Offline Gaming - List of PS5 Games with DLC/Updates on the disc

[PenguinInfinity]

Just to clarify: the issue on Xbox One and Xbox Series X is that there are no offline profiles. That means that after Microsoft ends support if someone deletes their profile (which is linked to their personal e-mail address) before selling the system or if someone deletes someone else's profile after they buy the system they will be unable to make another one.

Deleting profiles with personal information on them before transfer of ownership is a perfectly logical thing to do but in this case it will turn the console into a brick. No one should be able to break their console by doing something logical.

It also means that even if you are careful if you happen to buy a system that only has one profile on it you will be unable to play local multiplayer. There are also some games that tie progress to your profile instead of just save files. You won't be able to restart those games if you can't make another profile.

If it was just a one-time firmware update that couldn't be undone I wouldn't have a problem with it but the online requirement with Xbox One and Xbox Series X is much more severe.

[Doomhunter]

Originally Posted by PenguinInfinity

Just to clarify: the issue on Xbox One and Xbox Series X is that there are no offline profiles. That means that after Microsoft ends support if someone deletes their profile (which is linked to their personal e-mail address) before selling the system or if someone deletes someone else's profile after they buy the system they will be unable to make another one.

Deleting profiles with personal information on them before transfer of ownership is a perfectly logical thing to do but in this case it will turn the console into a brick. No one should be able to break their console by doing something logical.

It also means that even if you are careful if you happen to buy a system that only has one profile on it you will be unable to play local multiplayer. There are also some games that tie progress to your profile instead of just save files. You won't be able to restart those games if you can't make another profile.

If it was just a one-time firmware update that couldn't be undone I wouldn't have a problem with it but the online requirement with Xbox One and Xbox Series X is much more severe.

I may be misunderstanding, but I recently replaced by Xbox One with a Series X. All I had to do was wipe the old machine, and then connect the new one (I just used my iPhone hotspot) and add my current account . There was no reason to actually delete my online profile anywhere

[PenguinInfinity]

Originally Posted by Doomhunter

I may be misunderstanding, but I recently replaced by Xbox One with a Series X. All I had to do was wipe the old machine, and then connect the new one (I just used my iPhone hotspot) and add my current account . There was no reason to actually delete my online profile anywhere

When you wiped your old machine you deleted the profile off of it.

When Microsoft stops supporting the Xbox One and Xbox Series X the act of wiping a machine or deleting a profile will make the console completely unusable because there will be no way to download a profile on to the system.

[Zivouhr]

Originally Posted by PenguinInfinity

When you wiped your old machine you deleted the profile off of it.

When Microsoft stops supporting the Xbox One and Xbox Series X the act of wiping a machine or deleting a profile will make the console completely unusable because there will be no way to download a profile on to the system.

That reminds me of the PS3 and PS4.
PS3, had a Sony PS3 console required update (so it would allow my console to play a specific blu ray 3D disc) that literally almost bricked/disabled completely my PS3. It was updating, and stalled at 99%, ending up in a constant, endless loop and all menus were gone, no access to anything but the update screen. I had to use a computer to install the update on a USB stick, then mess with it after 39 or so attempts till it finally gave the update USB a chance to reinstall it. Total near disaster and my PS3 was working fine for years.

For PS4, the internal clock was said to go out of sync eventually when the clock battery dies in the future, and games would become inaccessible due to trophies linked online or some BS. Sony thankfully finally fixed it in an update years later, but those who don't update might have problems.

For PS5, right out of the box in November 2020, I put in the Miles Morales game, and it said please update your console. Same for PS4 games and disc movies. The PS5 was pretty much a useless menu till I was forced to update it.

PS2, can't reliably play most blue bottom discs, as the reader lens eventually wears out or something from just general use. All my discs were clean and I kept the tray closed, but unless the disc bottom is clear/shiny/reflective, PS2 is garbage for reading discs. "Disc Read Error". I have a box full of games it can't play unless I flip my PS2 upside down and then it might play the disc.

PS1, I gave that away to a relative as every single game, the console was overheating and while playing, the game would flicker and all the colors would over-saturate and get dark for 10 seconds at a time, totally distorting the screen enough to mess up your game.

Sony, once they get their act together, are generally reliable, but they definitely mess things up due to their lack of thoroughness and planning.

And of course the XBox 360, my first and last Microsoft console, was in perfect condition, taken care of respectfully but after only 9 months of owning the console, and kept in an air conditioned room, the red rings of doom appeared while playing Transformers the Movie Game, as the chip set or whatever, melted down from the soldering from the inverted design of the console, and totally bricked my console/ruined it so it wouldn't even start up. It kept showing the 3 red lights and the screen went black or whatever. With MS's free warranty, after the 3rd refurbished POS 360, I traded it in for store credit towards PS3 games instead. And I really liked the console too.


My Sega Genesis, Sega Master System, NES, Colecovision and other consoles are still going, no major issues other than sometimes not reading a cartridge once in a long while till reinserted.

On topic, disc games are nice, but it's sad when developers require updates to get it working properly these days. Gone are the days of everything on the cartridge.

[PenguinInfinity]

Originally Posted by Zivouhr

PS1, I gave that away to a relative as every single game, the console was overheating and while playing, the game would flicker and all the colors would over-saturate and get dark for 10 seconds at a time, totally distorting the screen enough to mess up your game.

You must really dislike your relative.

[jimidini]

Originally Posted by Zivouhr

That reminds me of the PS3 and PS4.
PS3, had a Sony PS3 console required update (so it would allow my console to play a specific blu ray 3D disc) that literally almost bricked/disabled completely my PS3. It was updating, and stalled at 99%, ending up in a constant, endless loop and all menus were gone, no access to anything but the update screen. I had to use a computer to install the update on a USB stick, then mess with it after 39 or so attempts till it finally gave the update USB a chance to reinstall it. Total near disaster and my PS3 was working fine for years.

Actually regarding PS3, that one still has the CMOS lock out.
This means that when the CMOS battery runs out (not if), and Sony shuts their TIME servers down, literally *all* DLC and downloaded content *will not work anymore*.

Yes, Sony was stupid or evil enough to require an up to date accurate date on the console, even when the end date of the content is 12/31/9999.

This was never patched. They patched the PS4, which had the same issue, but even refused to play discs, but not the PS3.

[PenguinInfinity]

Originally Posted by jimidini

Actually regarding PS3, that one still has the CMOS lock out.
This means that when the CMOS battery runs out (not if), and Sony shuts their TIME servers down, literally *all* DLC and downloaded content *will not work anymore*.

Yes, Sony was stupid or evil enough to require an up to date accurate date on the console, even when the end date of the content is 12/31/9999.

This was never patched. They patched the PS4, which had the same issue, but even refused to play discs, but not the PS3.

Just to be clear: PS3 doesn't need a CMOS battery to play physical games and never has.

[Zivouhr]

Originally Posted by jimidini

Actually regarding PS3, that one still has the CMOS lock out.
This means that when the CMOS battery runs out (not if), and Sony shuts their TIME servers down, literally *all* DLC and downloaded content *will not work anymore*.

Yes, Sony was stupid or evil enough to require an up to date accurate date on the console, even when the end date of the content is 12/31/9999.

This was never patched. They patched the PS4, which had the same issue, but even refused to play discs, but not the PS3.

Okay, thanks. If true for the DLC and updates, that stinks. Thankfully I hardly ever updated any PS3 games and rarely used the PSN store back then.

Originally Posted by PenguinInfinity

Just to be clear: PS3 doesn't need a CMOS battery to play physical games and never has.

That's good, thanks.