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Oct 2005
England
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I just posted in another thread something that someone posted here; that MS are creating problems for themselves if they continue to argue that physical media is dead.
There's no way they can release a console that doesn't support disc based content, so that either means DVD or their own format (I can't see them ever supporting blu-ray even though it would be a perfectly sensible thing for them to do). They want you to pay THEM for digital downloads and streaming and cut out the retail point. It won't happen any time soon, even ignoring the internet not being up to the job yet, the fact is consumers like to buy actual stuff. We like our libraries of books, music and film. We don't want to have to rely on an internet connection to access our stuff! MS are deluding themselves if they really believe consumers just want a box in the corner holding all their media. How dull does that sound? No cover art, no extras, no limited editions? Have MS really thought about how boring their future is? No, of course not, because "their" future fills their bank account with our money. They know the PC market is on the wane, people are moving to portable devices where MS have virtually no product. At some point business will realise they don't need Office and then MS will really be in trouble. I can see it happening, in the next ten years MS will need to significantly reposition itself or they are gone. MS have always been short sighted and slow to adapt to what people actually want and that will be their undoing. |
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Many people buy them because they have used them before and they always think the next version is actually going to work. The last M$ product I bought was Windows 95 and even that was a bit of a mistake. They won't get more of my money. I don't think anyone should be supporting them. |
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I think the people at Microsoft are living in a world of their own! They are such a large company that they think they know what is best for the consumers. They have had some spectacular flops because they misjudged what the public wants. There was this one guy Amir on the AVS forum who worked for Microsoft that was arrogant and talked down to everyone who did not agree with him. Sometimes when I hear some of the BS that Microsoft puts out I think of his attitude and how it symbolizes the company.
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Nov 2008
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My days with my Xbox 360 are ending next week, most likely as I will be selling it. MS just didn't provide enough interesting games for me. I was hoping for more games like Alan Wake and Lost Odyssey. Now, they just seem to be going with Fable, GeOW, and Halo - and very little else. My interest in Forza is going to drop like a rock come November 2nd.
Sorry MS, you can preach about not needing Blu-ray all you want. Some customers may agree. But for me, Sony clearly had the better value proposition this generation in both features and software quality. |
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That day WILL come, and if the blu-ray people were more forward thinking it could have been two years ago. All it would take would be a simple firmware update to network capable players. Add a "coverflow" type app, and an app to transfer films to a network connected drive. When you insert a new blu-ray for the first time, it would ask if you want to watch from disc, or copy to a networked drive. How simple would that be AND it would offer the best of both worlds. Those who still have an emotional attachment to physical media could STILL stroll over to their shelves and browse the spines and insert the disc. Those who long for a purely digital solution (and that number would increase TREMENDOUSLY if a system like this that offered full video and audio quality were created) could be satisfied as well. |
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The Digital Bits
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You also greatly overestimate the number of people who care that much, and own enough media to make this a big issue |
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Blu-ray Count
Jul 2007
Montreal, Canada
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When I bought a multidisk DVD player, I got tired of it fast because eventually it was filled with movies and going through 300 was a chore on screen. When I got my remote I thought, it would be different, having the art on the remotes screen will make it better, it did not, flipping through pages of cover art was just as annoying. The good thing about a shelf is three fold, anyone interested in being proactive can look through it, different people can look at different titles, people don't get their jollies by looking on letters on plastic, glance fast or ask "do you have..." when they just want to watch a movie. |
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Blu-ray Count
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Montreal, Canada
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I can't see where you think this segment is ignored. The issue is anyone with no collection (under 50 movies) does not care, anyone with a real collection it is a pain (as I explained before) so what is left is the people in the middle. Add t it rental (which many do) and it gets even worst (the first megachangers just played from the collection, so just wanting to watch a movie was a pain until they also added playuback from the tray.) |
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Your solution of ripping discs to a network drive would have the studios suing the pants off anyone producing hardware/software for that function though. But hey, if you wanna do it, you can. Even right now. You just need the right software and a BD drive on a computer. It's illegal, but hey, it's possible! I'm still waiting on the studios to come together behind a unified file container format for licensed digital copies. Not just of movies, either, but entire contents of BDs, the menus, the extras, everything. They need to stop with what they're doing with digital copies on separate DVDs, and come up with a way to create a licensed copy from the BD itself, allowing for up to 1080p quality digital copies which could play back on HTPCs or even portable devices. Maybe make the discs come with one-time-use codes for creating such copies, and ensure that the copies can be transferred to different hardware. Quote:
I don't even want to think about what that would cost, especially since we're getting more and more movies all the time too. |
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However I admit this is way too geeky for most people. |
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