The Official Energy Speakers Thread

[Miker107]

Originally Posted by callas01

Miker, you do know that is artificial sound that your introducing to them..... I have to admit, Energy is not known for deep bass or forward highs. My fears is that they are not the exact speaker you are looking for. Linear speakers are not going to be super dynamic, for that the Monitor Audio RX2 or B&W 685s would be better choices. However, Equalize the speakers to your preference...

Yes, I found myself switching back and forth all day yesterday. I actually like the sound both ways. I had a hard time deciding which I like better, but after making some adjustments I think I got the best of both worlds so to speak. While Selective Tone is on I backed off on the bass and treble controls so i don't have too much of either. I think they sound great, but do you think I might be pushing them too much? They seem to handle this very well.

The receiver manual states the following for the selective tone function: "The selective tone control is used to clearly reproduce ultra low and high frequencies."

I don't want to use this if you think they will hurt the speakers in any way. I do like the sound of them with this turned off. My sub can handle any loss of low end for movies anyway, and they always had plenty of highs without the selective tone on as well. To be honest, I like the sound of Diana Krall's voice better without selective tone ...

[callas01]

Originally Posted by Miker107

Yes, I found myself switching back and forth all day yesterday. I actually like the sound both ways. I had a hard time deciding which I like better, but after making some adjustments I think I got the best of both worlds so to speak. While Selective Tone is on I backed off on the bass and treble controls so i don't have too much of either. I think they sound great, but do you think I might be pushing them too much? They seem to handle this very well.

The receiver manual states the following for the selective tone function: "The selective tone control is used to clearly reproduce ultra low and high frequencies."

I don't want to use this if you think they will hurt the speakers in any way. I do like the sound of them with this turned off. My sub can handle any loss of low end for movies anyway, and they always had plenty of highs without the selective tone on as well. To be honest, I like the sound of Diana Krall's voice better without selective tone turned on...

Oh, and I wanted to add that while watching I Robot yesterday, I noticed that I picked up on a few more sound effects in the mid to low range when I had Selective Tone on. I seemed to hear more noises that I didn't quite pick up on with the function off. Interesting.

selective tone will not affect the speakers, you are fine to use it, speakers have roll off on the highs and lows and as such they speaker can only play the frequencies they can.... what they can't is basically rolled off and lost.

[Miker107]

Originally Posted by callas01

selective tone will not affect the speakers, you are fine to use it, speakers have roll off on the highs and lows and as such they speaker can only play the frequencies they can.... what they can't is basically rolled off and lost.

Yes, we're on the same page. When I do use it I cut back on the separate bass and treble controls quite a bit. It gives the sound a little bit more punch on the bass end, but still blends quite well with the mids and highs. And the highs by the way are not overly exaggerated with this function turned on. They are very smooth and not in your face like you say.

[callas01]

Originally Posted by Miker107

Yes, we're on the same page. When I do use it I cut back on the separate bass and treble controls quite a bit. It gives the sound a little bit more punch on the bass end, but still blends quite well with the mids and highs. And the highs by the way are not overly exaggerated with this function turned on. They are very smooth and not in your face like you say.

I add a +1 to my receivers bass eq because I like that it adds a little extra punch, I have had it at +2, but to me that started to sound to bassy.... I am not into rave music so I don't care to have soo much bass.

However I used to have it at +2 on the treble, but then I started to notice that made them sound a little bright so I rolled it back to 0.

Do what you like, I mean it won't drastically affect the speakers, but you may find that over time you like it off and the eq at 0..... or you may like a +2 bass, and a 0 treble.... however the overall design of the speaker will remain the same.

[Miker107]

Originally Posted by callas01

I add a +1 to my receivers bass eq because I like that it adds a little extra punch, I have had it at +2, but to me that started to sound to bassy.... I am not into rave music so I don't care to have soo much bass.

However I used to have it at +2 on the treble, but then I started to notice that made them sound a little bright so I rolled it back to 0.

Do what you like, I mean it won't drastically affect the speakers, but you may find that over time you like it off and the eq at 0..... or you may like a +2 bass, and a 0 treble.... however the overall design of the speaker will remain the same.

I have noticed over time that as they break in they are sounding better and I've been adjusting and re-adjusting. It's funny, because now I have the Selective tone turned off and have bass set to around -2 or -3 (Can't tell because I do not have a digital reading to tell me what setting the knob is on), and the treble set to 0 and it sounds great. Of course I'm playing some Jazz on it right now and it seems that these speakers were just made for that type of music. I find that the bass is just fine at these settings, especially for music.

Oh yea, I don't like it too bassy either, I like it to be smooth and deep and just enough to tell you it's there. I think that's why I love that big stand up bass in jazz music and old standards from 40's and 50's era. I Like big band orchestra stuff too. There is something about that rat, tat, tat of the symbol mixed with that smooth flowing bass, mingled with a little horn. I just love that sound for some reason.

[callas01]

Originally Posted by Miker107

I have noticed over time that as they break in they are sounding better and I've been adjusting and re-adjusting. It's funny, because now I have the Selective tone turned off and have bass set to around -2 or -3 (Can't tell because I do not have a digital reading to tell me what setting the knob is on), and the treble set to 0 and it sounds great. Of course I'm playing some Jazz on it right now and it seems that these speakers were just made for that type of music. I find that the bass is just fine at these settings, especially for music.

Oh yea, I don't like it too bassy either, I like it to be smooth and deep and just enough to tell you it's there. I think that's why I love that big stand up bass in jazz music and old standards from 40's and 50's era. I Like big band orchestra stuff too. There is something about that rat, tat, tat of the symbol mixed with that smooth flowing bass, mingled with a little horn. I just love that sound for some reason.

well and that is the thing, you need to decide how they sound the best.... I like to let the speaker do its thing as it was designed.... just like the music.

Yea, Energy speakers do very well with big band and jazz, plus very well with rock music. I listen to John Mayer, Alternative, Tori Amos, sometimes classical, norah jones and a bunch of other stuff.... I think they are not as well atuned to Classical... but they can do a very good job of it, just not as well as I have heard from higher end speakers, Totem, Dynaudio, Amphion, Dali.......

I heard the newer CF-70s playing Michael Buble and I thought the standup bass was awesome.. between that and the drums there was really good deep bass... not super slam like Monitor Audio, but distinct.

I actually use my C-300s set to large and 2-channel direct, and keep the sub off... I like the natural 2-channel music. Except when I am listening to Hip-Hop. I love my sub added into hip-hop, my sub HITS HARD.

I played my sub for my dad who has B&W speakers and a JBL sub, I put on the New Star Trek and when they jump to warp.... Boom, Boom, Boom, Boom, boom, BOOM!!! He looked at me and said, that is A LOT of sub for your room...... I know you like your sub, but wait till you upgrade that to a Hsu, eD, Outlaw or SVS.... there are few comparable subs to them at their respective price ranges....

Right now I have Silversun Pickups playing,..... I love music. I listen to anything really.... just not country really.

[BigAl87]

Me I love my multi channel analog Direct for SACD so everything remains untouched and listening to Dark Side of the Moon and soon Brothers in Arms in an amazing experience every time.

[callas01]

Originally Posted by BigAl87

Me I love my multi channel analog Direct for SACD so everything remains untouched and listening to Dark Side of the Moon and soon Brothers in Arms in an amazing experience every time.

how did you get contributor next to your name?

[BigAl87]

Originally Posted by callas01

how did you get contributor next to your name?

I contributed so much to add some gear to the new section that I was proposed to become a contributor by Iceman and blu Titan so that way I can add the pictures and add new speakers without requiring approval.

And they realize that the info I was posting was accurate.

So now I can add any speakers I want with pix and description.

That's all

[callas01]

Originally Posted by BigAl87

I contributed so much to add some gear to the new section that I was proposed to become a contributor by Iceman and blu Titan so that way I can add the pictures and add new speakers without requiring approval.

And they realize that the info I was posting was accurate.

So now I can add any speakers I want with pix and description.

That's all

I think then I should get Honorary Reviewer.... since I write the best reviews..

I cant load pics, I have dial up.... and it takes forever, so I just don't do it.

[donaldsonjune]

hello callas01,

i'm using c-100's all around with a sub & c-c100 center. i'm really thinking about getting a pair of c-300's. i love jazz also, but more of a movie watcher. their's a pair in philly around $500 in rosewood. i'll hold out for a pair in black with a better price. if you see any deals let me know.

[callas01]

Originally Posted by donaldsonjune

hello callas01,

i'm using c-100's all around with a sub & c-c100 center. i'm really thinking about getting a pair of c-300's. i love jazz also, but more of a movie watcher. their's a pair in philly around $500 in rosewood. i'll hold out for a pair in black with a better price. if you see any deals let me know.

you should just jump on the C-300s, are you talking about world wide stereo?

Unless you locate them on ebay or craigslist, it will be really hard to find the C-300s or C-500s anywhere.

World Wide Stereo is a great place, I am sure you could talk them down $50-100, Heck I would tell them that they were selling them for $250 18 mos ago and $400 is a good deal for both of you.

[donaldsonjune]

callis,

i saw a pair on ebay for 370 in rosewood again. i'll call worldwide & see if i can make a deal.

[BigAl87]

Originally Posted by callas01

I think then I should get Honorary Reviewer.... since I write the best reviews..

I cant load pics, I have dial up.... and it takes forever, so I just don't do it.

lol I agree you write great reviews I'll give you that. Now you really put me in a great dilemma between Dyns and Totem but I have to hear the Dyns Excite 16 and the Focus 140 as well.

I liked the Rainmaker enough to maybe pull the trigger on them seriously great performance to price ratio for half the price of the Staff Hmmm!!!.

[callas01]

I was actually thinking the same thing about getting the Rainmakers.... Then adding the Rainmaker center and I could have a great front soundstage for the same price as getting the Staffs.


Then it would all be about getting a Very Good receiver or a decent receiver and an amp, but I am leaning towards Sherwood or NAD.

[Miker107]

Originally Posted by callas01

I was actually thinking the same thing about getting the Rainmakers.... Then adding the Rainmaker center and I could have a great front soundstage for the same price as getting the Staffs.


Then it would all be about getting a Very Good receiver or a decent receiver and an amp, but I am leaning towards Sherwood or NAD.

Aw guys, now why are you making me over those rainmakers?

[BigAl87]

Originally Posted by callas01

I was actually thinking the same thing about getting the Rainmakers.... Then adding the Rainmaker center and I could have a great front soundstage for the same price as getting the Staffs.


Then it would all be about getting a Very Good receiver or a decent receiver and an amp, but I am leaning towards Sherwood or NAD.

Did you finally get to listen to them?


What kind of budget are you looking into for your receiver. Have you considered Cambridge?

http://www.cambridgeaudio.com/specif...Specifications

1799$

Just look at the THD at 1khz

100 watts all channels driven

120 watts per channels in stereo

It drives 4 ohms

Last but not least Bi-Amplification capable.

[BigAl87]

Originally Posted by Miker107

Aw guys, now why are you making me over those rainmakers?

LOL you have a better line of speakers than what we already have lol and you want the Totems now lol fantastic bokshelves indeed with a real role model in quality control from Totem, Dynaudio is the same way about their speakers.

It's just remarkable and whats great about them is they are made in Canada as Dynaudio is probably made all in Danemark. Nothing from those speaker makers is assembled in China.

[Miker107]

Originally Posted by BigAl87

LOL you have a better line of speakers than what we already have lol and you want the Totems now lol fantastic bokshelves indeed with a real role model in quality control from Totem, Dynaudio is the same way about their speakers.

It's just remarkable and whats great about them is they are made in Canada as Dynaudio is probably made all in Danemark. Nothing from those speaker makers is assembled in China.

Where can you even find rainmakers? I did a google search under shopping for them and I only got a couple pairs on Ebay. Are they hard to come by or what? Not that I'm in the market, just curious. Besides, I'm sure they are way out of my price range...

[callas01]

Originally Posted by Miker107

Aw guys, now why are you making me over those rainmakers?

You should, they are a level above the Energys.... Oh, but they are so so so nice...

Originally Posted by BigAl87

What kind of budget are you looking into for your receiver. Have you considered Cambridge?

I have for an integrated amp, but I want to gaurantee that I can power 4 ohm speakers, that is why NAD and Sherwood NC are at the top of the list.

Roughly $1000 for a great receiver... and then I may or may not get the bookshelfs at the same time and run as a phantom center or just wait another year and then get new speakers and just have a much better receiver for the Energys, which is what I am thinking of doing.

I have thought of Cambridge, but I doubt I will go that route.....