PS4 download speeds vs. PS3

[NARMAK]

Now, I don't know how many people know this but apparently the PS3 downloads from the PlayStation store are (or were when I checked last) capped at a speed of 12mb/s. Now with people having connections soon in the UK to be over 100mb/s and as high as 150mb/s with Virgin Media fibre optic and apparently in South Korea able to get a 1GB net speed almost!!

Is Sony going to uncap the download speed for PS4 and just let it be limited to the internet speeds the individual posses or just increase it a little?

[camper]

Originally Posted by NARMAK

Now, I don't know how many people know this but apparently the PS3 downloads from the PlayStation store are (or were when I checked last) capped at a speed of 12mb/s. Now with people having connections soon in the UK to be over 100mb/s and as high as 150mb/s with Virgin Media fibre optic and apparently in South Korea able to get a 1GB net speed almost!!

Is Sony going to uncap the download speed for PS4 and just let it be limited to the internet speeds the individual posses or just increase it a little?

It depends on where the bottleneck truly is. Sony may only have it set to devote that much speed so as not to overload their servers, whoever is providing the backbone might limit it, or who knows what.

Likely they are setting the threshold limit at 12mbps because bandwidth isn't infinite, and BECAUSE some people have 150mbps connections they can monopolize it.

But if the Sony store has a 12mbps cap, it will be for the PS3 and PS4.

[Havok83]

Originally Posted by camper

It depends on where the bottleneck truly is. Sony may only have it set to devote that much speed so as not to overload their servers, whoever is providing the backbone might limit it, or who knows what.

Likely they are setting the threshold limit at 12mbps because bandwidth isn't infinite, and BECAUSE some people have 150mbps connections they can monopolize it.

But if the Sony store has a 12mbps cap, it will be for the PS3 and PS4.

Sony also wasn't charging consumers for online functionality last gen. I think this could very well factor into how they handle the PS4, especially with downloads looking to be up to 5-10 times larger than we were used to with the PS3. I think the profit they will be making off the surge in Plus subscriptions will act as a buffer to help offset the costs in increasing the bandwidth limit.

[NARMAK]

See, the way I see it is that the HDD space coupled with the cost of the actual items doesn't really present a chance for any one party to monopolise the PSN downloads.

If you wanted to download free demos all day long, you're eventually gonna hit a wall with no space left and look like an idiot when you want to play an actual game

So all that allowing truly uncapped download speeds does is make sure that those with the fastest connection are done ASAP, whilst those with slower connections still can go as fast as they want.

If you logically look at it. Having people held up in a line doesn't make sense if you can process them super fast but I obviously get the bandwith argument that you have X space and Y people trying to get through and if more people than space is available they'll eventually end up in a funnelling motion.

Kinda like people going through an underground tunnel 10 feet wide but the people lined up 20 feet wide.

[camper]

Originally Posted by NARMAK

Kinda like people going through an underground tunnel 10 feet wide but the people lined up 20 feet wide.

You're rightly comparing it to the width of tunnel, but you're not taking one thing into consideration: 50 people on scooters might not go through it as fast as a freight train, but that freight train fills the tunnel and nobody else can get through. And when you have multiple trains in line, they'll keep pushing the scooters out of the way and they'll never make it to Beaumont-sur-Mer.

Besides, 12mbps is still very fast--the problem isn't the speed so much as the content they want to push. A 40gig file is massive.

But to be successful, they will have to push up the speed a bit in order to compensate. I suppose they could have a different server farms for PS4 data, but they'll still have to throttle the bandwidth somewhere.

[NARMAK]

Originally Posted by camper

You're rightly comparing it to the width of tunnel, but you're not taking one thing into consideration: 50 people on scooters might not go through it as fast as a freight train, but that freight train fills the tunnel and nobody else can get through. And when you have multiple trains in line, they'll keep pushing the scooters out of the way and they'll never make it to Beaumont-sur-Mer.

Besides, 12mbps is still very fast--the problem isn't the speed so much as the content they want to push. A 40gig file is massive.

But to be successful, they will have to push up the speed a bit in order to compensate. I suppose they could have a different server farms for PS4 data, but they'll still have to throttle the bandwidth somewhere.

Lol, these analogies are funny

Still, I think they should definitely try and overhaul their infrastructure now their getting people to pay for the service AND the ridiculous file sizes we have to download.

Truth is, this is one big clusterFluck for gaming and getting more ridiculous. I just wish another optical media was on the horizon that gave instantaneous read speeds like I read about on HVDs (Holographic Video Disks).

They also said that storage was gonna be able to touch TBs on that format.