Lord of the Rings Trilogy (Theatrical Versions) - April 6, 2010 - Page 250 - Blu-ray Forum

Mike2060 · 03-25-2010, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by radagast

So in other words: If one reviewer pans a BD and another says good things about it, the reviewer giving the good review is obviously a sell-out.

By that logic, the book reviewers who liked Lord of the Rings when they came out as books were sell-outs, while the book reviewers who hated it were honest and trustworthy.

If some reviewer reviews a Bose sound system and raves about it, then another reviewer says it's a piece of crap, and I know it's a piece of crap, who am I going to trust more?

Hell, I could know it sounds like crap without even hearing the system. All I would need are anechoic frequency response graphs of its on and off axis and I could make an accurate prediction. It's the exact same thing for blu-rays.

johnsmeets · 03-25-2010, 01:57 PM

Isn,t Bose the porsche under the speakersystems

robertc88 · 03-25-2010, 01:58 PM

Something just isn't right. We'll all have the burning question of why the delay with this release in the first place. Was it even worse and what was done with FOTR was the only way to go? Or was it the heck with it after trying some things, we'll release it and folks having to have it now can go ahead and buy it?

Only trying to make some assumptions, I don't think it was the latter. Something is amiss with the whole thing and I'm sure we will not find out what it was to tell the truth. The disappointment moreso is way the wait in the first place as far as I am concerned, almost like them not wanting to let the cat of the bag back when.

Mike2060 · 03-25-2010, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by johnsmeets

Isn,t Bose the porsche under the speakersystems

Andes · 03-25-2010, 02:00 PM

So far so good. I'm waiting for three more reviews for reassurance, however I still plan to double dip because these will blow away the dvd editions.

Digital Bits

http://www.thedigitalbits.com/review...ews032310.html

Dvd Town

http://www.dvdtown.com/review/lord-o...n/blu-ray/7939

Blu-ray.com ?

Ralph Potts (AVS) ?

Dvd Beaver ?

sub24ox780 · 03-25-2010, 02:04 PM

The screencaps I posted were completely random but detail goes in and out throughout the movie where dnr has been applied.

Mike2060 · 03-25-2010, 02:04 PM

Why do you people trust reviewers so much? Why can't they be in cahoots with the studios, anymore than eric.exe, or others who have posted screen caps can be in the Illuminati?

sub24ox780 · 03-25-2010, 02:07 PM

the screencaps I posted where real and I have all three blu-rays. But I agree with not trusting all reviews.

radagast · 03-25-2010, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike2060

If some reviewer reviews a Bose sound system and raves about it, then another reviewer says it's a piece of crap, and I know it's a piece of crap, who am I going to trust more?

Hell, I could know it sounds like crap without even hearing the system. All I would need are anechoic frequency response graphs of its on and off axis and I could make an accurate prediction. It's the exact same thing for blu-rays.

There were plenty of people who "knew" Tolkien's books were crap.

radagast · 03-25-2010, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by captveg

"I will say in the meantime, FOTR will never look as good as film 2 and film 3 for at least a couple of reasons, one being that TT and ROTR were slightly SHARPENED during the DI process with a new tool -and FOTR was not. If memory serves, FOTR is about 70% DI and 30% photochemical -from which an edited film master was then made."

- Penton-Man https://forum.blu-ray.com/3066790-post12768.html

The scenes may be the same, but that doesn't mean that they were originally finished within each film identically, especially when it comes to color timing, as these shots are followed by completely different scenes with their own intentions.

Scenes from The Godfather / The Godfather Part II within The Godfather Part III don't look the same, either.

This has been said repeatedly here, yet all the naysayers here won't respond to this. You may be completely correct. It may not be possible to make FOTR look as good as (apparently) TTT and ROTK look on BD. If TTT and ROTK look better than FOTR, why would Warner have spent time making them look good and not do the same for FOTR? What possible reason would Warner have for dropping the ball on FOTR? No one has disputed what you say about FOTR not having been processed by a digital tool that was available for TTT and ROTK.

Mike2060 · 03-25-2010, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by radagast

This has been said repeatedly here, yet all the naysayers here won't respond to this. You may be completely correct. It may not be possible to make FOTR look as good as (apparently) TTT and ROTK look on BD. If TTT and ROTK look better than FOTR, why would Warner have spent time making them look good and not do the same for FOTR? What possible reason would Warner have for dropping the ball on FOTR? No one has disputed what you say about FOTR not having been processed by a digital tool that was available for TTT and ROTK.

Why then is the HDTV version of FOTR better than the BD?

Mike2060 · 03-25-2010, 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by radagast

There were plenty of people who "knew" Tolkien's books were crap.

This is your rebuttal? I'll give you another try.

dborgill · 03-25-2010, 02:43 PM

"FOTR can't look any better" ? Why? It can't be remastered and look as good as the 15 year old Braveheart? Or how about 2003's Curse of the Black Pearl? There is NO excuse. Period.

adamhopelies · 03-25-2010, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike2060

If some reviewer reviews a Bose sound system and raves about it, then another reviewer says it's a piece of crap, and I know it's a piece of crap, who am I going to trust more?

Why not just check out the sound system yourself?

adamhopelies · 03-25-2010, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike2060

Why then is the HDTV version of FOTR better than the BD?

You mean the BD that you STILL haven't actually seen?!

Mike2060 · 03-25-2010, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by adamhopelies

Why not just check out the sound system yourself?

I could, but the graphs will tell me everything I need to know with startling accuracy.

Grand Bob · 03-25-2010, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by neo78956

In hopes of possibly turning the discussion in a more positive direction

Not much of a chance with that.

Mike2060 · 03-25-2010, 03:10 PM

Don't see how we can be positive at all about this release. It should have been reference and we all should be really excited around here.

radagast · 03-25-2010, 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike2060

This is your rebuttal? I'll give you another try.

I don't need another try. Have you ever read what Tolkien's detractors wrote when they criticized LOTR?

blujacket · 03-25-2010, 03:16 PM

I double dipped on the dvd's, & was actually thinking of double dipping on the blu-rays. Not now.

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03-25-2010, 02:00 PM	#4985
Andes Member Member since:Sep 2009 Blu-ray collection:509	So far so good. I'm waiting for three more reviews for reassurance, however I still plan to double dip because these will blow away the dvd editions. Digital Bits http://www.thedigitalbits.com/review...ews032310.html Dvd Town http://www.dvdtown.com/review/lord-o...n/blu-ray/7939 Blu-ray.com ? Ralph Potts (AVS) ? Dvd Beaver ? Last edited by Andes; 03-25-2010 at 02:04 PM.

03-25-2010, 02:04 PM	#4986
sub24ox780 Junior Member Member since:Mar 2010 Location:isle de murde Blu-ray reviews: 1	detail veries throughout the film The screencaps I posted were completely random but detail goes in and out throughout the movie where dnr has been applied.

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03-25-2010, 01:57 PM	#4982
johnsmeets Member Member since:Apr 2008 Location:apeldoorn netherlands Blu-ray collection:165 Blu-ray reviews: 74	Isn,t Bose the porsche under the speakersystems

03-25-2010, 01:58 PM	#4983
robertc88 Blu-ray Guru Member since:Sep 2007	Something just isn't right. We'll all have the burning question of why the delay with this release in the first place. Was it even worse and what was done with FOTR was the only way to go? Or was it the heck with it after trying some things, we'll release it and folks having to have it now can go ahead and buy it? Only trying to make some assumptions, I don't think it was the latter. Something is amiss with the whole thing and I'm sure we will not find out what it was to tell the truth. The disappointment moreso is way the wait in the first place as far as I am concerned, almost like them not wanting to let the cat of the bag back when.

03-25-2010, 02:04 PM	#4987
Mike2060 Banned Member since:Feb 2009 Blu-ray collection:19 Blu-ray reviews:1	Why do you people trust reviewers so much? Why can't they be in cahoots with the studios, anymore than eric.exe, or others who have posted screen caps can be in the Illuminati?

03-25-2010, 02:07 PM	#4988
sub24ox780 Junior Member Member since:Mar 2010 Location:isle de murde Blu-ray reviews: 1	the screencaps I posted where real and I have all three blu-rays. But I agree with not trusting all reviews.

03-25-2010, 02:43 PM	#4993
dborgill Active Member Member since:Apr 2008 Trading Score:18	"FOTR can't look any better" ? Why? It can't be remastered and look as good as the 15 year old Braveheart? Or how about 2003's Curse of the Black Pearl? There is NO excuse. Period.

03-25-2010, 03:10 PM	#4998
Mike2060 Banned Member since:Feb 2009 Blu-ray collection:19 Blu-ray reviews:1	Don't see how we can be positive at all about this release. It should have been reference and we all should be really excited around here.

03-25-2010, 03:16 PM	#5000
blujacket Blu-ray Guru Member since:Jun 2007 Location:Dayton,Ohio 4K collection:70 Blu-ray collection:658	I double dipped on the dvd's, & was actually thinking of double dipping on the blu-rays. Not now.

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