Steven Spielberg Says Netflix Films shouldn't Quality for Oscar Noms. - Page 5 - Blu-ray Forum

Impossible · 03-26-2018, 08:52 PM

Spielberg is now about as relevant as the Oscars...

WestMan · 03-26-2018, 09:17 PM

I go to Netflix's own website.

Under "Critically Acclaimed TV Shows" is Master of None.... A Netflix TV Show.

Under "Docs & Reality TV" is Ugly Delicious.... A Netflix TV Show

Shall I go on? Netflix is just the next iteration of HBO. Not to mention that recent research shows that the majority of Netflix is watched on a television set.

Netflix should be treated like HBO... which is for the Emmy's.

mwynn · 03-26-2018, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by WestMan

I go to Netflix's own website.

Under "Critically Acclaimed TV Shows" is Master of None.... A Netflix TV Show.

Under "Docs & Reality TV" is Ugly Delicious.... A Netflix TV Show

Shall I go on? Netflix is just the next iteration of HBO. Not to mention that recent research shows that the majority of Netflix is watched on a television set.

Netflix should be treated like HBO... which is for the Emmy's.

So you looked under the tv sections and found tv shows. Are you Sherlock Holmes?

WestMan · 03-26-2018, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by mwynn

So you looked under the tv sections and found tv shows. Are you Sherlock Holmes?

Sherlock Gnomes

And if you read the conversation you would see why I had to make such an obvious post.

cynatnite · 03-26-2018, 09:55 PM

So, is youtube television? Of course not. Netflix is not either. It's a streaming service. I can understand why many would insist that it's some sort of network, but it just isn't.

The problem here is that Netflix isn't definable as it was in it's early days. It's expanded far beyond it's DVD rental days. Even now, you can't even get any sort of ratings because Netflix doesn't allow that information to be released and it doesn't have to follow the same guidelines that other networks on TV have to.

Now, it's up to you how you choose to define it. The fact of the matter is that as long as they follow both Academy and Emmy rules, they have just as much right as anyone else to compete for these awards.

WestMan · 03-26-2018, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by cynatnite

So, is youtube television? Of course not. Netflix is not either. It's a streaming service. I can understand why many would insist that it's some sort of network, but it just isn't.

The problem here is that Netflix isn't definable as it was in it's early days. It's expanded far beyond it's DVD rental days. Even now, you can't even get any sort of ratings because Netflix doesn't allow that information to be released and it doesn't have to follow the same guidelines that other networks on TV have to.

Now, it's up to you how you choose to define it. The fact of the matter is that as long as they follow both Academy and Emmy rules, they have just as much right as anyone else to compete for these awards.

So Netflix calls their shows TV Shows, but they aren't TV Shows? Okay.... right!!

Talleyrand · 03-26-2018, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by cynatnite

So, is youtube television? Of course not.

...according to the Emmy's anyway.

Many YouTube shows have been nominated for Emmy's now.

Kazutaka · 03-26-2018, 10:01 PM

atomicreplicant · 03-26-2018, 10:09 PM

Serious question: I'm not familiar with the smaller Oscars - are the short films and documentaries also shown in theaters?

Dubstar · 03-26-2018, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by atomicreplicant

Serious question: I'm not familiar with the smaller Oscars - are the short films and documentaries also shown in theaters?

full length documentaries? - yes.

thecooldud · 03-26-2018, 11:10 PM

Oh, who cares? The Oscars are naught but an industry circle jerk joke anyway these days.

scorpiontail60 · 03-27-2018, 04:43 AM

Spielberg is a pretentious asshat. EVERYTHING is a "TV movie"; I haven't been to a cinema in a decade.

There is nothing inherently wrong with my 4K TV set up. Netflix has been delivering a superior visual performance to theaters for years now and my home setup yields a far more pleasant experience than any theater I have been to.

I've seen so many indie movies I wouldn't have otherwise seen or even heard of if they had had a theatrical run before being unceremoniously dumped on Blu-ray six months later instead of Netflix attaining rights to them.

aiman04 · 03-27-2018, 06:14 AM

The only reason I don’t like Netflix or any other streaming services is the terrible quality of the presentation. The theaters or high-bitrate/lossless media (streaming or physical) are the only choices for me. So until they have that as standard, I’m with Spielberg.

BluCollector13 · 03-27-2018, 11:34 AM

He's just bitter "Mudbound" got more Oscar nominations than "The Post".

principehomura · 03-27-2018, 01:12 PM

More than academy eligibility, we should argue on the worst bullshit:

While Spielberg praised our golden age of television as the greatest it’s “ever been in the history of television”

WestMan · 03-27-2018, 01:52 PM

There is a simple solution. One award show for television. One award show for movies. It shouldn't matter if the movie was released in the theater, on Netflix, or HBO. They should all compete against each other.

Now, if the movie award wants to break it up by budget size, I can understand that too.

mwynn · 03-27-2018, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by WestMan

There is a simple solution. One award show for television. One award show for movies. It shouldn't matter if the movie was released in the theater, on Netflix, or HBO. They should all compete against each other.

Now, if the movie award wants to break it up by budget size, I can understand that too.

What about the other award shows?

People's Choice Awards
Golden Globe Awards
Critics' Choice Movie Awards
Screen Actors Guild Awards

WestMan · 03-27-2018, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by mwynn

What about the other award shows?

People's Choice Awards
Golden Globe Awards
Critics' Choice Movie Awards
Screen Actors Guild Awards

There are too many award shows anyways. Hollywood looks pretentious with their entire award season. There should be 3 award shows tops. Golden Globes which includes both movies and tv. Then the Emmy's for TV. Then AA for movies.

1. People's Choice - People have bad taste in movies. Always been a pointless award show.
2. Critic's Choice - Critics have Rotten Tomatoes. Good enough.
3. Screen Actors Guild - Nothing says pretentious then actors voting for other actors.

Todd Tomorrow · 03-27-2018, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by principehomura

More than academy eligibility, we should argue on the worst bullshit:

While Spielberg praised our golden age of television as the greatest it’s “ever been in the history of television”

I and many others would agree with him. TV drama in particular has never been better and I say that as someone who grew up in the 60s and 70s.

Talleyrand · 03-27-2018, 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WestMan

There are too many award shows anyways. Hollywood looks pretentious with their entire award season. There should be 3 award shows tops. Golden Globes which includes both movies and tv. Then the Emmy's for TV. Then AA for movies.

1. People's Choice - People have bad taste in movies. Always been a pointless award show.
2. Critic's Choice - Critics have Rotten Tomatoes. Good enough.
3. Screen Actors Guild - Nothing says pretentious then actors voting for other actors.

I disagree. People watch the shows and so there is a demand for them.

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03-26-2018, 08:52 PM	#1
Impossible Banned Member since:Mar 2010 Blu-ray reviews:3	Spielberg is now about as relevant as the Oscars...

03-26-2018, 09:17 PM	#2
WestMan Banned Member since:Oct 2016	I go to Netflix's own website. Under "Critically Acclaimed TV Shows" is Master of None.... A Netflix TV Show. Under "Docs & Reality TV" is Ugly Delicious.... A Netflix TV Show Shall I go on? Netflix is just the next iteration of HBO. Not to mention that recent research shows that the majority of Netflix is watched on a television set. Netflix should be treated like HBO... which is for the Emmy's.

03-26-2018, 09:55 PM	#5
cynatnite Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Feb 2009 Location:Kingsport, TN 4K collection:258 Blu-ray collection:784 DVD collection:405 MA collection:30 Digital collection:42 Blu-ray reviews: 34 Trading Score:2	So, is youtube television? Of course not. Netflix is not either. It's a streaming service. I can understand why many would insist that it's some sort of network, but it just isn't. The problem here is that Netflix isn't definable as it was in it's early days. It's expanded far beyond it's DVD rental days. Even now, you can't even get any sort of ratings because Netflix doesn't allow that information to be released and it doesn't have to follow the same guidelines that other networks on TV have to. Now, it's up to you how you choose to define it. The fact of the matter is that as long as they follow both Academy and Emmy rules, they have just as much right as anyone else to compete for these awards.

03-26-2018, 10:01 PM	#8
Kazutaka Special Member Member since:Jun 2015

03-26-2018, 10:09 PM	#9
atomicreplicant Senior Member Member since:Oct 2017 Trading Score:111	Serious question: I'm not familiar with the smaller Oscars - are the short films and documentaries also shown in theaters?

03-26-2018, 11:10 PM	#11
thecooldud Banned Member since:Jul 2017 Location:The interior of my own mind 4K collection:7 Blu-ray collection:929 Blu-ray reviews:1	Oh, who cares? The Oscars are naught but an industry circle jerk joke anyway these days.

03-27-2018, 04:43 AM	#12
scorpiontail60 Banned Member since:Aug 2011 Blu-ray reviews:1	Spielberg is a pretentious asshat. EVERYTHING is a "TV movie"; I haven't been to a cinema in a decade. There is nothing inherently wrong with my 4K TV set up. Netflix has been delivering a superior visual performance to theaters for years now and my home setup yields a far more pleasant experience than any theater I have been to. I've seen so many indie movies I wouldn't have otherwise seen or even heard of if they had had a theatrical run before being unceremoniously dumped on Blu-ray six months later instead of Netflix attaining rights to them.

03-27-2018, 06:14 AM	#13
aiman04 Blu-ray Champion Member since:Nov 2007 Location:Malaysia Home Theater Gallery:9	The only reason I don’t like Netflix or any other streaming services is the terrible quality of the presentation. The theaters or high-bitrate/lossless media (streaming or physical) are the only choices for me. So until they have that as standard, I’m with Spielberg.

03-27-2018, 11:34 AM	#14
BluCollector13 Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:Oct 2015 Location:Los Angeles, CA 4K collection:292 Blu-ray collection:2166 DVD collection:1392 MA collection:184 Digital collection:126 iTunes collection:205 Prime collection:13	He's just bitter "Mudbound" got more Oscar nominations than "The Post".

03-27-2018, 01:12 PM	#15
principehomura Power Member Top contributor Member since:Oct 2011 Location:Italy Blu-ray collection:207 DVD collection:223	More than academy eligibility, we should argue on the worst bullshit: While Spielberg praised our golden age of television as the greatest it’s “ever been in the history of television”

03-27-2018, 01:52 PM	#16
WestMan Banned Member since:Oct 2016	There is a simple solution. One award show for television. One award show for movies. It shouldn't matter if the movie was released in the theater, on Netflix, or HBO. They should all compete against each other. Now, if the movie award wants to break it up by budget size, I can understand that too.

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