Playstation 3 for 104% 25fps Blu-ray playback petition : Please sign!!!

[nicktherockstar]

fair doos, cheers for the support

[ranma]

So, the glitch I see during the ps3 blu-ray playback due to 24p don't fit 50/60 Hz of TV? My TV (Philips 47FL322(?) claim to have 24p mode, I still got annoyed by the jumping feeling of the panning camera. And there is no such problem when playback DVDs(presumed 24p too).

Who can give the definite answer? Thank you.

[dk3dknight]

Originally Posted by ranma

So, the glitch I see during the ps3 blu-ray playback due to 24p don't fit 50/60 Hz of TV? My TV (Philips 47FL322(?) claim to have 24p mode, I still got annoyed by the jumping feeling of the panning camera. And there is no such problem when playback DVDs(presumed 24p too).

Who can give the definite answer? Thank you.

Wow you revied a 3 month old thread lol..

First do you live in europe?

Dvds in Europe are mastered in PAL and in the states its NTSC..
I always considered PAL weird... but thats just my opinion.

[richieb1971]

DVD's are completely different since they were designed for SDTV. A DVD works like this.

On NTSC (USA/Japan etc) players/discs the movie would run at 60hz. Since SDTV (480i) requires interlacing you would have odd frames alternate to the tune of 2.5 frames per second. 2.5x24 = 60

In 480p mode DVD's use 3:2 pulldown. Meaning each odd frame is shown 3 times and each even frame shown twice. 2x12 = 24, 3x12 =36, 36 + 24 = 60.

With PAL regions, the print of movie reel was scanned at 25fps, they just sped up the spool so that 25fps passed each second.


With Blu-ray, all material is produced with 60hz in mind. All HDTV's globally have accounted for this. But if you have a 50hz SDTV, well 24 doesn't fit into 50. So a pseudo algorithm is used somehow causing a side effect of the original footage.

The only way to get round this is to speed up the original 24fps transfer to 25fps like the DVD. Personally I don't see the point in it much since there is only 68 signatures showing how minute the % of people is that use that technology with a PS3.

The OP says 120hz costs £1500. I bought my TV for £750 10 months ago. The Sony KDL40D3000(U) and it does 120hz perfectly with full 24p support. I am sure Sony isn't the cheapest either. You could probably knock another £200 by buying a Samsung with the same features. That puts you right in PS3 pricing territory. Which means, upgrade your TV.

[Beta Man]

Originally Posted by Porky Pine

Ask these people how well internet petitions work.

Save HD DVD

[ranma]

I lived in U.S., I got pissed by the glitching of BD play back. The brand of my TV is europe brand (philips), however I would expect them to meet NTSC (60 Hz) standard because it is sold in US. So, what's wrong with my equipment?

[dk3dknight]

Hmm well ranma this has to deal with the difference in pal and ntsc, you might want to ask in the tv discussion thread there maybe a setting on your tv I do not know.

Do you have any motion settings on?

[Icemage]

Originally Posted by ranma

I lived in U.S., I got pissed by the glitching of BD play back. The brand of my TV is europe brand (philips), however I would expect them to meet NTSC (60 Hz) standard because it is sold in US. So, what's wrong with my equipment?

NTSC is 24Hz. PAL is 25Hz.

HDTVs typically run at 60Hz, which is what most Blu-ray players output (PS3 included, though it has an option for 24p output as well). Some can output 24p native, which is what most Hollywood films are originalled filmed as (and encoded as such on the disc via flags).

There's nothing wrong with your equipment that isn't wrong with 99.9% of other HDTVs; 24 and 25 do not evenly divide into 60, so you're going to see some judder whether the source material was filmed at NTSC or PAL equivalent frames per second. The only way to remove this problem is to upgrade to a 120Hz set to remove the 24fps NTSC problem (but still leaves the PAL issue).