Movies That Have Not Aged Well?

[DaniRyder23]

Originally Posted by bladerunner6

Smokey and the Bandit.

I am old enough to remember the trucker CB craze but I didn’t find myself laughing at it much when I rewatched last year.

Originally Posted by snipemonkey

Yeah, I loved those movies when I was 7 or 8 years old but I look at them now and just scratch my head that these were smash hits with actual adults back in the day. The whole 70s "Hillbilly Chic" thing is such a bizarre mystery now. That was one weird, weird decade.

I'm in my early 30's, and I still watch that first one regularly...mostly for Burt Reynolds and the Trans Am, though. The music is fun too...it's like the American version of The Italian Job: the story may not have held up amazingly well, but you've got some good actors/performances, fun car chases and a catchy soundtrack. They're just fun movies

[snipemonkey]

Originally Posted by DaniRyder23

I'm in my early 30's, and I still watch that first one regularly...mostly for Burt Reynolds and the Trans Am, though. The music is fun too...it's like the American version of The Italian Job: the story may not have held up amazingly well, but you've got some good actors/performances, fun car chases and a catchy soundtrack. They're just fun movies

I don't disagree about the movie. Burt Reynolds was at peak-charisma and could pretty much carry anything back then. What I was referring to mostly was the CB-and-Redneck Craze that literally took over America in the 70s. Lasted right up until around 1980-81 when Urban Cowboy seemed to finally burn out the last of the enthusiasm (thank God). It was really WEIRD seeing people in big cities who'd probably never come within 100 miles of an actual cow or horse running around in Stetson hats, skin-tight starched blue jeans and sh*t-kicker boots. Very strange indeed.

[dkelly26666]

Originally Posted by snipemonkey

I don't disagree about the movie. Burt Reynolds was at peak-charisma and could pretty much carry anything back then. What I was referring to mostly was the CB-and-Redneck Craze that literally took over America in the 70s. Lasted right up until around 1980-81 when Urban Cowboy seemed to finally burn out the last of the enthusiasm (thank God). It was really WEIRD seeing people in big cities who'd probably never come within 100 miles of an actual cow or horse running around in Stetson hats, skin-tight starched blue jeans and sh*t-kicker boots. Very strange indeed.

Except later every white suburban kid was walking around in baggy sagging pants and hoodies, talking hard ghetto slang and obsessed with rap.

Not any less cringey, really. And it's gone on for far longer than the mainstream country thing did.

[snipemonkey]

Originally Posted by dkelly26666

Except later every white suburban kid was walking around in baggy sagging pants and hoodies, talking hard ghetto slang and obsessed with rap.

Not any less cringey, really. And it's gone on for far longer than the mainstream country thing did.

True. But I guess the difference (for me) is that I don't mind "kids" running around trying things on for size because... that's what kids do while they're figuring out their identities and whatnot. It's a lot weirder and infinitely more embarrassing to see (nominally) grown-a** adults playing dress-up.

Also, you can drive around most big cities and actually see non-white culture. It's right there if you care to look. Cowboys in Chicago or Manhattan? Not so much.

Which leads me to think of one of the most iconic but also most completely anachronistic and bizarre movie scenes in the 80s -- the Torchy's scene from 48 Hrs. I know Walter Hill pretty much writes and directs all of his movies as modern day westerns, but plopping a hayseed cowboy strip club down in the middle of 1980s Los Angeles is... odd. Like all I can imagine is Nick Nolte and Eddie Murphy driving around for literally hours trying to find a redneck bar in L.A.

[captveg]

Originally Posted by snipemonkey

Which leads me to think of one of the most iconic but also most completely anachronistic and bizarre movie scenes in the 80s -- the Torchy's scene from 48 Hrs. I know Walter Hill pretty much writes and directs all of his movies as modern day westerns, but plopping a hayseed cowboy strip club down in the middle of 1980s Los Angeles is... odd. Like all I can imagine is Nick Nolte and Eddie Murphy driving around for literally hours trying to find a redneck bar in L.A.

At that time it wouldn't have been impossible. Southern California was part of the Country Western influenced part of the country still back then, which generally lasted into the 90s, and included Arizona, Nevada, Colorado, New Mexico and West Texas. Look at the Eastwood 70s films like The Gauntlet, or at who participated in the World Series of Poker in the 70s/early 80s. These were part of the culture of those areas, and it did bleed into LA at least somewhat. The internet helped homogenize those areas to be less influenced by it, especially in So Cal, Arizona and Colorado.

[filmbuffTX]

Originally Posted by snipemonkey

I don't disagree about the movie. Burt Reynolds was at peak-charisma and could pretty much carry anything back then. What I was referring to mostly was the CB-and-Redneck Craze that literally took over America in the 70s. Lasted right up until around 1980-81 when Urban Cowboy seemed to finally burn out the last of the enthusiasm (thank God). It was really WEIRD seeing people in big cities who'd probably never come within 100 miles of an actual cow or horse running around in Stetson hats, skin-tight starched blue jeans and sh*t-kicker boots. Very strange indeed.

The exception of course would be big cities within Texas, such as Houston, where Urban Cowboy took place. It’s part of the culture here. One minute you could be downtown at the corporate headquarters of a Fortune 500 company and then 30 minutes later be on a ranch or farm with livestock. People still wear the Urban Cowboy look here. Especially during Rodeo season in February/March. We have the largest livestock show and rodeo in the world and it lasts for several weeks. There’s also a “Go Texan Day”, the Friday of the opening weekend of the rodeo where you’re supposed to dress up in western attire at work and school. Been that way since I was a kid in the late 80s and into the 90s

[dkelly26666]

Originally Posted by filmbuffTX

The exception of course would be big cities within Texas, such as Houston, where Urban Cowboy took place. It’s part of the culture here. One minute you could be downtown at the corporate headquarters of a Fortune 500 company and then 30 minutes later be on a ranch or farm with livestock. People still wear the Urban Cowboy look here. Especially during Rodeo season in February/March. We have the largest livestock show and rodeo in the world and it lasts for several weeks. There’s also a “Go Texan Day”, the Friday of the opening weekend of the rodeo where you’re supposed to dress up in western attire at work and school. Been that way since I was a kid in the late 80s and into the 90s

Yeah, remember the long running show, "Dallas"? Millionaire oil men in cowboy hats. Very much a permanent part of the culture there.

I did find "Rhinestone" funny, though. It's a terrible movie, but it was fun seeing Italian American Sly Stallone as a wiseguy New York cabbie, and Tennesseean Dolly Parton trying to make a country singer out of him. I think the point most people missed about the film was it was making fun of that very thing of the metropolitan 'cowboy' culture.

There's also a charming movie called, "Murphy's Romance", from 1985, that features Sally Field and her son, the late Corey Haim, and her ex-husband, played by Brian Kerwin, ending up living in a small, dusty town in Oklahoma. Kerwin decides to make his son 'fit in' with the locals, he'll buy him a giant cowboy hat. Kindly, and hilarious local, James Garner (always likable, and made acting look effortless) sarcastically gives the duo a lesson in proper cowboy hat wearing etiquette, LOL.

[snipemonkey]

Originally Posted by filmbuffTX

The exception of course would be big cities within Texas, such as Houston, where Urban Cowboy took place. It’s part of the culture here. One minute you could be downtown at the corporate headquarters of a Fortune 500 company and then 30 minutes later be on a ranch or farm with livestock. People still wear the Urban Cowboy look here. Especially during Rodeo season in February/March. We have the largest livestock show and rodeo in the world and it lasts for several weeks. There’s also a “Go Texan Day”, the Friday of the opening weekend of the rodeo where you’re supposed to dress up in western attire at work and school. Been that way since I was a kid in the late 80s and into the 90s

I've lived in Texas my entire life. I know.

Oh, dear god, I know.

I've been attempting since childhood to wrest a confession from my parents that I was adopted from somewhere (anywhere) that is NOT in the Suth'un You-Nighted Staits but thus far they refuse to admit my true lineage.

[dkelly26666]

Originally Posted by snipemonkey

I've lived in Texas my entire life. I know.

Oh, dear god, I know.

I've been attempting since childhood to wrest a confession from my parents that I was adopted from somewhere (anywhere) that is NOT in the Suth'un You-Nighted Staits but thus far they refuse to admit my true lineage.

You remind me of my late father, LOL.

He despised southwestern country culture, too, LOL.

My mother's sister lived in Texas for years, and we'd visit often, and then we lived in Oklahoma for a short time.

This was when I was a child, lonnnng ago. Anyway, my dad hated the culture there, and it was probably even more cowboy then.

I haven't been to Texas myself since the 1980s, as an adult, when my mother still lived there (or had moved back, after the divorce, LOL).

My dad once told me we all went to eat at a truck stop type diner, and he went into the men's room, and saw scrawled on the stall wall, "Okie cowboy was here!".... My dad couldn't resist, and wrote underneath it, "You can always tell an Okie cowboy by the bull***t on his boots!" I dunno, either, but my dad seemed to think it was the best comeback ever, LOL. Told that story for years...

[Verisimilitude1984]

YOLT and the specific scene where Bond disguises himself as a Japanese man. The only scene that hasn't aged well and makes me wince for an otherwise near perfect film.

[filmbuffTX]

Head of State (2003)

The novelty of this film partly hinges on the idea of "What if?" a younger cool down to earth Black guy was a nominee for President. How would society and the media react? Would his campaign be different? What values and issues would he stand for?, etc. At the time no one fathomed that could happen anytime soon. Then just five years later Barack Obama is elected president. The movie was released in 2003, just a year before Obama gave his break out key note speech at the Democratic National Convention and become nationally known. It was the directorial debut of Chris Rock. I wonder how he feels about the movie now.

The tagline on the poster...lol