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Old 12-22-2005, 04:26 PM   #1
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Digigami Demonstrates VBR HD MPEG-2 Encoding Competitve with H.264
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Digigami today announced its new MegaPEG HD MPEG-2 VBR encoder is capable of matching and, in some cases, exceeding the picture quality while offering reduced bitrates compared to current H.264 encoders.

Recently, Sony Pictures senior VP of advanced technologies, Don Ecklund, was blasted for his assertions about MPEG-2 video quality in defense of Sony's decision to release HD MPEG-2 encoded feature films on Blu-Ray discs. Digigami's own research and actual MPEG encoder output (sample movies available at http://www.digigami.com/megapeg/hdtv_samples.php) verify Ecklund's claims that MPEG-2 can and will continue to achieve quality/bitrates comparable to H.264 for the next generation of optical disc formats, including Blu-Ray and HD-DVD.

New Advances in MPEG-2 VBR Encoding squeeze Hi-Def MPEG-2 on standard DVD

Proponents claim H.264 is capable of HD encoding feature films at the same bitrates as standard definition DVD. To the extent that this is true, the capability is not unique to H.264. The new Digigami HD encoder can produce 720p content with an average bitrate of 3-7 mbit/s, which is equivalent to the bitrates used in today's standard definition DVD titles. Comparing with H.264 we can see there is no advantage; an improved MPEG-2 encoder can perform this feat well. Score one for MPEG-2.

"In our tests here at Digigami, we find that our MPEG-2 encoder is actually outperforming H.264 by a wide margin on 720p/1080p film content. Typically, our HD MPEG-2 encoder can produce VBR files two thirds to one half the bitrate produced by current H.264 encoders. On our website we have compressed material which supports this assertion. A recent example is a 400MB H.264 720p video blog that we recompressed to 172MB MPEG-1 VBR. In our testing, only highly saturated, brightly colored material (atypical of most content) is improved by H.264 - owing primarily to the use of 4:2:2 color."

Improves Widely Used MPEG-2 Rather Than Hopping H.264 Bandwagon

Digigami took a different approach to improving their video encoder technology. Firstly, the company built a powerful analysis tool (http://www.digigami.com/mpressionist/), which allows employees and customers to quantitatively analyze any existing compressed MPEG-2 footage. The results of different encoders, including H.264 encoders, can be compared quantitatively. Secondly, Digigami used these tools to analyze a large number of commercial DVD titles encoded by different encoders and mastering houses. Based on the findings, they made improvements to the company's core MPEG-2 encoder which eliminates inefficiencies of previous generation encoders - the same goal as H.264. However, these improvements require no changes to MPEG-2 HD televisions, which is the reason for having an ISO standard in the first place.
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Old 12-22-2005, 10:50 PM   #2
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huh?
How can they manage this with standard MPEG-2? I don't get it. Or it is a completely new standard, or it is the same. Right?

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Old 12-23-2005, 02:51 AM   #3
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Well, the reason (if it's true) is most likely because MPEG-2 encoders are more mature than new H.264 encoders, they've had many more years to tinker and optimize them. This will surely change over time, but MPEG-2 might not be as bad for the moment as some make it sound.
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Old 12-23-2005, 10:44 AM   #4
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"In our tests here at Digigami, we find that our MPEG-2 encoder is actually outperforming H.264 by a wide margin on 720p/1080p film content"

i'll believe it when someone nonbiased confirms it,
also they don't mention which H.264 encoder they compare against or which options were used

lets hope we get a codec review sometime soon with this one in it

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Old 12-23-2005, 11:06 PM   #5
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The Argument 2 vs 4 is interesting although irrelevent to the release of movies. Seeing that all Blu Ray players will be able to play both Codecs, I think everyone's interest (the consumer) is what produces the highets quality picture and fits on a BD Disk, assuming each have the same monetry cost to produce. I suspect that each codec will be better suited to certain types of material.
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Old 12-24-2005, 05:10 AM   #6
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Yes, I think the customer only concern what is the higest quality which the codec can provid and put it in blue disc. and I think blue disc have the huge capacity so the video and audio quality is the most important, but internet and mobile phone which bandwidth is limited now, so the bitrate is important
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