Has anyone seen the movie, Precious yet?

[Idioteque...]

Originally Posted by jhiggy23

I think you are both right and wrong. Monique will certainly get an Oscar nom based on the buzz, as will Gabby Sidibe. However, Mariah Carey certainly will not, based on what I have read. Not that she is bad, but because the other two are the ones that carry the film. I also expect it to be nominated for best adapated screenplay and best film. Why best film? Because there is a ridiculous 10 nominations and it has been a weak year for quality films. Also, this is a typical Academy film--a movie with issues that have spurred conversation.

That being said, I have absolutely ZERO desire to see this film and will not even netflix it next year.

My favorite user is not interested in the movie but I'd argue it's not intended to be an Academy type of film, I think the intent came in once Oprah & Tyler Perry got involved. In addition to the material, from those 2 minutes it seems like the film will have a cool visual style, like for one example that shot of the TV coming down was really cool from a film-making perspective. I won't be able to fully judge the movie until I see it and I hope it's a great film.

[Gremal]

With Oprah behind it, I think it could get an Oscar.

My gf just saw it and liked it as an emotional roller coaster film with a message kind of movie. Too chick flick for me, but I'm sure it's good.

[Idioteque...]

Originally Posted by Gremal

With Oprah behind it, I think it could get an Oscar.

My gf just saw it and liked it as an emotional roller coaster film with a message kind of movie. Too chick flick for me, but I'm sure it's good.

Hey at least she didn't see Twilight. It could get an Oscar and I think Oprah has been on the search for one for a while, especially with the campaign to get Great Debators an oscar nomination. I don't think Inglorious Basterds or Moon have a chance of getting the win, 500 Days of Summer has a longshot of being nominated and Up has a farshot of winning as well. The only other film that I've heard about getting super oscar Buzz for best picture would be Up in the Air.

[jhiggy23]

Originally Posted by Idioteque...

Hey at least she didn't see Twilight. It could get an Oscar and I think Oprah has been on the search for one for a while, especially with the campaign to get Great Debators an oscar nomination. I don't think Inglorious Basterds or Moon have a chance of getting the win, 500 Days of Summer has a longshot of being nominated and Up has a farshot of winning as well. The only other film that I've heard about getting super oscar Buzz for best picture would be Up in the Air.

Inglourious and Moon will not be nominated. 500 Days of Summer prob will not either, despite the fact that everyone I know who saw it loved it. Films that will undoubtedly be nominated are Invictus, Brothers, The Hurt Locker, Up, and Lovely Bones (yes, despite the fantasy elements). The Road has a good chance based on subject matter, despite reviews that are not overwhelmingly positive.

Great Debators was a very good film and an interesting story. Certainly not best picture quality though. I also did not like how that was being promoted, although since it is a true story, it is a monumental achievement in the academic realm for African-Americans.

[jhiggy23]

Originally Posted by Idioteque...

My favorite user is not interested in the movie but I'd argue it's not intended to be an Academy type of film, I think the intent came in once Oprah & Tyler Perry got involved. In addition to the material, from those 2 minutes it seems like the film will have a cool visual style, like for one example that shot of the TV coming down was really cool from a film-making perspective. I won't be able to fully judge the movie until I see it and I hope it's a great film.

First, one of the above posters I think made a good point about Mo'nique in that the acclaim probably stems in large part due to the deplorable nature of her character and not her acting talent. This may be completely unfair, which is why I am not making any conclusions. However, if you read the reviews, including Ebert, he mentions how her character is one of the most deplorable villains on screen in recent memory. This does not guarantee a win though, so I think those who are saying she is a shoe in are speaking too soon. Remember that Ralph Fiennes did not win an Oscar for his portrayal of one of the most deplorable screen villains in recent memory, in Schindler's List. However, I think Mo'nique will undoubtedly benefit from a weak year, as will many other actors, actressess, and films.

I am not interested in seeing the film predominately because its attention and critical acclaim seems to be (key word is "seems"--I cannot make a definite statement here without haven seen it) in large part due to the media mogul Oprah and Tyler Perry. Oprah is undoubtedly one of the top three most important and influential media members in the US and Tyler Perry has major influence as well.

I have a bit of a problem with the fact that the film is gaining so much attention because it involves an obese African-American girl from the city who undergoes extreme mental, physical and emotional abuse. What I mean by this statement is that the promotion and acclaim of the film has centered mainly on the unusual conglomeration of the aforementioned characteristics, which have not truly been seen on screen before. The film is being promoted as an integral film for those of the African-American race and for those who are not African-American, to gain an understanding of the extreme difficulties that some people unfortunately have to undergo.

This bothers me. I don't see why race should matter here at all. I think the film should be promoted for what it is--an uncommon and poignant exploration of the pain and suffering of an uncharacteristic protagonist, and her ability to overcome these troubles. It annoys me when films come out and are promoted based on race instead of the merits of the film. There have been many examples of that.

So, it seems as though my reasons for not wanting to see it stem mainly from the promotion of the film, it is also in large part due to my disinterest with the subject matter and story. It just does not appeal to me. That being said, I prob will give in and see it at some point next year, simply so that I can discuss film on this site with the requisite credibility.

[Idioteque...]

Originally Posted by jhiggy23

First, one of the above posters I think made a good point about Mo'nique in that the acclaim probably stems in large part due to the deplorable nature of her character and not her acting talent. This may be completely unfair, which is why I am not making any conclusions. However, if you read the reviews, including Ebert, he mentions how her character is one of the most deplorable villains on screen in recent memory. This does not guarantee a win though, so I think those who are saying she is a shoe in are speaking too soon. Remember that Ralph Fiennes did not win an Oscar for his portrayal of one of the most deplorable screen villains in recent memory, in Schindler's List. However, I think Mo'nique will undoubtedly benefit from a weak year, as will many other actors, actressess, and films.

Deplorable yes but it does take acting chops to even pull those type of roles off but it's been a weak year and that's why she's really the top contender. Maybe one of the girls from Nine will nab the win.

Originally Posted by jhiggy23

Inglourious and Moon will not be nominated. 500 Days of Summer prob will not either, despite the fact that everyone I know who saw it loved it. Films that will undoubtedly be nominated are Invictus, Brothers, The Hurt Locker, Up, and Lovely Bones (yes, despite the fantasy elements). The Road has a good chance based on subject matter, despite reviews that are not overwhelmingly positive.

Great Debators was a very good film and an interesting story. Certainly not best picture quality though. I also did not like how that was being promoted, although since it is a true story, it is a monumental achievement in the academic realm for African-Americans.

Well seeing how we have 10 nominations this year it's possible. Brothers actually looks pretty awful, okay not awful but it doesn't look that well. I feel Messengers is the superior movie in that type of genre and that might get nominated. Invictus no doubt about it, Hurt Locker, honestly I was not impressed with it, it was decent and I don't see it getting a nomination. Lovely Bones was a given, regardless of fantasy or not. Academy loves Peter Jackson.

Great Debators was a good flick, but like you said about promotion wise, that's what ruined the flick for me. I didn't hear much about Precious so I can't comment much about how it's been promoted and I will try to ignore that publicity because I want to enter this flick with an open mind.

[masoud90]

Originally Posted by Idioteque...

Deplorable yes but it does take acting chops to even pull those type of roles off but it's been a weak year and that's why she's really the top contender. Maybe one of the girls from Nine will nab the win.



Well seeing how we have 10 nominations this year it's possible. Brothers actually looks pretty awful, okay not awful but it doesn't look that well. I feel Messengers is the superior movie in that type of genre and that might get nominated. Invictus no doubt about it, Hurt Locker, honestly I was not impressed with it, it was decent and I don't see it getting a nomination. Lovely Bones was a given, regardless of fantasy or not. Academy loves Peter Jackson.

Great Debators was a good flick, but like you said about promotion wise, that's what ruined the flick for me. I didn't hear much about Precious so I can't comment much about how it's been promoted and I will try to ignore that publicity because I want to enter this flick with an open mind.

I second that. With so many slots to fill for best picture, INGLOURIOUS BASTERDS has a good chance of getting in there. It is a great film. Let's not forget THE ROAD, and NINE at least.

[mikejet]

I think Monique will win Best Supporting Actress for this.

[Romulus]

This is one my most anticipated movies of the year. I think Mo'Nique has a great chance of getting an Oscar nomination, and an equally good chance at Best Picture.

[tacomaprime]

I hate that monique chic, so I refuse to see anything she is in.

[repete66211]

I saw the trailer again last night (before An Education, a great movie). While it looks like a good movie (Oscar bait?) I don't plan on seeing it. I have no interest because, as a middle-class white male living in suburban Kansas, I don't believe it's a movie made with me in mind. This is not to say I don't think I would get anything out of it or that I wouldn't sympathize with the characters but, like an atheist going to church, I feel it might be patronizing for a guy like me to see this movie. Or perhaps, as usual, I'm just putting too much thought into it.

[Romulus]

I saw this about 3 weeks ago. I thought the film was pretty good, but not spectacular. I didn't really enjoy the way it was presented or how the story was told. The performances by Sidibe and Mo'Nique were excellent, and I expect both to receive Oscar nominations. Still not my best film of the year, though.

[Jellybeans]

I will try to go see it!

I like movies with good messages

[groove93]

Originally Posted by jhiggy23

First, one of the above posters I think made a good point about Mo'nique in that the acclaim probably stems in large part due to the deplorable nature of her character and not her acting talent. This may be completely unfair, which is why I am not making any conclusions. However, if you read the reviews, including Ebert, he mentions how her character is one of the most deplorable villains on screen in recent memory. This does not guarantee a win though, so I think those who are saying she is a shoe in are speaking too soon. Remember that Ralph Fiennes did not win an Oscar for his portrayal of one of the most deplorable screen villains in recent memory, in Schindler's List. However, I think Mo'nique will undoubtedly benefit from a weak year, as will many other actors, actressess, and films.

I am not interested in seeing the film predominately because its attention and critical acclaim seems to be (key word is "seems"--I cannot make a definite statement here without haven seen it) in large part due to the media mogul Oprah and Tyler Perry. Oprah is undoubtedly one of the top three most important and influential media members in the US and Tyler Perry has major influence as well.

I have a bit of a problem with the fact that the film is gaining so much attention because it involves an obese African-American girl from the city who undergoes extreme mental, physical and emotional abuse. What I mean by this statement is that the promotion and acclaim of the film has centered mainly on the unusual conglomeration of the aforementioned characteristics, which have not truly been seen on screen before. The film is being promoted as an integral film for those of the African-American race and for those who are not African-American, to gain an understanding of the extreme difficulties that some people unfortunately have to undergo.

This bothers me. I don't see why race should matter here at all. I think the film should be promoted for what it is--an uncommon and poignant exploration of the pain and suffering of an uncharacteristic protagonist, and her ability to overcome these troubles. It annoys me when films come out and are promoted based on race instead of the merits of the film. There have been many examples of that.

So, it seems as though my reasons for not wanting to see it stem mainly from the promotion of the film, it is also in large part due to my disinterest with the subject matter and story. It just does not appeal to me. That being said, I prob will give in and see it at some point next year, simply so that I can discuss film on this site with the requisite credibility.

It involves an aspect of African American culture that is discussed in the confines of the home as opposed to it being exposed to Middle America, simply put. This is not to say that this does not happen with other races and cultures, because it does, but the subject matter in this film hits home with alot of African Americans.

Tyler Perry and Oprah as just names, no different that what Peter Jackson did for District 9.

I haven't seen it yet but I'm definitely interested, for I have seen some of this subject matter in real life and how it affects people on a daily basis.

[mikejet]

There was an interview with the director yesterday on KCRW's The Treatment and he said that he loves Mariah's performance the most. He said she even wrote a powerful song for the film but he didn't allow the song to be used at the end because he was afraid that the song would take away from the powerful performance. Also, he said that the film is rather funny at times but does deal with extremely serious subject matter. It's no surprise that he was involved with Monster's Ball.

I've always believed that comic actors/actress' can perform amazingly in a serious drama given the right role. Adam Sandler proved this. Monique should do fine.

I'll be watching it.

[Idioteque...]

Originally Posted by mikejet

There was an interview with the director yesterday on KCRW's The Treatment and he said that he loves Mariah's performance the most. He said she even wrote a powerful song for the film but he didn't allow the song to be used at the end because he was afraid that the song would take away from the powerful performance. Also, he said that the film is rather funny at times but does deal with extremely serious subject matter. It's no surprise that he was involved with Monster's Ball.

I've always believed that comic actors/actress' can perform amazingly in a serious drama given the right role. Adam Sandler proved this. Monique should do fine.

I'll be watching it.

Maybe he's trying to get laid lol. Was the song "Obsessed" by any chance?

Originally Posted by captclueless

I hate that monique chic, so I refuse to see anything she is in.

True, but looks like this is her trying to prove herself to audiences that hate her. Had she done this performance and then those stupid comedies, I would understand fully. I've felt that way about several actors who gave awesome performances and wasted their career with crap.

[mikejet]

Originally Posted by Idioteque...

Maybe he's trying to get laid lol. Was the song "Obsessed" by any chance?

Who would want sloppy seconds from Nick Cannon? And I think it was an original song for the movie.

[Idioteque...]

Originally Posted by mikejet

Who would want sloppy seconds from Nick Cannon? And I think it was an original song for the movie.

Hah, I just heard the song, it's quite terrible compared to the one used in the trailer. It's too Mariah definitely doesn't fit the film. Is Mariah playing the teacher or that other woman. The teacher seems to have a bit more of a performance than the worker. And didn't the director say the only reason he casted her was because of her performance in some other movie?

[masoud90]

Originally Posted by mikejet

Who would want sloppy seconds from Nick Cannon? And I think it was an original song for the movie.

Not really funny or clever. Pretty sexist IMO. Mariah Carey is a legend, beyond the point of some has-been rapper who is using her name to get some attention.

The song is called 100%, VERY very good.

I understand why the director didn't use it in the film, although I still like the song. Her performance was flawless and natural. The same goes for everyone else in the film. It was REALLY good. So sad and thought provoking that these things actually do happen in our own country. It's truly sad.

BIG Oscar contender.