Physical & Digital EST: The Future of Home Video Discussion Thread

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by PenguinInfinity

Saying "it could be argued" doesn't absolve you of all responsibility of what you wrote.

How come? I’m stating what some people may argue. It’s a valid point.

[gotmule]

Originally Posted by PenguinInfinity

I judge everything on its own merits. A bad season doesn't make the previous seasons worse. A bad sequel doesn't make the previous movie worse. A season or sequel that isn't released on physical media won't make any of the previous entries worse either.

Agreed to a certain extent. I would however prefer a good show with a great ending than a great show with a jump the shark sort of ending. I still enjoyed Game of Thrones and even double dipped the 4K even though the last season was what it was.

[PenguinInfinity]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

You are changing the narrative now, the satisfaction with a show’s ending is irrelevant. It’s the ability to own said ending on disc that is relevant. I give you ‘Lost’ as an example. What would be the point if the final series didn’t drop on Blu-ray? Or ANY mystery series for that matter.

So if American Horror Story was cancelled after 8 seasons you'd be perfectly happy with owning the complete series on Blu-ray even though the story would still be incomplete?

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by PenguinInfinity

So if American Horror Story was cancelled after 8 seasons you'd be perfectly happy with owning the complete series on Blu-ray even though the story would still be incomplete?

Why would a show be cancelled after 8 seasons without a ending?

[PenguinInfinity]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Why would a show be cancelled after 8 seasons without a ending?

It's happened before. Legends of Tomorrow was cancelled earlier this year after 7 seasons. It ended on a cliffhanger but that didn't make me enjoy it any less.

[PenguinInfinity]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

What would be the point if the final series didn’t drop on Blu-ray?

The point of every show is entertainment. If you find it entertaining then it's not pointless to watch it or own it regardless of whether it has a conclusion or not.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by PenguinInfinity

Did you watch 60 hours of Lost and American Horror Story just to see their endings? That sounds like a huge waste of time.

Any show that I continue to watch it's because I enjoy watching it. Whether or not I see an ending never affects the enjoyment I've already experienced watching the rest of the show.

Well that’s where we differ.

[PenguinInfinity]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

You are changing the narrative now, the satisfaction with a show’s ending is irrelevant. It’s the ability to own said ending on disc that is relevant.

Why is a bad ending better than no ending? Personally I'd much rather a show end on a good cliffhanger than a bad conclusion.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by PenguinInfinity

Why is a bad ending better than no ending? Personally I'd much rather a show end on a good cliffhanger than a bad conclusion.

Because that’s the way entertainment works. We watch films to their conclusion. We play games to their conclusion. We read books to their conclusion. We can then then judge that complete work.
One man’s bad ending might be another’s high point.

[PenguinInfinity]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Because that’s the way entertainment works. We watch films to their conclusion. We play games to their conclusion. We read books to their conclusion. We can then then judge that complete work.
One man’s bad ending might be another’s high point.

If the conclusion is that important to you why would you watch TV shows in any form that don't have a conclusion? You shouldn't have even tried American Horror Story until the show ended.

[PenguinInfinity]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

What would be the point if the final series didn’t drop on Blu-ray?

The point of every show is to provide entertainment. If you find a show to be entertaining then it is worth watching and owning it (regardless of whether it has a conclusion or not).

You make all our hobbies sound like chores. You watch shows for years just to see the conclusion. You only play video games once because the whole point of them is apparently just to finish them. And you scold people for having a backlog because we are all apparently supposed to watch everything as quickly as possible whether we're in the mood or not.

[Vilya]

I have never felt like I have a "backlog" to watch. That would be a burdensome feeling.

I feel like I have a bountiful buffet laid out before me every single day where I get to choose exactly what I want exactly when I want it. It's a little slice of heaven on Earth.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

How come? I’m stating what some people may argue. It’s a valid point.

In all of the years that I have been collecting movies no one has ever presented me with that "argument" until you did today. Everyone I know, save one minimalist, has a large collection of something. What we enjoy varies, but we all understand and appreciate what it is to be passionate about our hobbies.

Your "valid point" is only found atop your own head.

[PenguinInfinity]

Originally Posted by Vilya

I have never felt like I have a "backlog" to watch. That would be a burdensome feeling.

I feel like I have a bountiful buffet laid out before me every single day where I get to choose exactly what I want exactly when I want it. It's a little slice of heaven on Earth.

That's exactly how I feel. I don't even keep track of what I have and haven't watched.

[veritas]

I generally buy in bundles faster and more often then I can complete said bundles. I don't worry about the films I haven't watched because I save a great deal of money by buying in bulk when deals present themselves.

[PenguinInfinity]

Originally Posted by veritas

I generally buy in bundles faster and more often then I can complete said bundles. I don't worry about the films I haven't watched because I save a great deal of money by buying in bulk when deals present themselves.

I do that too.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

It was my tribute to your method.

My method is spontaneity; joyful and in the moment.

Your method is like begrudgingly going through an arbitrary "first in/ first out" workload.

When I buy something has nothing to do with when I will watch it. I follow my heart, not a spreadsheet.

[veritas]

Personally the only time I'm annoyed about buying something but not watching it is if the price drops below the price I payed and I haven't watched it yet or the price has dropped more then 3 dollars times the number of times I have watched it. That way I can account for equivalent cost of renting it and waiting till later to buy it rather then just buying it and depreciating its cost 3 dollars each time I watch it.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by veritas

Personally the only time I'm annoyed about buying something but not watching it is if the price drops below the price I payed and I haven't watched it yet or the price has dropped more then 3 dollars times the number of times I have watched it. That way I can account for equivalent cost of renting it and waiting till later to buy it rather then just buying it and depreciating its cost 3 dollars each time I watch it.

Once I have bought something, I don't follow the pricing of that title any further. Why would I want to do that to myself? Why court needless aggravation?

Owning a title that I want is the only justification needed for its purchase. I see zero value in doing your peculiar cost/benefit analysis.

[Ibanezupyours]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Cobra Kai starts on Monday, will be watching that. Also final 8 episodes of The Walking Dead next month.

Originally Posted by PenguinInfinity

Too impatient to wait for the Blu-ray releases?

Originally Posted by Steedeel

I don’t buy continuing series on Blu-ray anymore. I learnt my lesson after getting burnt with American Horror Story and Killing Eve amongst others. Owning every series but the last one is incredibly frustrating.

Seasons 1, 2 and 3 of Cobra Kai have been released on Blu-Ray where you live in the UK, and season 4 is reportedly coming soon to Blu-Ray.

Cobra Kai is the property of Sony Pictures, not Netflix, so it’s likely that all of the season of the show will be released on Blu-Ray.

I’ve watched all 10 episodes of Cobra Kai season 5, if it’s not renewed for a 6th season, it won’t be a big deal, because season 5 does close the main aspects of the story, it could very easily be left there, and it would be a fine ending to the show.

To date, every season of The Walking Dead has been released on BD.

Originally Posted by Steedeel

I’m buying Blu-ray and UHD by the bulk, last time I checked, that was supporting disc.

I’m not going to spend my money on several seasons only to not be able to access the final or ongoing seasons.

Originally Posted by Steedeel

It’s the ability to own said ending on disc that is relevant. I give you ‘Lost’ as an example. What would be the point if the final series didn’t drop on Blu-ray?

If you and others that share this way of thinking were buying the seasons of TV series that are available on Blu-Ray that you like though, it would reflect in sales figures that there is a higher interest in them being released on Blu-Ray, so the studios would have more of an incentive to release the remaining seasons on the format.

Originally Posted by Steedeel

The point is, this is only going to be a growing factor going forward.

Going forward it will be for films released on BD/4K too.

Originally Posted by Steedeel

I haven’t got unlimited funds.

Neither do people that choose to pay for streaming services instead of buying discs.