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Old 11-28-2023, 01:15 PM   #1
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Just watched the documentary,

Its..ok. It includes interviews with the producer, some cast (Barry Shabaka Henley & Tony Curran) and crew, although none of the major players are involved (No Mann, Farrell, Fox, etc). The first 20 minutes are people talking about the film and how they got involved. No deleted scenes or behind-the-scenes footage in it. Just interviews and clips from the film.

It does later go into talking about the production a little bit (mostly from Henley) but doesn't really go into any depth.

It's certainly not the warts and all reflection on a famously troubled production that was coolly received at the time and has since found an audience and been critically reevaluated that I imagine most people were hoping for.


It's nice to have both the Theatrical and Directors cut versions together in one package but as a big fan of the film, it's hard not to be disappointed overall after such a long wait. Especially going from a 4K release to a Blu-Ray with the same old transfer.

There's a new commentary by film journalists on the theatrical cut (haven't listened yet), but it is missing the Michael Mann commentary from the director's cut that is on the US release. The documentary mentioned above is the only other new extra. The rest are ported over from the existing release. Minus the Nonpoint "In the Air Tonight" music video, if anyone cares about that.

EDIT: I'm not the person to be judging the picture quality difference since I don't have a professionally calibrated setup and am not as sensitive to it as you lot, but I'd say the 88 release has "slightly" better PQ. The bit rate is a bit higher on average and maybe it looks a touch better to me but it's hard to say.

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Just watched the documentary,

Its..ok. It includes interviews with the producer, some cast (Barry Shabaka Henley & Tony Curran) and crew, although none of the major players are involved (No Mann, Farrell, Fox, etc). The first 20 minutes are people talking about the film and how they got involved. No deleted scenes or behind-the-scenes footage in it. Just interviews and clips from the film.

It does later go into talking about the production a little bit (mostly from Henley) but doesn't really go into any depth.

It's certainly not the warts and all reflection on a famously troubled production that was coolly received at the time and has since found an audience and been critically reevaluated that I imagine most people were hoping for.


It's nice to have both the Theatrical and Directors cut versions together in one package but as a big fan of the film, it's hard not to be disappointed overall after such a long wait. Especially going from a 4K release to a Blu-Ray with the same old transfer.

There's a new commentary by film journalists on the theatrical cut (haven't listened yet), but it is missing the Michael Mann commentary from the director's cut that is on the US release. The documentary mentioned above is the only other new extra. The rest are ported over from the existing release. Minus the Nonpoint "In the Air Tonight" music video, if anyone cares about that.

EDIT: I'm not the person to be judging the picture quality difference since I don't have a professionally calibrated setup and am not as sensitive to it as you lot, but I'd say the 88 release has "slightly" better PQ. The bit rate is a bit higher on average and maybe it looks a touch better to me but it's hard to say.
The doc sounds a bit of a fluff piece instead of getting into some of the crazy things that went down. I'm a fan of Dion Beebe and John Murphy and kind of still want to find about what they have to say.

John Murphy had some get scores then: 28 Days Later and its sequel, Millions, and Sunshine. I was friends with him on myspace, and he sent me the full scores of Miami Vice, 28 Weeks Later, and Millions on CD! There were a lot of John Murphy pieces that were used in many of the making of featurettes that didn't make it in the film.

Another disappointment about this release is that they didn't dig up the additional featurettes from the original website. The old MV website had way more featurettes that never made it as special features on dvd or blu-ray. I still have the "Racetrack" feature from the website in glorious 240P! That has some great music from John Murphy over it that wasn't in the film.
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The doc sounds a bit of a fluff piece instead of getting into some of the crazy things that went down. I'm a fan of Dion Beebe and John Murphy and kind of still want to find about what they have to say.

John Murphy had some get scores then: 28 Days Later and its sequel, Millions, and Sunshine. I was friends with him on myspace, and he sent me the full scores of Miami Vice, 28 Weeks Later, and Millions on CD! There were a lot of John Murphy pieces that were used in many of the making of featurettes that didn't make it in the film.

Another disappointment about this release is that they didn't dig up the additional featurettes from the original website. The old MV website had way more featurettes that never made it as special features on dvd or blu-ray. I still have the "Racetrack" feature from the website in glorious 240P! That has some great music from John Murphy over it that wasn't in the film.
Woah! I actually have the full score of MV, I *think*. Do you happen to know which track plays over the Racetrack feature? Heck, do you even have a shareable version of said feature??

I remember the RZA score was on the website, which was great. I know Mann went through his customary eighteen composers on that show like he always does, I'm surprised Murphy wanted to participate in the doc.

I remember there was an Entertainment Weekly article that did a pretty good job getting into all the drama on the shoot, does anyone know if any other trades/publications covered it around the time of the film's production or release? The Slate article that Kim Masters wrote gets regurgitated all the time but I didn't find it particularly insightful (or well written..)
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