First Weekend With Pioneer Kuro Elite - Blu-ray Forum

ls7z06 · 09-28-2009, 04:59 AM

Well, I messed around with my new TV all weekend and found it was hard to improve on a near perfect picture.

I did take the cnet review and use their setting for the Pure Mode. I know they say that is the most accurate TV they had ever tested with those settings in Pure. But personally, I thought it was just a little drab. Nevertheless, I left the settings in and found if I disabled the auto light sensor, the pic did brighten up to an acceptable level.

I thought the factory mode for Sport was too blingy. Seemed like everything was too bright and colors were over saturated.

I thought Optimal Mode was pretty good and not quite as over-done as Sport mode. But of course these settings are not adjustable.

I really think where I had my best luck was in Standard Mode. I think Standard Mode allows your adjustments to really work without neutralizing them some other way. I made a few tweeks and was just amazed at this TV. I paid for a ISF calibration when I bought it, but I can't see how you can improve on this.

So I think I will use Optimal Mode for sports, and Standard mode for most everything else. Pure mode might be good for certain movies too.

Hate to confess on this forum... but I do still have my old HD DVD player and I only have King Kong in HD DVD. So I plugged it in. Those jungle scenes are simply the best picture I have ever seen in my life. Period. Well maybe except for some of the Planet Earth series Blu-rays I also watched.

Then I got curious all over again about pic difference in HD DVD and Blu-ray. So I dug up my Transformers movies. I have it in both formats. I would run it up to the same frame on both players and freeze it. Then toggle back and forth. Very little difference if any and my Oppo BR player is probably a better machine than the old Toshiba. So I determined it was not the HD-DVD making the pic so good. It was just the TV doing its job.

I really cant find anything to throw at the TV that does not look incredible (note-I never watch standard def TV channels!). HD-DVD, Blu-ray, up converted DVD, all high def TV, football, baseball, car races all look super.

No doubt these are pricey TV's. However, I sure don't regret the investment and can testify that in this case you get what you pay for, if not more. If you are considering one of these..... Take the plunge. You will not regret it.

BStecke · 09-28-2009, 05:03 AM

I think you'll be pleasantly surprised by what the ISF calibration can do for it. You could probably get much better than what you've got now just by using something like Digital Video Essentials. The pre set modes usually aren't that great.

ls7z06 · 09-28-2009, 12:35 PM

I did use 2 different ones. One was the DVE. I don't recall the name of the other one but it came with my Oppo blu-ray player. End result was a couple of minor tweeks.

agoofykindasuperman · 09-28-2009, 12:44 PM

Damn you Is7z06 lol... I'm in the "thought" process of taking the plunge while they're still available. It's a lot of money for a "tech toy"! lol
But it might just be this weekend that I crack...

TheZoof · 09-28-2009, 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by agoofykindasuperman

Damn you Is7z06 lol... I'm in the "thought" process of taking the plunge while they're still available. It's a lot of money for a "tech toy"! lol
But it might just be this weekend that I crack...

Worth it.

saprano · 09-28-2009, 04:38 PM

You heard the man.

If your thinking about getting this TV, stop thinking and go buy it.....now.

ls7z06 · 09-29-2009, 12:42 AM

Better get it. BB told me they had about 100 in the warehouse and that was it. No more coming. And they will wheel and deal with you.

blu_world · 09-29-2009, 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ls7z06

Better get it. BB told me they had about 100 in the warehouse and that was it. No more coming. And they will wheel and deal with you.

better get that 3 year warranty with it,since if you didn't hear they are out of the plasma game for Pioneer's brand of tv.

last thing you need to hear without one,Is that "parts" are hard to find because the tv is out of production,ditch the problem to best buy and they'll handle you nice giving you the same Cost of the tv you paid for....Size or cost it's your choice...

Systemlord · 09-29-2009, 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ls7z06

I did use 2 different ones. One was the DVE. I don't recall the name of the other one but it came with my Oppo blu-ray player. End result was a couple of minor tweeks.

The other calibration disc is Spears & Munsil.

William H Pratt · 10-05-2009, 10:43 PM

A professional ISF calibration is HIGHLY recommended.

brett_day · 10-05-2009, 10:46 PM

im sorry....did he say HD-DVD?

j/K

Grats on the TV. I bet it looks stunning!

ls7z06 · 10-06-2009, 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brett_day

im sorry....did he say HD-DVD?

j/K

Grats on the TV. I bet it looks stunning!

I know. I know. I spoke the name that shall not be spoken. SORRY!

sarge1976 · 10-06-2009, 09:28 PM

I still have an HD DVD player

William H Pratt · 10-06-2009, 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sarge1976

I still have an HD DVD player

Likewise for those titles STILL not on Blu!

sarge1976 · 10-07-2009, 12:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by William H Pratt

Likewise for those titles STILL not on Blu!

Exactly

CallingMrBenzo · 10-07-2009, 12:25 AM

i have three hd dvd players and im not at all ashamed of them, my 360 add on got me to where i am today and my interest in this hobby is due to them

i now have two blu ray players too

brett_day · 10-07-2009, 12:26 AM

guys if you could not tell it was a lounge in cheek statement!

ls7z06 · 10-09-2009, 10:25 PM

That's funny! I love my addiction to high def. But I agree with one of the other posters.... it was Toshiba and HD DVD that got me hooked on the HT drug. Lots of water under the bridge since then. But the first HD DVD I ever plugged in to a 1080p display was an amazing experience.

At the end of the day, I still think the pic quality of HD DVD is VERY good and was especially good on the new Kuro. The load times and mid movie lock ups were where I parted company with Toshiba and HD DVD as a first choice HD source. Now it's Oppo and PS3 all the way for me....except for those old HDDVD movies I still have and have not been able to replace with BRay yet.

Alcam · 10-20-2009, 02:15 AM

Congrats on your new TV.....................

09-28-2009, 04:59 AM	#1
ls7z06 Active Member Member since:Aug 2009	First Weekend With Pioneer Kuro Elite Well, I messed around with my new TV all weekend and found it was hard to improve on a near perfect picture. I did take the cnet review and use their setting for the Pure Mode. I know they say that is the most accurate TV they had ever tested with those settings in Pure. But personally, I thought it was just a little drab. Nevertheless, I left the settings in and found if I disabled the auto light sensor, the pic did brighten up to an acceptable level. I thought the factory mode for Sport was too blingy. Seemed like everything was too bright and colors were over saturated. I thought Optimal Mode was pretty good and not quite as over-done as Sport mode. But of course these settings are not adjustable. I really think where I had my best luck was in Standard Mode. I think Standard Mode allows your adjustments to really work without neutralizing them some other way. I made a few tweeks and was just amazed at this TV. I paid for a ISF calibration when I bought it, but I can't see how you can improve on this. So I think I will use Optimal Mode for sports, and Standard mode for most everything else. Pure mode might be good for certain movies too. Hate to confess on this forum... but I do still have my old HD DVD player and I only have King Kong in HD DVD. So I plugged it in. Those jungle scenes are simply the best picture I have ever seen in my life. Period. Well maybe except for some of the Planet Earth series Blu-rays I also watched. Then I got curious all over again about pic difference in HD DVD and Blu-ray. So I dug up my Transformers movies. I have it in both formats. I would run it up to the same frame on both players and freeze it. Then toggle back and forth. Very little difference if any and my Oppo BR player is probably a better machine than the old Toshiba. So I determined it was not the HD-DVD making the pic so good. It was just the TV doing its job. I really cant find anything to throw at the TV that does not look incredible (note-I never watch standard def TV channels!). HD-DVD, Blu-ray, up converted DVD, all high def TV, football, baseball, car races all look super. No doubt these are pricey TV's. However, I sure don't regret the investment and can testify that in this case you get what you pay for, if not more. If you are considering one of these..... Take the plunge. You will not regret it. Last edited by ls7z06; 09-28-2009 at 05:02 AM.

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09-28-2009, 05:03 AM	#2
BStecke Blu-ray Knight Member since:Jun 2007 4K collection:182 Blu-ray collection:567 DVD collection:1 Digital collection:1 iTunes collection:1 Blu-ray reviews: 1 Trading Score:6	I think you'll be pleasantly surprised by what the ISF calibration can do for it. You could probably get much better than what you've got now just by using something like Digital Video Essentials. The pre set modes usually aren't that great.

09-28-2009, 12:35 PM	#3
ls7z06 Active Member Member since:Aug 2009	I did use 2 different ones. One was the DVE. I don't recall the name of the other one but it came with my Oppo blu-ray player. End result was a couple of minor tweeks.

09-28-2009, 12:44 PM	#4
agoofykindasuperman Blu-ray Knight Top contributor Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Toronto, Canada Home Theater Gallery:27 4K collection:618 Blu-ray collection:2041 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:178	Damn you Is7z06 lol... I'm in the "thought" process of taking the plunge while they're still available. It's a lot of money for a "tech toy"! lol But it might just be this weekend that I crack...

09-28-2009, 04:38 PM	#6
saprano Blu-ray Champion Top contributor Member since:Oct 2007 Location:Bronx, New York Blu-ray collection:495 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:9	You heard the man. If your thinking about getting this TV, stop thinking and go buy it.....now.

09-29-2009, 12:42 AM	#7
ls7z06 Active Member Member since:Aug 2009	Better get it. BB told me they had about 100 in the warehouse and that was it. No more coming. And they will wheel and deal with you.

10-05-2009, 10:43 PM	#10
William H Pratt Active Member Member since:Sep 2008 Location:Toledo, OH	A professional ISF calibration is HIGHLY recommended.

10-05-2009, 10:46 PM	#11
brett_day Blu-ray Guru Member since:Mar 2008 Location:Moore, Oklahoma Home Theater Gallery:18 Blu-ray collection:45 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:1	im sorry....did he say HD-DVD? j/K Grats on the TV. I bet it looks stunning!

10-06-2009, 09:28 PM	#13
sarge1976 Power Member Member since:Nov 2007 Location:Shillington,PA Home Theater Gallery:22 Blu-ray collection:1038 Blu-ray reviews:6 Trading Score:4	I still have an HD DVD player

10-07-2009, 12:25 AM	#16
CallingMrBenzo Active Member Top ranked HT gallery Member since:Oct 2008 Home Theater Gallery:35 4K collection:2 Blu-ray collection:4 Blu-ray reviews:2	i have three hd dvd players and im not at all ashamed of them, my 360 add on got me to where i am today and my interest in this hobby is due to them i now have two blu ray players too

10-07-2009, 12:26 AM	#17
brett_day Blu-ray Guru Member since:Mar 2008 Location:Moore, Oklahoma Home Theater Gallery:18 Blu-ray collection:45 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:1	guys if you could not tell it was a lounge in cheek statement!

10-09-2009, 10:25 PM	#18
ls7z06 Active Member Member since:Aug 2009	That's funny! I love my addiction to high def. But I agree with one of the other posters.... it was Toshiba and HD DVD that got me hooked on the HT drug. Lots of water under the bridge since then. But the first HD DVD I ever plugged in to a 1080p display was an amazing experience. At the end of the day, I still think the pic quality of HD DVD is VERY good and was especially good on the new Kuro. The load times and mid movie lock ups were where I parted company with Toshiba and HD DVD as a first choice HD source. Now it's Oppo and PS3 all the way for me....except for those old HDDVD movies I still have and have not been able to replace with BRay yet.

10-20-2009, 02:15 AM	#19
Alcam Junior Member Top ranked HT gallery Member since:Aug 2009 Location:Colorado, USA Home Theater Gallery:6 Blu-ray collection:1178	Congrats on your new TV.....................

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