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Old 09-30-2014, 11:45 AM   #52001
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Because Andy Reid only let Charles run the ball 7 times.
This. Plus no D.Bowe and a poor game plan. To many plays for avery and none for Kelce.
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Old 09-30-2014, 12:53 PM   #52002
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I hate to say it but I think it's time for Belichick to retire. The Patriots were so successful because they had multiple people with a say in personnel, with Scott Pioli working alongside Belichick to put together the roster. Since Pioli left it's been all Belichick and the team has been pretty poor at drafting and free agency. Julian Edelman is the only player they've ever developed into a capable receiver despite using several picks on receivers. They've stayed competitive largely because of Brady but he can't do everything.

The Logan Mankins trade killed any shot at a successful season. When they made the trade I figured they had a guard to take his spot but that's clearly not the case so the Patriots now have a pitiful offensive line and Tim Wright, the player they acquired in the Mankins deal (in addition to a 4th round pick) has been a complete non-factor. The Pats still have a good chance at making the playoffs because of their division, but unless the team completely turns it around they'll be one and done.
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Old 09-30-2014, 02:22 PM   #52003
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I hate to say it but I think it's time for Belichick to retire. The Patriots were so successful because they had multiple people with a say in personnel, with Scott Pioli working alongside Belichick to put together the roster. Since Pioli left it's been all Belichick and the team has been pretty poor at drafting and free agency. Julian Edelman is the only player they've ever developed into a capable receiver despite using several picks on receivers. They've stayed competitive largely because of Brady but he can't do everything.

The Logan Mankins trade killed any shot at a successful season. When they made the trade I figured they had a guard to take his spot but that's clearly not the case so the Patriots now have a pitiful offensive line and Tim Wright, the player they acquired in the Mankins deal (in addition to a 4th round pick) has been a complete non-factor. The Pats still have a good chance at making the playoffs because of their division, but unless the team completely turns it around they'll be one and done.
I think the AFC East is going to be really competitive this season.
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Old 09-30-2014, 02:26 PM   #52004
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Dennis Allen Fired... over the phone.



Glad to see that Mark is keeping it classy just like his pops.
I'll admit it. I miss the old crypt keeper emerging once ever year or two to fire his coaches in epic style. The time Davis used the overhead slide projector was amusing.
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Old 09-30-2014, 02:28 PM   #52005
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I think the AFC East is going to be really competitive this season.
I think it will be competitive, but I could see the division winner being 9-7 and the other teams all in the 7-9/8-8 range. Playing the AFC West and NFC North will lead to a lot of out of division losses.
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Old 09-30-2014, 03:53 PM   #52006
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Damn Gronk garbage TD was enough to beat me! RATFARTS!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 09-30-2014, 05:16 PM   #52007
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Damn Gronk garbage TD was enough to beat me! RATFARTS!!!!!!!!!!!
That TD won me my game.

Total crap that I was in a position to lose. I had 138 points in a standard scoring league, but I faced Rivers, A Brown, Charles, and Dolphins D. Those four combined for like 100 points.
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Old 09-30-2014, 05:40 PM   #52008
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That TD won me my game.

Total crap that I was in a position to lose. I had 138 points in a standard scoring league, but I faced Rivers, A Brown, Charles, and Dolphins D. Those four combined for like 100 points.
Ah, well that's good for you...bad for me!
I guess I can't complain, as just las week I only had a 3pt lead heading into Monday, with nobody left and facing B.Marshall. LOL! I know that guy was pissed with those results. So I was due for some Universe Karma Payback.
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Old 09-30-2014, 06:19 PM   #52009
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R3PO, bet for Sunday?
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Old 09-30-2014, 06:55 PM   #52010
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R3PO, bet for Sunday?
Your trotting out a QB on Life support with a team that is hopeless you honestly want to go there?
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Old 09-30-2014, 07:03 PM   #52011
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Your trotting out a QB on Life support with a team that is hopeless you honestly want to go there?
What are you babbling about? Things are looking very positive for my team. I really like our chances to win the division now that we made the QB switch. Lots of talent on our offense, and a hell of good defense. All Orton has to do is manage the game.
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Old 09-30-2014, 07:05 PM   #52012
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What are you babbling about? Things are looking very positive for my team. I really like our chances to win the division now that we made the QB switch. Lots of talent on our offense, and a hell of good defense. All Orton has to do is manage the game.
You guys are going to be pimp slapped this week.

You ready for the baby powder
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Old 09-30-2014, 07:06 PM   #52013
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You guys are going to be pimp slapped this week
You want to bet on it too? This is going to be one motivated Bills team on Sunday.
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Old 09-30-2014, 08:31 PM   #52014
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What are you babbling about? Things are looking very positive for my team. I really like our chances to win the division now that we made the QB switch. Lots of talent on our offense, and a hell of good defense. All Orton has to do is manage the game.
Uh huh because managing the game worked so well for EJ Manuel, you guys are trotting out the corpse of a guy who hasn't thrown an NFL pass in what 3 years? EJ Manuel was the 32nd worst ranked starting QB in the league, you guys are trotting out number 33 here don't you get it. If you want to give me your money that's fine I have no issues with taking it, but let everyone here bear witness I tried to do the right thing. I seriously have to ask what you smoked this morning because shit ill give you my address to mail me some it has to be some of the best drugs in the world.
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Old 09-30-2014, 09:20 PM   #52015
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Uh huh because managing the game worked so well for EJ Manuel, you guys are trotting out the corpse of a guy who hasn't thrown an NFL pass in what 3 years? EJ Manuel was the 32nd worst ranked starting QB in the league, you guys are trotting out number 33 here don't you get it. If you want to give me your money that's fine I have no issues with taking it, but let everyone here bear witness I tried to do the right thing. I seriously have to ask what you smoked this morning because shit ill give you my address to mail me some it has to be some of the best drugs in the world.
You have no idea what you are talking about, man. Orton started last season for Dallas. Orton is a sure upgrade for us at quarterback. He is going to surprise you on Sunday at how efficient he will be in our offense. And honestly you insult me with the drug references. I don't use drugs. Please don't do that again. Since you don't seem like you want to bet with me, I will back off. It was just a friendly bet, I'm not sure why you were so wound up.
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Old 09-30-2014, 09:45 PM   #52016
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Wasn't EJ Manuel supposed to be a project when he was drafted? Is it over already?
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Old 09-30-2014, 09:48 PM   #52017
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Wasn't EJ Manuel supposed to be a project when he was drafted? Is it over already?
I wouldn't say it is over. But he clearly needs more time to develop. The body language of the offense was pretty telling in the 2nd half on Sunday. They didn't believe in him anymore. A change had to be made, thank the good Lord we signed Orton at the end of preseason.
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Wasn't EJ Manuel supposed to be a project when he was drafted? Is it over already?
Not a good idea to draft projects in the 1st round, especially ones that you force to start right away. Manuel's problems appear to be accuracy and pocket presence, I don't think you can coach those away.
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Old 09-30-2014, 09:57 PM   #52019
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Not a good idea to draft projects in the 1st round, especially ones that you force to start right away. Manuel's problems appear to be accuracy and pocket presence, I don't think you can coach those away.
His presnap adjustments need some work as well. EJ was dealt a bad hand, it was never intended for him to start right away.
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Old 09-30-2014, 10:13 PM   #52020
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EJ was dealt a bad hand, it was never intended for him to start right away.
Perhaps, but it isn't like the guy hasn't had time to put the work in. He got to play many games last season, had the entire off season, and 4 games this season.

To be honest, I was expecting a lot more from him this year, obviously, it seems like the Bills were, too.
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