new plasma.. break in procedure?

[Pelican170]

Like some of the others said, people get paranoid about the break in period. Just stay away from black bars and static logos and keep your settings on normal for a couple weeks and you'll be fine. I think i did this for like 30 hrs tops, if that and ive never had a problem with all the gaming i do...

[repete66211]

Those who have broken in their TVs are glad they did because they haven't experienced any image retention. The problem with this thinking (correlation=causation) is the lack of an experimental control. If you break in your TV and you don't get IR, how do you know it's because you broke it in? Unless you compare two identical TVs (one broken in and one not broken in) with identical programming for a long period of time you can't conclude the break in procedure is beneficial.

I did the research when I bought my plasma and was unable to find any data justifying the break-in ritual. All I found was an old White Paper from Panasonic and a plethora of theoretical (rather than practical) explanations of why breaking in a plasma TV is necessary. My conclusion is that you should treat a new TV exactly how you treat an older TV--calibrate it and avoid long term (i.e. 12+ hours) exposure to static images.

I calibrated my TV but didn't break it in. Just like those who broke in their TVs, I have had no problem with image retention.

[cjpitt80]

This is the absolute best answer or insight anyone has given thus far. Being a biologist I'm intimately aware of the scientific process and this is a perfect example of it. Bottom line is like he said, only way to see if there is a difference is to buy 2 identical TVs set them up with the same source material. Watch normal TV for 100hrs on one and break the TV in on the other some way, THEN see if there is a difference. I would surmise that if the manufacturer doesn't mention it, it's probably not critical. Pioneer goes as far as to say "hey don't drop your expensive plasma" so if it were crucially important, they probably would mention it. On another note, it doesn't seem like there is any detrimental effect to breaking in you tv. Basically, aside from wasting electricity playing a DVD for 6 days straight when no one is watching it, you can't really hurt your TV. So I guess its up to each individual owner

Originally Posted by repete66211

Those who have broken in their TVs are glad they did because they haven't experienced any image retention. The problem with this thinking (correlation=causation) is the lack of an experimental control. If you break in your TV and you don't get IR, how do you know it's because you broke it in? Unless you compare two identical TVs (one broken in and one not broken in) with identical programming for a long period of time you can't conclude the break in procedure is beneficial.

I did the research when I bought my plasma and was unable to find any data justifying the break-in ritual. All I found was an old White Paper from Panasonic and a plethora of theoretical (rather than practical) explanations of why breaking in a plasma TV is necessary. My conclusion is that you should treat a new TV exactly how you treat an older TV--calibrate it and avoid long term (i.e. 12+ hours) exposure to static images.

I calibrated my TV but didn't break it in. Just like those who broke in their TVs, I have had no problem with image retention.

[perfectdark]

I agree with the last 2 posts, just be careful not to leave a static image like a STB menu or something on the screen for a long period of time. I bought my plasma 1 week ago, started the break-in period by leaving the tv playing over night for 2 days, then i gave up. I've since watched HD, SDand had bars on top and bottom, i've played xbox360 for a few hours. and i don't have burn-in (knock on wood) or any IR
Now my old Samsung plasma had burn-in but that was becasue i found my wife leaving CP24 on all day long..

[repete66211]

Originally Posted by cjpitt80

I would surmise that if the manufacturer doesn't mention it, it's probably not critical. Pioneer goes as far as to say "hey don't drop your expensive plasma" so if it were crucially important, they probably would mention it.

I agree, but the counter argument to that statement is that plasma manufacturers may omit such warnings in an effort to eliminate the concern many have when buying a plasma.

I would venture a guess that the #1 reason not everyone has a plasma is due to the concern with burn-in. Two other major concerns--the reflective screen and high energy consumption--may play a factor as well, but not nearly to the degree of the burn-in issue.

[BLUCanadian]

Originally Posted by repete66211

I agree, but the counter argument to that statement is that plasma manufacturers may omit such warnings in an effort to eliminate the concern many have when buying a plasma.

I would venture a guess that the #1 reason not everyone has a plasma is due to the concern with burn-in. Two other major concerns--the reflective screen and high energy consumption--may play a factor as well, but not nearly to the degree of the burn-in issue.

I think differently... Most people buy LCD cause the picture is much more vibrant in Big Box stores like BestBuy (due to their lighting)... Most people dont know what Burn-in is, and if they do, they have done some research and should know that burn-in isnt a major issue for plasmas nowadays...

[repete66211]

Originally Posted by BLUCanadian

I think differently... Most people buy LCD cause the picture is much more vibrant in Big Box stores like BestBuy (due to their lighting)... Most people dont know what Burn-in is, and if they do, they have done some research and should know that burn-in isnt a major issue for plasmas nowadays...

Oh, I agree that LCDs do tend to look better in the store. But in my experience, both in casual conversation and a lot of time in Yahoo Answers, is that the burn-in myth is still being perpetuated. So are the myths about energy consumption and plasma not lasting as long or requiring regular "recharging".

[Raibeaux]

Don't know if you've bought your tv yet, but I went to AVS Forums and downloaded the break-in onto a thumb drive.

Ran it 10 hours a day for three days, 16 hours a day until reached 120 hours.
I did, however, watch some 1:78 movies while I was at it, and they are included in the 120 hours. I've noticed some people ran the break-in 24/7, but I didn't think I should. I wanted some "rest" time for my new set.

That was a year ago...still no image retention. I've used the scrubber (white strip) about four times just for the hell of it. So I think the effort was well worth the time.

FWIW, I'm glad I went to the trouble

r

[HAMP]

Originally Posted by Raibeaux

Don't know if you've bought your tv yet, but I went to AVS Forums and downloaded the break-in onto a thumb drive.

Ran it 10 hours a day for three days, 16 hours a day until reached 120 hours.
I did, however, watch some 1:78 movies while I was at it, and they are included in the 120 hours. I've noticed some people ran the break-in 24/7, but I didn't think I should. I wanted some "rest" time for my new set.

That was a year ago...still no image retention. I've used the scrubber (white strip) about four times just for the hell of it. So I think the effort was well worth the time.

FWIW, I'm glad I went to the trouble

r

What is the link for the download?

[repete66211]

Originally Posted by Raibeaux

Don't know if you've bought your tv yet, but I went to AVS Forums and downloaded the break-in onto a thumb drive.

Ran it 10 hours a day for three days, 16 hours a day until reached 120 hours.
I did, however, watch some 1:78 movies while I was at it, and they are included in the 120 hours. I've noticed some people ran the break-in 24/7, but I didn't think I should. I wanted some "rest" time for my new set.

That was a year ago...still no image retention. I've used the scrubber (white strip) about four times just for the hell of it. So I think the effort was well worth the time.

FWIW, I'm glad I went to the trouble

r

You aren't experiencing image retention? How do you know this is due to your break-in procedure? Is it possible you would not be experiencing image retention had you not done all of this?

[Drew664]

Originally Posted by HAMP

What is the link for the download?

http://www.eaprogramming.com/

Click on the 'Downloads' tab near the top. I used a SD card on a PS3 with mine and got the corresponding file for it. Ran it for ~150 hours. No regrets doing it, just peace of mind.

[BergerForLife]

Originally Posted by Kryptonic

Watching something like Lost on DVD or BD is perfect for break-in. It's 1.78:1, it's bright and colorful, and four seasons is about 70-80 hours of content. Once your done with that, you should be set. Basically, just use common sense with your new plasma. After the first hundred or so hours, don't worry. Just leave the pixel orbiter on all the time and use reasonable settings. Have fun.

I just have to say this is the greatest post EVER!!! I will so be watching Lost when my Panny Plasma comes in a few days. Thanks!

[HAMP]

Originally Posted by Drew664

http://www.eaprogramming.com/

Click on the 'Downloads' tab near the top. I used a SD card on a PS3 with mine and got the corresponding file for it. Ran it for ~150 hours. No regrets doing it, just peace of mind.

Thanks Drew664

[Grif32]

Doing the Break in period will NOT prevent IR/Burn-in. I think that has been said many times but top calibrators in the industry. The break in period really helps people that want to get their set calibrated faster. Plus when you run the slides from Avsforum you are suppose to put it in Vivid mode and contrast at 100%. Opposite of what people really think about turning things down below 50%.

Buy it and enjoy it..

[surfdude12]

Originally Posted by PoorSignal

I am going to run the break in DVD as long as I can but I plan to play some 1.85 movies in zoom mode in THX mode which should be on the dim side.. in because it is the only TV and I do want to use it.. does that sound reasonable?

yeah, just put them on repeat every night when you go to bed for 7 hours. in 13 days, you'll be at 100 hours

[aramis109]

Originally Posted by Grif32

Doing the Break in period will NOT prevent IR/Burn-in. I think that has been said many times but top calibrators in the industry. The break in period really helps people that want to get their set calibrated faster. Plus when you run the slides from Avsforum you are suppose to put it in Vivid mode and contrast at 100%. Opposite of what people really think about turning things down below 50%.

Buy it and enjoy it..

+1. Had my set now for about 4 months and have been playing Dragons Age: Origins 3x a week on it for about 4-5 hours a pop and have had no retention. Do the break-in if you want to get it to a point where a professional calibrator can then "set it and forget it" otherwise just enjoy the set.

[SamC]

Originally Posted by PoorSignal

I also want to play my some games on it but I guess I should wait a bit or be more mindful about what is persistance on the screen for each game?

Anyways what do you think is a reasonable break-in and do's and don'ts?

I'd say don't worry about it. Just avoid anything other than full-screen material. Burn-in is pretty much a thing of the past... you really need to abuse the set to do it.

[Grif32]

I have had my one Panny Plasma for dang near 7 years with many many many hrs of gaming, sport tickers etc. Not once have I seen Burn-in on it. And today's plasma's are 1000 times better. So game, watch tv, porn whatever. Just enjoy your TV.

[bizarro]

ive had worse luck with my v10
playing batman this summer i had ir that lasted for weeks
and now playing dragon age the circles of my party and map are retained to

[Drew664]

Originally Posted by bizarro

ive had worse luck with my v10
playing batman this summer i had ir that lasted for weeks
and now playing dragon age the circles of my party and map are retained to

Did you use any break in methods?