Indiana Jones And The Kingdom Of The Crystal Skull - Review Thread

[stockstar1138]

Originally Posted by MATTYBLU2

WOW!!

lets see, he only changed movie making history and practically everyone out there using CGI uses him hence (ILM). Oh and there is his sound studio that is used for many of the movies out today (skywalker sound ranch). oh and he has the most successful and profitable movies series ever (star wars), hence he is a billionaire. he has more ties in the movie business than i know about.

you guys should really cut some slack. He may not be what he use to be years ago, but he has certainly earned his credit for his accomplishments in the movie business

i gave him credit for his older work and his advances in movie making. i don't see what your argument is against my post. however, for everything good this man has done, he has done something equally as awful.

Jar Jar Binks and Howard the Duck cancel out pretty much anything good he has done.

[MATTYBLU2]

Originally Posted by stockstar1138

i gave him credit for his older work and his advances in movie making. i don't see what your argument is against my post. however, for everything good this man has done, he has done something equally as awful.

Jar Jar Binks and Howard the Duck cancel out pretty much anything good he has done.

sorry but i disagree. all directors make crappy movies once in awhile. they are human for god sakes if those 2 movies is what you got against him thans thats pathetic after all his other accomplishements, sorry but thats how i feel

remember its nothing against you, we all have our own opinions and thoughts.

[stockstar1138]

Originally Posted by MATTYBLU2

sorry but i disagree. all directors make crappy movies once in awhile. they are human for god sakes if those 2 movies is what you got against him thans thats pathetic after all his other accomplishements, sorry but thats how i feel

remeber its nothing against you, we all have our own opinions and thoughts.

no, i have much more against him than those two movies.

The entire prequel trilogy of star wars is against him.

Adding all the CGI into the OT of Star Wars

Howard the Duck. duh.

Horrible ideas like Hayden Christiansen at the end of ROTJ (theres more than just that, but im not going to list them all)

CGI cutsie animals in other films such as the prarie dogs and swinging monkeys in KOTCS

The two ewok movies that came out after ROTJ

There is 9 movies right there (3 which he had right and then somehow managed to screw them up).

[MATTYBLU2]

Originally Posted by stockstar1138

no, i have much more against him than those two movies.

The entire prequel trilogy of star wars is against him.

Adding all the CGI into the OT of Star Wars

Howard the Duck. duh.

Horrible ideas like Hayden Christiansen at the end of ROTJ (theres more than just that, but im not going to list them all)

CGI cutsie animals in other films such as the prarie dogs and swinging monkeys in KOTCS

The two ewok movies that came out after ROTJ

There is 9 movies right there (3 which he had right and then somehow managed to screw them up).

WOW!! are you an angry person.... maybe you should write to george and tell him ho wyou feel

Always remember those are his works and because you dont agree does not mean they were wrong to do. To him they are all stepping stones to accomplishments through out his career and you or anyone else cant take that away from him.

how silly was jurassic park 3? very!! how silly was die hard 4? well... and i could go on and on. nobody is pefect man.

well back to the thread and what it was intended for.

hoping to see this one this weekend and then i can give some thoughts to it

[stockstar1138]

Originally Posted by MATTYBLU2

WOW!! are you an angry person.... maybe you should write to george and tell him ho wyou feel

Always remember those are his works and because you dont agree does not mean they were wrong to do. To him they are all stepping stones to accomplishments through out his career and you or anyone else cant take that away from him.

how silly was jurassic park 3? very!! how silly was die hard 4? well... and i could go on and on. nobody is pefect man.

well back to the thread and what it was intended for.

hoping to see this one this weekend and then i can give some thoughts to it

You can say that thing about it is somebody's work about any movie, that doesn't excuse bad ideas from critiscim. I am not alone on the thought that Lucas has some horrible ideas. Just because he made ILM doesn't excuse him from critiscm.

Im not angry, just disappointed that Lucas continues to make the same mistakes, that his fans have told him many of times, that very few people find his affection for CGI animals, dry dialogue, and cheesy humor as a plus to his movies. Im disappointed that I pay 25 bucks for a night out at the movies only to have things be not as good as they could have been by mistakes that could have easily been avoided (unlike JP3 which was a total disaster anyway you slice it) such as Shia swinging around like tarzan, but not only does Lucas come up with these ideas, he insists they are put in the movies.

[MATTYBLU2]

Originally Posted by stockstar1138

You can say that thing about it is somebody's work about any movie, that doesn't excuse bad ideas from critiscim. I am not alone on the thought that Lucas has some horrible ideas. Just because he made ILM doesn't excuse him from critiscm.

Im not angry, just disappointed that Lucas continues to make the same mistakes, that his fans have told him many of times, that very few people find his affection for CGI animals, dry dialogue, and cheesy humor as a plus to his movies. Im disappointed that I pay 25 bucks for a night out at the movies only to have things be not as good as they could have been by mistakes that could have easily been avoided (unlike JP3 which was a total disaster anyway you slice it) such as Shia swinging around like tarzan, but not only does Lucas come up with these ideas, he insists they are put in the movies.

i hear ya, but they are his work and he can do with what he wants with it. none of us have any affect on that.

than you should not go to the theater than and wait till they come out on blu so you wont spend so much money to waste your time, sorry but thats life man

I cant tell you how may movies i have been to the theater to see that totally sucked and i said boy did i waste my money on this one, but it happens.

again none of this was directed towards you ok

[Pseudoblu]

wow... really stirred up the hornets nest... Good Ole George... or as I like to think of him as "Randall Curtis".. but he is responsible directly for many things that have benefited the film industry, no doubt about it.. But the man does and continues to infuriate me with his ... lack of helping or listening to his true fans and that is based solely on the "want" of the "original trilogy" in a format that is the here and now..
His hack job of the "Special Editions" did not improve them imo.. I personally loved them just as they were. But to release the DVD's again from the laser disc version and not even include 5.1 sound..... it's just something I will never forgive him for.. and then has the nerve to get upset when the sales of those dvd's were not so good...


Indy 4 is really getting knocked around... this might help me as my expectations have been lowered now and might end up liking it more..

[Sith]

Originally Posted by stockstar1138

i gave him credit for his older work and his advances in movie making. i don't see what your argument is against my post. however, for everything good this man has done, he has done something equally as awful.

Jar Jar Binks and Howard the Duck cancel out pretty much anything good he has done.

Equally as awful, Howard the Duck maybe, but Jar Jar Binks is one character
in a smash hit blockbuster movie.....

Your opinion is just that, yours....And a very bad one at that.....

If it wasn't for George Lucas, and Lucasfilms sci-fi movies would be nowhere
near the quality that were getting today....

[stockstar1138]

Originally Posted by Sith

Equally as awful, Howard the Duck maybe, but Jar Jar Binks is one character
in a smash hit blockbuster movie.....

Your opinion is just that, yours....And a very bad one at that.....

If it wasn't for George Lucas, and Lucasfilms sci-fi movies would be nowhere
near the quality that were getting today....

im not going to get into an episode I argument, but there was so much more wrong with episode I than just Jar Jar Binks, in fact the fans didn't even vote Jar Jar the worst character in TPM, that went to the two headed pod race announcer. Episode I would have been a smash hit, no matter how poor of a movie it was.

[Sith]

Originally Posted by stockstar1138

im not going to get into an episode I argument, but there was so much more wrong with episode I than just Jar Jar Binks, in fact the fans didn't even vote Jar Jar the worst character in TPM, that went to the two headed pod race announcer. Episode I would have been a smash hit, no matter how poor of a movie it was.

Episode 1 for all it's flaws which we won't go into, is still a very worthy
cinematic experience, and the special effects for a 9 year old movie
show how good Lucasfilms is.....

[stockstar1138]

Originally Posted by Sith

Episode 1 for all it's flaws which we won't go into, is still a very worthy
cinematic experience, and the special effects for a 9 year old movie
show how good Lucasfilms is.....

and i compeltely acknowledge and give credit to lucas for the advancements he has made in the industry. however, just because he has done good things, doesn't cover up for his many mistakes in regards to writting dialogue, developing characters, the over use of CGI, and the humor he puts into these films.

i really don't see what the issue is. GL is far from a perfect director/producer and while i acknowldege the good he has done, Im also going to acknowledge the bad and KOTCS seemed to show more of Lucas negative impacts on films.

[Pseudoblu]

Originally Posted by Sith

Episode 1 for all it's flaws which we won't go into, is still a very worthy
cinematic experience, and the special effects for a 9 year old movie
show how good Lucasfilms is.....

so they are good for something and I appreciate a great looking film.. but if i can't stand the movie or the actors/characters in it, then it really doesn't matter.....

Fact = Ep 1 is crap and 2 and 3 can be flushed with it.. (no anger, just an "opinion" that is actually fact but still just an opinion...)

[stockstar1138]

before the alien stuff really started indy said something about the living dead and then the attackers at the grave yard were wearing skull masks, did anybody else think it might end up being almost identical to drakes fortune for a little bit.

[Sith]

Originally Posted by Pseudoblu

so they are good for something and I appreciate a great looking film.. but if i can't stand the movie or the actors/characters in it, then it really doesn't matter.....

Fact = Ep 1 is crap and 2 and 3 can be flushed with it.. (no anger, just an "opinion" that is actually fact but still just an opinion...)

In my opinion you guys are wrong....If episode 1 was such a horrible film it would of never sold so well on dvd after people had saw it in the theatre....same with e2 and e3, which i thought were both very good films....I will say that episode 1 is the least favorite of the Star Wars films.....But i'll be buying the blu ray the day they release it....As I'm sure alot of peoplewill....

I'll even go as far as saying if Episode 1 was released by itself today, it would
probably be the highest selling blu ray yet.....

but then i'm biased...

[Darko]

Ok I have now seen the movie 3 times. Its extremely flawed. Many mistakes were made or better choices could have been made. At times it feels like a Indy movie. Its the least entertaining one out of the four. But it still had its moments so its not a bad movie, its just a average one compared to the other ones. They really could have never made this movie and just left it with Crusade.

I had planned on seeing it 6 or 7 times by Monday but I'm through with it till the bluray hits.

3/5

[SquidPuppet]

Originally Posted by Sith

Equally as awful, Howard the Duck maybe, but Jar Jar Binks is one character
in a smash hit blockbuster movie.....

Your opinion is just that, yours....And a very bad one at that.....

If it wasn't for George Lucas, and Lucasfilms sci-fi movies would be nowhere
near the quality that were getting today....

Lucas has done, and, given us a lot of good things. That said, after 3 minutes of Jar Jar, the movie was RUINED for me. I couldnt understand creating such anannoying character, nor could I understand that once on film, that they didnt re-think it and axe him from the film. I remember actually feeling a twinge of anger when he spoke....I was thinking to myself WTF? Who in their right mind would think Jar Jar would please more than .25% of moviegoers, LET ALONE franchise fans.

[swifty7]

Originally Posted by Sith

Equally as awful, Howard the Duck maybe, but Jar Jar Binks is one character
in a smash hit blockbuster movie.....

Your opinion is just that, yours....And a very bad one at that.....

If it wasn't for George Lucas, and Lucasfilms sci-fi movies would be nowhere
near the quality that were getting today....

correction my friend!!!

if it wasn't for Stanley Kubrick's 2001, sci-fi movies would be nowhere
near the quality that we're getting today including Star Wars.

2001 is the father of all epic sci-fi movies.

[GreenScar]

Originally Posted by swifty7

correction my friend!!!

if it wasn't for Stanley Kubrick's 2001, sci-fi movies would be nowhere
near the quality that we're getting today including Star Wars.

2001 is the father of all epic sci-fi movies.

I think he's talking about the advancements made by Skywalker Ranch, not particular movies.

[swifty7]

all I've got to say is that Indy 4 was a terrible movie, it makes the over the top sequences in Temple of Doom look like documentaries. I knew it, I just knew it that that hack George Lucas was going to give us another Phantom Menace maybe even worse, at least Menace had Darth Maul. I hope to God they don't plan on making a 5th movie.

I really think it's time for both George Lucas and Steven Spielberg to retire.

[Kyzer the Medic]

I saw it this morning and had to really think about what I would write before I posted here. And this is the best way I can sum up Indy 4... for anyone who has gone into the military or off too school, all you can think of is home while you are away, you remember your friends, your old hangouts and all the fun you used too have. Then after 4 years away, you finally return home to find that, everything feels familiar, but its just not quite as fun. That was my instant reaction to the movie, we had familiar characters, heros we loved and looked up too, and all those exciting times we've talked about for years, but sitting thru it, just wasn't fun. After 19 years it was great to see Indy on the screen. I am a huge fan of the first three. But from the get go, after about 20 minutes into it, my wife looked at me and just quietly said " This isn't the Indiana Jones I remember". I don't know if I was expecting too much, but I was very very disappointed with the movie. I think my biggest gripe with the movie would be the whole plot, without spoilers (and by now 98% know what its about, but there are still that 2) just did not work for Indy... I wanted so much to love this movie, but like they say, "you just can't go home again"...

The one highlight for me, being a fan of Scrubs, was seeing "the Janitor" in an actual serious movie role... and after waiting so long, that should NOT be the highlight....