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Mouse · 07-16-2012, 06:03 PM

I grew up watching TNG but that was while it was actually coming out live so I was still just a kid and hardly remember much of the actual episodes. I remember all the movies quite well (Original & TNG ones). Anyway, now that Netflix has all of them on instant streaming I've added them all to my list and just recently finished Enterprise. Figured I'd go in chronological order instead of release dates. Really liked the entire series and the characters. Dr. Flox and T'Pol are probably my favs.

About 6 or 7 episodes in on Season 1 of the Original series now. Was really confused when I first started episode 1 and there was no William Shatner or anyone else except Leonard Nemoy. Then episode 2 and there they all are. No explanation - no clues - no hints - no character development - starting in the middle of a mission. I mean, what gives? They started the show all wrong. Would of been so much better had they shown Captain Kirk taking command of Enterprise and introducing the main crew. I get the show is what.. over 40 years old now? So I can forgive the cheesiness and poor special effects. Anyway, I'm having a hard time making myself watch the rest of the Original series. Will probably end up being my least favorite.

Forever Knight · 07-16-2012, 06:06 PM

Deanna Troi sickens me.

Samus Aran · 07-17-2012, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Mouse

I grew up watching TNG but that was while it was actually coming out live so I was still just a kid and hardly remember much of the actual episodes. I remember all the movies quite well (Original & TNG ones). Anyway, now that Netflix has all of them on instant streaming I've added them all to my list and just recently finished Enterprise. Figured I'd go in chronological order instead of release dates. Really liked the entire series and the characters. Dr. Flox and T'Pol are probably my favs.

Chronological? So you have to stop before the last episode of Enterprise, then watch a few seasons of TNG before you can go back to it?

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About 6 or 7 episodes in on Season 1 of the Original series now. Was really confused when I first started episode 1 and there was no William Shatner or anyone else except Leonard Nemoy. Then episode 2 and there they all are. No explanation - no clues - no hints - no character development - starting in the middle of a mission. I mean, what gives? They started the show all wrong. Would of been so much better had they shown Captain Kirk taking command of Enterprise and introducing the main crew. I get the show is what.. over 40 years old now? So I can forgive the cheesiness and poor special effects. Anyway, I'm having a hard time making myself watch the rest of the Original series. Will probably end up being my least favorite.

The pilot had a different actor and female first officer. The network wanted less brain and more brawn, so a new pilot was shot with Captain Kirk. But the original pilot still counted and they even referred to it in a later episode.

Captain Pike is who Bruce Greenwood played in the 2009 movie.

EricJ · 07-17-2012, 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Samus Aran

The pilot had a different actor and female first officer. The network wanted less brain and more brawn, so a new pilot was shot with Captain Kirk. But the original pilot still counted and they even referred to it in a later episode.

In fact they showed most of it, recycling to use as the episode "Court-Martial".

(Also, Dr. McCoy hadn't signed on yet in the pilot, and Pike's ship's doctor was more of a standard grandfatherly small-town doctor out of your standard Western. Right idea, but not quite up to the level yet.
Oh, and btw, the Pike pilot is one of only TWO episodes of the entire TOS in which Orion girls appear--and an illusion, no less--which means Kirk only had one chance to "make it with a green-skinned alien female", unquote, in Season 2. And as that one happened to be a scheming lunatic, he didn't.)

Forever Knight · 07-17-2012, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Samus Aran

Chronological? So you have to stop before the last episode of Enterprise, then watch a few seasons of TNG before you can go back to it?

Actually there is a fan edit out which cuts out the TNG parts of the Enterprise finale. It becomes a 20 minute episode but still.

Monolithium · 07-17-2012, 11:05 AM

Terra Prime is the series finale.

Mouse · 07-17-2012, 03:43 PM

haha You are right Samus, I should of stopped before watching the last filmed episode of Enterprise (or watched the fan edit) and kinda wish I knew what was going to happen and I would of skipped the episode entirely.

Really good episode but very sad.

As for TOS, when does Scotty start getting to play a bigger role? It was several episodes in before he even made an appearance and even then he was treated like an extra. He was always my favorite in the original movies.

Forever Knight · 07-17-2012, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Monolithium

Terra Prime is the series finale.

Nah man.

Am I the only one who liked the final episode?.

Talyn · 07-17-2012, 07:41 PM

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Nah man.

Am I the only one who liked the final episode?.

Not sure, but I didn't like it.... Seasons 3 and 4 were outstanding, it didn't need the TNG connection. Don't get me wrong I like Frakes, but that was a glorified TNG episode, not an Enterprise episode....

Forever Knight · 07-17-2012, 08:18 PM

The TNG connection was because of those morons cancelling at over at CW.

They threw it in there to make everyone (of this generation and who are ST fans) happy. But it fell back on them. They had good intentions.

lazystoner · 07-18-2012, 05:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Forever Knight

The TNG connection was because of those morons cancelling at over at UPN.

Fixed that for you.

L-Rouge · 07-18-2012, 07:49 AM

yea i think "The Cage" was shot in '64, about a 3 year difference. between pilots regardless.

@Ericj i think the episode is "The Menagerie"

Monolithium · 07-18-2012, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Forever Knight

They had good intentions.

If it had been a stand-alone episode in the middle of the season it could have worked. But as the series finale? No.

Al_The_Strange · 07-18-2012, 10:39 AM

I've always been a bigger fan of the feature films. I do like the original series, and I've always loved TNG, so I voted on that. Seen quite a few episodes of DS9, Voyager, and Enterprise, but never really became a fan.

If they all hit BD, that might change.

Forever Knight · 07-18-2012, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by lazystoner

Fixed that for you.

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Originally Posted by Monolithium

If it had been a stand-alone episode in the middle of the season it could have worked. But as the series finale? No.

Did you miss the end of the episode where Archer launched the Federation?. That alone makes it a solid finale episode.

Monolithium · 07-18-2012, 02:21 PM

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Did you miss the end of the episode where Archer launched the Federation?. That alone makes it a solid finale episode.

Could've been a great moment if Riker hadn't turned off the holodeck before anything happened. But I guess his story was more important than Archer's story. But one hated (for me) episode out 98 ain't bad.

mars396 · 08-01-2012, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by EricJ

In fact they showed most of it, recycling to use as the episode "Court-Martial".

Actually, that was "The Menagerie" parts 1 and 2

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Originally Posted by EricJ

Oh, and btw, the Pike pilot is one of only TWO episodes of the entire TOS in which Orion girls appear--and an illusion, no less--which means Kirk only had one chance to "make it with a green-skinned alien female", unquote, in Season 2. And as that one happened to be a scheming lunatic, he didn't.)

"For Whom Gods Destroy" was a THIRD season episode

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Elandyll · 08-01-2012, 05:53 PM

Am in the 6th season of Voyager, and man... I'm still struggling on many episodes.
Granted, it is far better than the first 3 seasons, but it still has far too many fillers/ "seen it before" episodes imo. Nowhere near the awesomeness of TNG/ DS9 imo, even though it has had "some" good moments.

As I am approaching the end of Voyager, I am already dreading having to watch Enterprise which, to be fair, I have never really given a fair chance... only seen a few episodes.

Forever Knight · 08-02-2012, 06:21 AM

Almost done season 1 of DS9 and I'm enjoying it. Can't wait for the war.

As for Enterprise, give it until season 3 and that's when they go to war and you'll be glued to your ****ing seat. Trust me man.

I'm looking forward to Voyager due to lots of Borg.

CaptainYoda · 08-02-2012, 03:03 PM

I voted Original Series. BUt I loved Deep Space Nine as well. The Dominion stuff was great and that show seemed to have the most character development, even with all the supporting characters. Like Garak.

Voyager just seemed like a rehash of the Next Generation. The whole Maquis being integrated into the crew went too smoothly for the most part. And for the whole first season they kept running into the same bad guys, the Kazon (spelling?).

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Enterprise	2	1.57%
The Original Series	34	26.77%
The Next Generation	45	35.43%
Deep Space Nine	32	25.20%
Voyager	14	11.02%
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07-16-2012, 06:03 PM	#21
Mouse Special Member Member since:Jan 2008 Location:Texas, USA Blu-ray collection:83 DVD collection:116 Trading Score:1	I grew up watching TNG but that was while it was actually coming out live so I was still just a kid and hardly remember much of the actual episodes. I remember all the movies quite well (Original & TNG ones). Anyway, now that Netflix has all of them on instant streaming I've added them all to my list and just recently finished Enterprise. Figured I'd go in chronological order instead of release dates. Really liked the entire series and the characters. Dr. Flox and T'Pol are probably my favs. About 6 or 7 episodes in on Season 1 of the Original series now. Was really confused when I first started episode 1 and there was no William Shatner or anyone else except Leonard Nemoy. Then episode 2 and there they all are. No explanation - no clues - no hints - no character development - starting in the middle of a mission. I mean, what gives? They started the show all wrong. Would of been so much better had they shown Captain Kirk taking command of Enterprise and introducing the main crew. I get the show is what.. over 40 years old now? So I can forgive the cheesiness and poor special effects. Anyway, I'm having a hard time making myself watch the rest of the Original series. Will probably end up being my least favorite.

07-16-2012, 06:06 PM	#22
Forever Knight Blu-ray Knight Member since:Mar 2011 Location:Toronto, Canada	Deanna Troi sickens me.

07-17-2012, 11:05 AM	#26
Monolithium Power Member Member since:Jan 2009 Location:Canada	Terra Prime is the series finale.

07-17-2012, 03:43 PM	#27
Mouse Special Member Member since:Jan 2008 Location:Texas, USA Blu-ray collection:83 DVD collection:116 Trading Score:1	haha You are right Samus, I should of stopped before watching the last filmed episode of Enterprise (or watched the fan edit) and kinda wish I knew what was going to happen and I would of skipped the episode entirely. Really good episode but very sad. As for TOS, when does Scotty start getting to play a bigger role? It was several episodes in before he even made an appearance and even then he was treated like an extra. He was always my favorite in the original movies.

07-17-2012, 08:18 PM	#30
Forever Knight Blu-ray Knight Member since:Mar 2011 Location:Toronto, Canada	The TNG connection was because of those morons cancelling at over at CW. They threw it in there to make everyone (of this generation and who are ST fans) happy. But it fell back on them. They had good intentions.

07-18-2012, 07:49 AM	#32
L-Rouge Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Aug 2010 Location:south 4K collection:5 Blu-ray collection:254	yea i think "The Cage" was shot in '64, about a 3 year difference. between pilots regardless. @Ericj i think the episode is "The Menagerie"

07-18-2012, 10:39 AM	#34
Al_The_Strange Blu-ray Prince Top contributor Member since:Apr 2009 Location:Out there...past them trees... Home Theater Gallery:126 4K collection:1125 Blu-ray collection:4949 DVD collection:530 Digital collection:1008 Blu-ray reviews: 132 Trading Score:32	I've always been a bigger fan of the feature films. I do like the original series, and I've always loved TNG, so I voted on that. Seen quite a few episodes of DS9, Voyager, and Enterprise, but never really became a fan. If they all hit BD, that might change.

08-01-2012, 05:53 PM	#38
Elandyll Blu-ray Knight Member since:Aug 2007 Location:MD Blu-ray collection:188 Trading Score:1	Am in the 6th season of Voyager, and man... I'm still struggling on many episodes. Granted, it is far better than the first 3 seasons, but it still has far too many fillers/ "seen it before" episodes imo. Nowhere near the awesomeness of TNG/ DS9 imo, even though it has had "some" good moments. As I am approaching the end of Voyager, I am already dreading having to watch Enterprise which, to be fair, I have never really given a fair chance... only seen a few episodes.

08-02-2012, 06:21 AM	#39
Forever Knight Blu-ray Knight Member since:Mar 2011 Location:Toronto, Canada	Almost done season 1 of DS9 and I'm enjoying it. Can't wait for the war. As for Enterprise, give it until season 3 and that's when they go to war and you'll be glued to your ****ing seat. Trust me man. I'm looking forward to Voyager due to lots of Borg.

08-02-2012, 03:03 PM	#40
CaptainYoda Power Member Member since:Feb 2009 Location:Temescal Valley, CA 4K collection:49 Blu-ray collection:371	I voted Original Series. BUt I loved Deep Space Nine as well. The Dominion stuff was great and that show seemed to have the most character development, even with all the supporting characters. Like Garak. Voyager just seemed like a rehash of the Next Generation. The whole Maquis being integrated into the crew went too smoothly for the most part. And for the whole first season they kept running into the same bad guys, the Kazon (spelling?).

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