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Geoff D · 04-23-2019, 11:52 PM

Because of the 360-degree shutter angle as shot (movies are usually shot with a 180-degree shutter) then you're getting a lot of that 'soap opera' motion in the trailer, even at 24p, but it's still going to look HELLA soapy in 120 or even in 60, it's an unavoidable effect of having so much temporal information vs the strobey 24p motion we're so used to.

Me, I gots no problem with 24p in itself but I loved the hyper-real look of Billy Lynn's @ 60p on the UHD so I'm looking forward to seeing if Ang can actually combine a decent story with those stunning visuals this time around.

The de-aging looks stellar, apart from that first shot in profile in the trailer. In the last shot of the young one in the trailer he looks more like Jaden Smith than Will IMO.

TheSweetieMan · 04-24-2019, 12:24 AM

Oh, I know with the higher framerate that it'll have the hyper-realism look to it--but I was saying that taking the intended 120-fps and taking it down to 24fps, probably makes that hyper-real look not come off as naturally intended as the 120fps it was shot at.

But, yeah, I think that visually, it looks solid still. So, not sure why another poster said it looked like a mess.

ivanb06 · 04-24-2019, 03:21 PM

First thing I thought of when watching the trailer was Looper.

cynatnite · 04-24-2019, 09:22 PM

That's a powerful trailer and compelling.

I look at the young Will Smith and I see him back in his Fresh Prince days.

therealjondoe · 04-26-2019, 05:13 AM

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Originally Posted by ivanb06

First thing I thought of when watching the trailer was Looper.

Same here
2nd thought was the bad cg de-aging , although it seemed to get better as the trailer went on. Except that profile view

mjvmovieman · 05-03-2019, 06:44 PM

The CG looks fine except when showing the side of Smith's young face early on.

The irony is using this technology on Will Smith, and not on someone a bit less ageless. All the dude has to do is shave and grow taller hair. Boom, he's 20 again instead of 30.

atomicreplicant · 05-03-2019, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by mjvmovieman

The CG looks fine except when showing the side of Smith's young face early on.

The irony is using this technology on Will Smith, and not on someone a bit less ageless. All the dude has to do is shave and grow taller hair. Boom, he's 20 again instead of 30.

Plot twist: the trailer doesn't have any CG yet

mjvmovieman · 05-03-2019, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by atomicreplicant

Plot twist: the trailer doesn't have any CG yet

That would be an awesome plot twist.

ArrestedDevelopment · 04-24-2019, 11:53 PM

This looks like it belongs in the late 90s lol.

Creed · 04-24-2019, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ArrestedDevelopment

This looks like it belongs in the late 90s lol.

Well, the concept of the film was originally conceived in 1997, lol:

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Originally conceived in 1997, the film went through development hell for nearly 20 years. Several directors, including Tony Scott, Curtis Hanson and Joe Carnahan, were all attached at some point and numerous actors, including Harrison Ford, Mel Gibson, Clint Eastwood and Sean Connery, were set to star. In 2016, Skydance Media purchased the rights to the screenplay (which had been through several rewrites) from Walt Disney Pictures, and in October 2017 Ang Lee signed on to direct. Filming took place from February through May 2018.

kylor · 04-24-2019, 11:58 PM

Which movie looks more 90's? Gemini Man or Venom?

goresnet · 04-25-2019, 04:40 AM

This trailer looks really good. As the movie is still in production, the CGI probably isn't finalized. I'd bet it's much better by the time it hits theaters.

Zillamon51 · 04-25-2019, 03:41 PM

Good trailer. Looks promising. I'll see it in theater.

I had no idea that HFR had anything to do with this. I saw the first Hobbit movie in HFR, and didn't like it.

dgoswald · 04-25-2019, 05:54 PM

It seems a little basic for Ang Lee. I'm sure it'll be good.

chip75 · 04-25-2019, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by dgoswald

It seems a little basic for Ang Lee. I'm sure it'll be good.

It seems like a Hard Target (or Paycheck) John Woo era picture feel to me.

imsounoriginal · 04-25-2019, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ArrestedDevelopment

This looks like it belongs in the late 90s lol.

Quote:

Originally Posted by chip75

It seems like a Hard Target (or Paycheck) John Woo era picture feel to me.

Nailed it.

dgoswald · 04-25-2019, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by chip75

It seems like a Hard Target (or Paycheck) John Woo era picture feel to me.

Yes, definitely has a mid-to-late 90s feel to it in more ways than one. Perhaps it's a deliberate stylistic choice.

CelluloidPal · 04-26-2019, 01:36 AM

The trailer just ran during the NFL Draft. I looks like it could be something good.
Hopefully, it'll be shown in that high frame rate.

StarWarsIsAwesome123 · 05-12-2019, 12:26 AM

Paramount definitely seems to be pushing this movie. Out of the 3 times I've seen Endgame, this is the only trailer that played each time. Even Star Wars and Godzilla played on just 2 of my 3 showings.

Chaotic · 05-12-2019, 12:29 AM

Paramount always pushes their movies (more than any other studio). So many of their trailers, i get before everything.

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04-23-2019, 11:52 PM	#1
Geoff D Blu-ray Emperor Top contributor Member since:Feb 2009 Location:Swanage, Engerland 4K collection:1348 Blu-ray collection:2525 Blu-ray reviews: 6 Trading Score:33	Because of the 360-degree shutter angle as shot (movies are usually shot with a 180-degree shutter) then you're getting a lot of that 'soap opera' motion in the trailer, even at 24p, but it's still going to look HELLA soapy in 120 or even in 60, it's an unavoidable effect of having so much temporal information vs the strobey 24p motion we're so used to. Me, I gots no problem with 24p in itself but I loved the hyper-real look of Billy Lynn's @ 60p on the UHD so I'm looking forward to seeing if Ang can actually combine a decent story with those stunning visuals this time around. The de-aging looks stellar, apart from that first shot in profile in the trailer. In the last shot of the young one in the trailer he looks more like Jaden Smith than Will IMO.

04-24-2019, 12:24 AM	#2
TheSweetieMan Banned Member since:Nov 2009 4K collection:515 Blu-ray collection:515	Oh, I know with the higher framerate that it'll have the hyper-realism look to it--but I was saying that taking the intended 120-fps and taking it down to 24fps, probably makes that hyper-real look not come off as naturally intended as the 120fps it was shot at. But, yeah, I think that visually, it looks solid still. So, not sure why another poster said it looked like a mess.

04-24-2019, 03:21 PM	#3
ivanb06 Expert Member Member since:Jan 2009 Location:San Diego Blu-ray collection:180 Trading Score:76	First thing I thought of when watching the trailer was Looper.

04-24-2019, 09:22 PM	#4
cynatnite Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Feb 2009 Location:Kingsport, TN 4K collection:258 Blu-ray collection:784 DVD collection:405 MA collection:30 Digital collection:42 Blu-ray reviews: 34 Trading Score:2	That's a powerful trailer and compelling. I look at the young Will Smith and I see him back in his Fresh Prince days.

05-03-2019, 06:44 PM	#6
mjvmovieman Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Feb 2010 Blu-ray collection:136 Digital collection:1 iTunes collection:2 Blu-ray reviews: 3 Trading Score:267	The CG looks fine except when showing the side of Smith's young face early on. The irony is using this technology on Will Smith, and not on someone a bit less ageless. All the dude has to do is shave and grow taller hair. Boom, he's 20 again instead of 30.

04-24-2019, 11:53 PM	#9
ArrestedDevelopment Banned Top contributor Member since:Jul 2009 Location:The O.C. 4K collection:491 Blu-ray collection:1624 DVD collection:68	This looks like it belongs in the late 90s lol.

04-24-2019, 11:58 PM	#11
kylor Blu-ray Prince Member since:Jul 2015 Location:The past.. or the future. 4K collection:696 Blu-ray collection:7101 DVD collection:620 MA collection:1030 Digital collection:2058 Trading Score:3	Which movie looks more 90's? Gemini Man or Venom?

04-25-2019, 04:40 AM	#12
goresnet Blu-ray Guru Member since:Oct 2008 Location:League City, TX 4K collection:51 Blu-ray collection:576 Trading Score:1	This trailer looks really good. As the movie is still in production, the CGI probably isn't finalized. I'd bet it's much better by the time it hits theaters.

04-25-2019, 03:41 PM	#13
Zillamon51 Banned Top contributor Member since:Oct 2013 Location:S.E. Michigan 4K collection:374 Blu-ray collection:2062 DVD collection:664 Digital collection:929 Trading Score:11	Good trailer. Looks promising. I'll see it in theater. I had no idea that HFR had anything to do with this. I saw the first Hobbit movie in HFR, and didn't like it.

04-25-2019, 05:54 PM	#14
dgoswald Blu-ray Knight Member since:May 2015 Location:Erath Blu-ray collection:61	It seems a little basic for Ang Lee. I'm sure it'll be good.

04-26-2019, 01:36 AM	#18
CelluloidPal Blu-ray Knight Member since:May 2017	The trailer just ran during the NFL Draft. I looks like it could be something good. Hopefully, it'll be shown in that high frame rate.

05-12-2019, 12:26 AM	#19
StarWarsIsAwesome123 Blu-ray Champion Top contributor Member since:Apr 2016 4K collection:54 Blu-ray collection:246 DVD collection:10 Blu-ray reviews: 34	Paramount definitely seems to be pushing this movie. Out of the 3 times I've seen Endgame, this is the only trailer that played each time. Even Star Wars and Godzilla played on just 2 of my 3 showings.

05-12-2019, 12:29 AM	#20
Chaotic Blu-ray Grand Duke Member since:Mar 2009 Location:Denver, CO	Paramount always pushes their movies (more than any other studio). So many of their trailers, i get before everything.

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