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mjvmovieman · 12-07-2023, 11:16 AM

The Special Edition still contains the branching error of the line "So what are you doing down here, hot rod?" as opposed to "Yeah? So why did you come down?" (after Lindsey says "I didn't come down here to fight with you.")

admccroan · 12-07-2023, 11:28 AM

My husband and I watched this last night at an AMC. It was the only theater in our metro area with a population of almost one million showing it and there were maybe 30-35 people there. Neither of us had ever seen this movie before, so we had nothing to compare it to. With that in mind, here’s my reaction:

I absolutely LOVED this film! It was exciting, thrilling, and held my attention the entire time. The opening scene had me strapped in and ready for the ride. My husband left his seat twice but I stayed glued to the screen.

I thought it looked and sounded amazing. That’s all I’ll say about that. I’ll leave the conversation about film grain and colors to those who have seen the film more than once and have a better trained eye.

My complaints are as follows:
1) Like others have said, the VFX shots looked horrible. It was so disappointing when everything else looked so good. Unfortunately, this was the first thing my husband and I talked about as we were walking out.
2) I laughed when Bud yelled “Noooooo!!!” That was ridiculous.
3) Why does the ship look solid above water but translucent underwater?

My husband hated it. But, he’s a tough critic. He also hated Oppenheimer. During the drive home he spoke of the tidal wave threat, “Stop killing or I’ll kill you.”

I’ll be picking up the 4K disc in March.

Poya · 12-07-2023, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by tankryankr19

James Cameron had nothing to do with the T2 4K Transfer, it was all StudioCanal, he only approved the 3D Version, then StudioCanal got too greedy and since Cameron approved the 3D Master they assumed it would've been okay to release the Disaster of a 4K Master which I heard Lightstorm was not too happy about

I know I'm just saying I wish he'd know about that before they did that crap.

Jbabler · 12-07-2023, 12:27 PM

It was mostly fun watching a movie in a nearly crowded theater. Some people had some curious reactions at times. One guy had a really tough time with Coffey cutting himself - letting out a rather large squeamish Brian.

The weirdest was when several people laughed at Bud's line of "Goddamnit you *****, you've never backed from anything in your life!" Weird

Chad Rouch · 12-07-2023, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by admccroan

During the drive home he spoke of the tidal wave threat, “Stop killing or I’ll kill you.”

I think the message was about the devastation a nuclear war would wreak on the planet. This movie was released during the waning days of the Cold War. It was more, don't lay waste to the planet because other creatures live here, too.

admccroan · 12-07-2023, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Jbabler

The weirdest was when several people laughed at Bud's line of "Goddamnit you *****, you've never backed from anything in your life!" Weird

I was one of the people that laughed. I’m sorry, but it was laughable. And the way he slapped her back and forth. Hilarious.

I did’t really care for how much she got called a b***h though. And the overuse of the phrase “keep your pantyhose on” was cringey.

By_His_Strypes · 12-07-2023, 01:07 PM

Sometimes I wonder if some complain just to hear themselves complain. This does not look bad at all. In fact it looks beautiful. Put your glasses on or take them off even to see if that helps a little bit on your next viewing.

blakninja · 12-07-2023, 01:08 PM

Can Cameron release a new 2D T2 with his vision or he can't?

matbezlima · 12-07-2023, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Robojaws

Having read the feedback on the PQ I know that I will probably be extremely bothered by it, simply because of the ever-changing quality in its grain management and visible smoothing on some faces and such. If you have a nice filmic looking shot with little grain, then a smooth close up followed by a lackluster VFX shot, then a DNR'ed wide shot with no grain and then a filmic sequence/shot with little grain again, this absolutely distracts me from the movie, takes me out of the watching experience and makes me furious. Reminds me of Lord of the rings triligy on UHD, which was almost unwatchable to me.

Yes, there will be more details than on DVD (obviously), the picture will look robust and all, but in the end it was tinkered with in ways that make it look distracting to my eyes. Damn ��
Will wait for reviews and hopefully some screen caps comparisons, but as it feels right now, I won't buy that UHD; maybe 2nd hand for like 10 bucks in the future.

Too bad, that Aliens and True Lies will have the same issues on UHD... maybe even look worse.

So, the finger goes out to Cameron and Disney for once again f***ing with a classic and botching it up (at least in some mayor parts), just "like" they did with all their big franchises on UHD. Talking Star Wars, Pirates, T2, Avatar and now The Abyss and probably True and Aliens ��

The Star Wars restorations were done before Disney bought Fox. Only Lucas is at fault. Pirates, yes, Disney was at fault. Cameron movies, Disney is not at fault. It's all Cameron.

Some people just have such a hate-boner for Disney that they love to say "**** you" to Disney even for things that weren't actually Disney's fault.

By_His_Strypes · 12-07-2023, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by blakninja

Can Cameron release a new 2D T2 with his vision or he can't?

He can do whatever he wants... within reason.

SpazeBlue · 12-07-2023, 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by admccroan

2) I laughed when Bud yelled “Noooooo!!!” That was ridiculous.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jbabler

The weirdest was when several people laughed at Bud's line of "Goddamnit you *****, you've never backed from anything in your life!" Weird

Quote:

Originally Posted by admccroan

I was one of the people that laughed. I’m sorry, but it was laughable. And the way he slapped her back and forth. Hilarious.

By_His_Strypes · 12-07-2023, 01:46 PM

I don't know how one is able to inspect a scene to confirm what they think they are seeing while watching a movie in the theater. It's not like you can slow things down and watch over and over like you can at home. Some of the stuff people are mentioning you need to go frame by frame to even see.

samlop10 · 12-07-2023, 01:53 PM

We definitely need a dislike button alongside the thanks one.

Geoff D · 12-07-2023, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Jbabler

It was mostly fun watching a movie in a nearly crowded theater. Some people had some curious reactions at times. One guy had a really tough time with Coffey cutting himself - letting out a rather large squeamish Brian.

The weirdest was when several people laughed at Bud's line of "Goddamnit you *****, you've never backed from anything in your life!" Weird

What's a "squeamish Brian"?

Ruined · 12-07-2023, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by drush9999

He approved the 3D transfer and Studio Canal used the wrong part of that one to create a 2D one.

Studio canal did nothing wrong, there was only one transfer approved by Cameron and that is the one on the SC 4K disc, and the multitude of 4k releases in the years following from other labels. the reason it sucks is because Cameron didn't really care about 2d 4k at the time, and optimized the master for maximum 3d quality. Also cameron hates grain so if t2 gets rereleased, expect DNR again, just more artfully applied like The Abyss.

Mierzwiak · 12-07-2023, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Ruined

Also cameron hates grain

That's why Titanic looks like T2, right?

By_His_Strypes · 12-07-2023, 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ruined

Studio canal did nothing wrong, there was only one transfer approved by Cameron and that is the one on the SC 4K disc, and the multitude of 4k releases in the years following from other labels. the reason it sucks is because Cameron didn't really care about 2d 4k at the time, and optimized the master for maximum 3d quality. Also cameron hates grain so if t2 gets rereleased, expect DNR again, just more artfully applied like The Abyss.

I've heard/read in other places that there is a grain filled T2 4k transfer that does exist. Is it a guarantee we will get that on the next physical release? no, nothing is a guarantee, but in all likelihood we will.

Ruined · 12-07-2023, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Mierzwiak

That's why Titanic looks like T2, right?

Cameron literally saying he doesnt like grain, not long before the T2 remaster:

Also re-read my post

mar3o · 12-07-2023, 02:17 PM

I can't stand it when people micro-nitpick movies line by line. Not everything people say is Shakespeare in real life.

Mister C · 12-07-2023, 02:17 PM

Saw this yesterday and walked away extremely happy with how it looked.

Very excited to own this on 4k

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12-07-2023, 11:16 AM	#981
mjvmovieman Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Feb 2010 Blu-ray collection:136 Digital collection:1 iTunes collection:2 Blu-ray reviews: 3 Trading Score:267	The Special Edition still contains the branching error of the line "So what are you doing down here, hot rod?" as opposed to "Yeah? So why did you come down?" (after Lindsey says "I didn't come down here to fight with you.")

12-07-2023, 11:28 AM	#982
admccroan Member Top contributor Member since:Oct 2023 Location:Tennessee, USA Home Theater Gallery:6 4K collection:486 Blu-ray collection:760 DVD collection:16 iTunes collection:577 Trading Score:17	My husband and I watched this last night at an AMC. It was the only theater in our metro area with a population of almost one million showing it and there were maybe 30-35 people there. Neither of us had ever seen this movie before, so we had nothing to compare it to. With that in mind, here’s my reaction: I absolutely LOVED this film! It was exciting, thrilling, and held my attention the entire time. The opening scene had me strapped in and ready for the ride. My husband left his seat twice but I stayed glued to the screen. I thought it looked and sounded amazing. That’s all I’ll say about that. I’ll leave the conversation about film grain and colors to those who have seen the film more than once and have a better trained eye. My complaints are as follows: 1) Like others have said, the VFX shots looked horrible. It was so disappointing when everything else looked so good. Unfortunately, this was the first thing my husband and I talked about as we were walking out. 2) I laughed when Bud yelled “Noooooo!!!” That was ridiculous. 3) Why does the ship look solid above water but translucent underwater? My husband hated it. But, he’s a tough critic. He also hated Oppenheimer. During the drive home he spoke of the tidal wave threat, “Stop killing or I’ll kill you.” I’ll be picking up the 4K disc in March.

12-07-2023, 12:27 PM	#984
Jbabler Active Member Member since:Mar 2017 Blu-ray collection:42 Trading Score:10	It was mostly fun watching a movie in a nearly crowded theater. Some people had some curious reactions at times. One guy had a really tough time with Coffey cutting himself - letting out a rather large squeamish Brian. The weirdest was when several people laughed at Bud's line of "Goddamnit you *****, you've never backed from anything in your life!" Weird

12-07-2023, 01:07 PM	#987
By_His_Strypes Banned Member since:Oct 2014 4K collection:177 Blu-ray collection:367	Sometimes I wonder if some complain just to hear themselves complain. This does not look bad at all. In fact it looks beautiful. Put your glasses on or take them off even to see if that helps a little bit on your next viewing.

12-07-2023, 01:08 PM	#988
blakninja Expert Member Member since:Nov 2014	Can Cameron release a new 2D T2 with his vision or he can't?

12-07-2023, 01:46 PM	#992
By_His_Strypes Banned Member since:Oct 2014 4K collection:177 Blu-ray collection:367	I don't know how one is able to inspect a scene to confirm what they think they are seeing while watching a movie in the theater. It's not like you can slow things down and watch over and over like you can at home. Some of the stuff people are mentioning you need to go frame by frame to even see.

12-07-2023, 01:53 PM	#993
samlop10 Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Dec 2010 Location:Austin TX Home Theater Gallery:53 4K collection:1041 Blu-ray collection:3901 DVD collection:9 Blu-ray reviews: 59 Trading Score:1	We definitely need a dislike button alongside the thanks one.

12-07-2023, 02:17 PM	#999
mar3o Banned Member since:Dec 2011 Blu-ray reviews: 1 Trading Score:2	I can't stand it when people micro-nitpick movies line by line. Not everything people say is Shakespeare in real life.

12-07-2023, 02:17 PM	#1000
Mister C Active Member Member since:Dec 2020 4K collection:339 Blu-ray collection:549	Saw this yesterday and walked away extremely happy with how it looked. Very excited to own this on 4k

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