouTube

Why can't this joker's channel be outright banned due to always producing inaccurate rubbish?

[david_blu]

Originally Posted by KMFDMvsEnya

Why can't this joker's channel be outright banned due to always producing inaccurate rubbish?

I don't really know his channel, are those caps in the video very off the true look of the source?

[KMFDMvsEnya]

Originally Posted by david_blu

I don't really know his channel, are those caps in the video very off the true look of the source?

Yes, always.
I have no idea why their stuff is always so wrong, whether due to incompetence or intentional but the fact that their videos are popular does a disservice to those viewers and the general physical media enthusiasts.