Zombie....Why all the hate?

[Lacit170]

Just curious as to why people hate Rob Zombie so much...I'll admit that Halloween 2 was awful but the first Halloween he did was pretty damn good imo. I understand he put a different spin on the movie but isn't that the point?

The guy has made 4 movies...Devils Rejects being one of the best horror movies of the last decade...Is all the hate coming from fanboys of the original Halloween??

[Lord_Stewie]

I enjoy his music. However, his movies are terrible. The guy has no talent in that department but to show sadistic he can make a movie. Now don't get me wrong sadistic could be a talent and its appealing to others. To me its just doesn't appeal to me.

[jjbsn5192]

Originally Posted by Lord_Stewie

I enjoy his music. However, his movies are terrible. The guy has no talent in that department but to show sadistic he can make a movie. Now don't get me wrong sadistic could be a talent and its appealing to others. To me its just doesn't appeal to me.

at this point respectfully.. Zombie's a Genious in his own field.. the only reason he gets so much hate and disrespect is due to trying to Re-Inmagine Halloween which those films wernt that bad but wernt that great.

in Terms of the Rejects.. that's his field, his creativity is really in his own "Films"
Zombie isnt a bad director. hell Rejects was one of the best Horror films and in the next few years will most likely become something of a Cult Classic.

House of 1000 Corpses was unique and very creative but had a errie kind of feeling too it. but also kind of reminded me of Natural Born Killers By oliver stone. in term's of bizzare completion of the film NBK being a classic.. absolutely.

but i really dont think people see Zombie for what he is.. he's a Rockstar, he's a Creative Person.. you've seen his music videos!
he definately isnt the worst director..
i have alot of respect for the guy

[BladeRunner2007]

I don't hate Rob Zombie at all. I really like him, his films & his music. HO1000C was his weakest imo but still good, TDR was great, Halloween was very good and I love Halloween II.

[Jeremy1983]

The Devils Rejects is amazing! All his other films are just OK IMO. Zombie just needs to stop casting his wife in all his movies. She is AWEFUL

[F13BluRay]

Originally Posted by BladeRunner2007

I don't hate Rob Zombie at all. I really like him, his films & his music. HO1000C was his weakest imo but still good, TDR was great, Halloween was very good and I love Halloween II.

My thoughts exactly.

[EricJ]

Originally Posted by Lacit170

The guy has made 4 movies...Devils Rejects being one of the best horror movies of the last decade...Is all the hate coming from fanboys of the original Halloween??

Because John Carpenter had made two films before making HIS Halloween, from a background of being a film director, and not an overly image-obsessed metal star who wants to indulge his severely limited pop-culture tastes.

If RZ wants to be a director, let's see him remake "Starman".

[CZAR]

Why do we have to be fan boys of Halloween? I mean I love Friday the 13th and I didnt have a prob with the remake of that film. The reason is simple......he crapped on the Halloween franchise with those so-called Halloween films. Got Em!!

[mpstjohn]

If Zombie's film wasn't called Halloween, I might've enjoyed it. Unfortunately Carpenter's film worked because of its subtlety, because of what Carpenter left to our imagination.

Zombie's film is completely lacking subtlety. He spells everything out in graphic detail, and while this might've worked for a slasher film by any other name, Halloween originally worked because it was conceived to leave a lot of what we know about Myers ambiguous.

Keeping the shell of what Carpenter created and injecting the empty space with rednecks didn't really do it for me.

There's also a matter of Zombie not keeping his word. He said he'd never go back to Halloween after his initial remake. He broke that promise. He said he'd never do a remake, and if he did not a horror remake. He's got a remake of The Blob coming up. H2 seems like a testament to him hating Halloween fans. What he did to Loomis and what he wanted in Michael Myers (a maskless man who shouts at Loomis at the end of his Director's Cut) hurt to watch.

[assydingo]

I like his music and The Devil's Rejects. Haven't seen his Halloween 2 yet.

[dmb70]

Originally Posted by mpstjohn

If Zombie's film wasn't called Halloween, I might've enjoyed it.

I think this counts for alot!

I didn't really like his Halloween 2 very much but the 1st one was ok. I think I would have enjoyed them both more had they not been "Halloween". When you're dealing with an established "brand" you have certain expectations to meet, if these were just new characters there is less pre-conception.

I like house of 1000 corpses & Devil's Rejects, his music is pretty good & in interviews he seems like a decent guy. So no Zombie hater here.

I to thought this was going to be about the movie Zombie.

[Idioteque...]

Because of obsession with trailer trash folks. Every character in his movie like that, it's so unrealistic. I can't even buy it, sure there are people like that but not everyone in the world is. In Zombie's world they are.

Besides he makes crappy music. Dude has no talent and can't write for ****.

[surfdude12]

whenever you re-make a horror masterpiece, you're asking for trouble.

[BladeRunner2007]

He was in a lose-lose situation from the very beginning when he announced Halloween....

[DetroitSportsFan]

Many people automatically hate remakes and those who make them.

I liked his music and his Halloween films, but I didn't care for his "original" work.

[Xombito]

Originally Posted by DetroitSportsFan

Many people automatically hate remakes and those who make them.

I liked his music and his Halloween films, but I didn't care for his "original" work.

+1 except for the "original" part. H2 isn't that bad. As a matter of fact I liked it quite a bit. I can name alot more remakes and even stand alone horror films far worse than that film. I think alot of people are more cynical towards remakes these days (not that I necessarily blame them). Like alot of horror films, as time goes on, I think people will soften thier views towards H2 or Zombie's films in general. He already has a built in cult following. I mean, come on really, at least he didn't have Michael Myers in a kung fu fight with some wacky rapper and lose.

[Fighter]

Originally Posted by surfdude12

whenever you re-make a horror masterpiece, you're asking for trouble.

I still prefer Zombie's Halloween films over Carpenter's "masterpiece"

[househead]

RZ is a hack. I respect his vast knowledge of horror movies but H1000C was just him jerkin' it to Texas Chainsaw Massacre.

Halloween remake? Garbage.

Plus it was Zombie that talked shit about the Dawn of the Dead remake saying that the old classics should never be remade. I guess when somebody's flashin' green in you're face your opinion changes.

He should have stuck to the Underground show on TCM. That's what I like him doing. Droppin' knowledge and introducing horror fans to movies they haven't seen.

[Beaner666]

Darn, I hoped you were talking about THIS "Zombie"

[Lacit170]

Originally Posted by Idioteque...

Because of obsession with trailer trash folks. Every character in his movie like that, it's so unrealistic. I can't even buy it, sure there are people like that but not everyone in the world is. In Zombie's world they are.

Besides he makes crappy music. Dude has no talent and can't write for ****.

this is a pretty bad reason to not like a movie.... what horror movies do you like?