WTF MGM? "Rescue Dawn" w/no extras @ $39.99 MSRP - Blu-ray Forum

JBlacklow · 10-11-2007, 03:36 PM

I really thought Fox had changed since the bare-bones releases of 2006. Indeed, their recent releases have included at least some extras, if not the same as the DVD versions. That gave me some hope for the MGM titles that they had picked up. Okay, so "Robocop" came barebones, but I figured they were just slacking on a decade-plus-old catalog title. But now "Rescue Dawn", an amazing film from this year is also coming without extras. Really, if any film cried out for extras, this is it, seeing as how the historical basis of the film has already been the subject of a documentary.

Wake the **** up, MGM and Fox.

Josh · 10-11-2007, 03:45 PM

As a person who couldn't care less about extras, it doesn't phase me in the least bit. I watch the movie and that's all.

SS316SRV · 10-11-2007, 03:50 PM

It is that big of a deal. The biggest special feature is the blu-ray exclusivity. I have only watched features on Apocalypto and Dawn of the Dead, and mostly because I had nothing better to do.

Rule #1: DO NOT EVER BAD MOUTH A BLU-RAY EXCLUSIVE STUDIO.

BStecke · 10-11-2007, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Josh

As a person who couldn't care less about extras, it doesn't phase me in the least bit. I watch the movie and that's all.

Same here. Couldn't care less. I'd rather spend 27 bucks on a good PQ/AQ release than 23 for a so-so release with a lot of extras.

jdsanko · 10-11-2007, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by BStecke

Same here. Couldn't care less. I'd rather spend 27 bucks on a good PQ/AQ release than 23 for a so-so release with a lot of extras.

Extra's are just that, something extra which for me has no relevance in my buying decision. First is the quality of the film followed by PQ and AQ (of which I rate as equally important).

DetroitSportsFan · 10-11-2007, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Josh

As a person who couldn't care less about extras, it doesn't phase me in the least bit. I watch the movie and that's all.

I agree.

I might watch the extras once, but they're not necessary to me.

Luis_A51 · 10-11-2007, 04:13 PM

Since I dont ever watch special features, I dont care if a movie has them or not. BUT I do agree that charging $39.99 is way too much, especially for a movie that has no extras.

Sonny · 10-11-2007, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Josh

As a person who couldn't care less about extras, it doesn't phase me in the least bit. I watch the movie and that's all.

Same here.

Nick Graham · 10-11-2007, 04:21 PM

I'm beginning to think that this is an MGM mandate and not a Fox one. While Fox has distribution rights, I believe MGM still runs their own home video department. With 50 gigs (should they choose to use it), and more than enough bandwidth, there is no reason not to include all the features on a Blu-Ray release, ESPECIALLY one with a 39.99 MSRP.

Also, paying this type of price could send a message to every other Blu-Ray studio that charges a 29.99 MSRP for their catalog titles that 39.99 is a-okay, so why not bump up that profit margin?

SS316SRV · 10-11-2007, 04:21 PM

Extras are nice to have, but if a film doesn't have them I am ok with it. I still don't need to hear about how tough it was for a millionaire to get ready to make a movie.

Luis_A51 · 10-11-2007, 04:36 PM

The biggest issue for me is the price. The most ill ever pay for a BD is $29.99 (ok maybe $34.99 in RARE cases). Still at those prices ill buy few, until they get to $24.99 or lower on average.

I dont see how Id ever spend $39.99 on a movie. Ever.

SDG · 10-11-2007, 04:42 PM

Jackie Chan movies are the only movies that I want extras on. Love the pain clips

JBlacklow · 10-11-2007, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Luis_A51

The biggest issue for me is the price. The most ill ever pay for a BD is $29.99 (ok maybe $34.99 in RARE cases). Still at those prices ill buy few, until they get to $24.99 or lower on average.

And this is the point that most in this thread are missing. I'd be much less upset if I wasn't paying through the nose for a bare-bones disc. I'll gladly pay more for the "Superbad" 2-disc set, because it's loaded with extras. But paying nearly 30 bucks even at Amazon for just a movie is a rip-off.

I only bought one Fox title in 2006 ("Kingdom of Heaven: DC") because I considered the movie essential, but I still held onto my 4-disc DVD. I eventually went with some others when the 50% off sale kicked off, but only because I was getting them for less than $20. If a similar sale hits I might pick this up, but until then it stays out of the shopping cart.

davidthebruce79 · 10-11-2007, 04:46 PM

Me and a friend recently watched red dawn.
We remembered how awesome it was when we were kids.
If none of you have seen it in a while I have a warning for you.
IT IS AWFUL!!!!
We almost stopped watching it.
How in the hell did I ever like this movie?

Cyorg · 10-11-2007, 05:22 PM

You don't pay the MSRP most of the time anyway .

TauRus · 10-11-2007, 08:24 PM

I am saying I don't care much for extras not becuase of any issues our Blu format might have. I honestly hardly ever watched them on most of my SD DVDs. Same old, same old "The making of ...", Deleted Scenes, Commentaries ... I found most of them pretty dull. How many times do you want to see an actor suspended on a couple of ropes in front of a blue screen, and then the magic touch of the artist turns the blue background into a miraculous scenery ...
I can only think of a couple of discs when I actually wanted to check if there were any interesting extras - that happened primarily if the movie itself was so impressive, that after it was over I felt I wanted to see some more of that.
Not once I felt like turning on a PiP .... no, thank you.

T-Town Oil · 10-11-2007, 08:30 PM

wolverines!!!!

Mr. Joshua · 10-11-2007, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Josh

As a person who couldn't care less about extras, it doesn't phase me in the least bit. I watch the movie and that's all.

Josh, I agree.... Sometimes the extras spoile the movie for me in the case of Hannibal. When I saw how fake the baby was in the shoot out scene now that's all I see is that fake baby. Looked pretty real to me up to that point...

frank_t · 10-11-2007, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Josh

As a person who couldn't care less about extras, it doesn't phase me in the least bit. I watch the movie and that's all.

I'm going to eat my words here and agree with you.

For some movies, extras are a must (read: Lord of the Rings, Alien films, Matrix trilogy, you see the pattern here!), but for many, I'm not in agreement. I watch the film and I'm done. Little interest in extras for majority of movies -- especially with how gimmicky extras have become.

I'll buy Red Dawn. It's a silly movie, but a guilty pleasure all the same. Kind of like Fifth Element. It's just enjoyable to watch, silly story and all.

sj001 · 10-11-2007, 05:31 PM

Extras never mattered all that much to me either, though as others had said, with some of the bigger movies maybe.
I'm certainly not that interested in extras for Red Dawn, though I'm a little disappointed that Robocop has none either.

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10-11-2007, 03:36 PM	#1
JBlacklow Senior Member Member since:Dec 2006	WTF MGM? "Rescue Dawn" w/no extras @ $39.99 MSRP I really thought Fox had changed since the bare-bones releases of 2006. Indeed, their recent releases have included at least some extras, if not the same as the DVD versions. That gave me some hope for the MGM titles that they had picked up. Okay, so "Robocop" came barebones, but I figured they were just slacking on a decade-plus-old catalog title. But now "Rescue Dawn", an amazing film from this year is also coming without extras. Really, if any film cried out for extras, this is it, seeing as how the historical basis of the film has already been the subject of a documentary. Wake the **** up, MGM and Fox.

10-11-2007, 03:45 PM	#2
Josh Super Moderator Top contributor Member since:Sep 2006 Home Theater Gallery:50 4K collection:37 Blu-ray collection:407 Digital collection:1 Blu-ray reviews: 15 Trading Score:34	As a person who couldn't care less about extras, it doesn't phase me in the least bit. I watch the movie and that's all.

10-11-2007, 03:50 PM	#3
SS316SRV Blu-ray Guru Member since:Sep 2007 Location:Appleton, WI Blu-ray collection:74	It is that big of a deal. The biggest special feature is the blu-ray exclusivity. I have only watched features on Apocalypto and Dawn of the Dead, and mostly because I had nothing better to do. Rule #1: DO NOT EVER BAD MOUTH A BLU-RAY EXCLUSIVE STUDIO.

10-11-2007, 04:13 PM	#7
Luis_A51 Blu-ray Guru Member since:Jun 2007 Location:Calgary, AB Blu-ray reviews:4	Since I dont ever watch special features, I dont care if a movie has them or not. BUT I do agree that charging $39.99 is way too much, especially for a movie that has no extras.

10-11-2007, 04:21 PM	#9
Nick Graham Senior Member Member since:May 2007 Home Theater Gallery:5 Blu-ray collection:345 Blu-ray reviews: 1 Trading Score:1	I'm beginning to think that this is an MGM mandate and not a Fox one. While Fox has distribution rights, I believe MGM still runs their own home video department. With 50 gigs (should they choose to use it), and more than enough bandwidth, there is no reason not to include all the features on a Blu-Ray release, ESPECIALLY one with a 39.99 MSRP. Also, paying this type of price could send a message to every other Blu-Ray studio that charges a 29.99 MSRP for their catalog titles that 39.99 is a-okay, so why not bump up that profit margin?

10-11-2007, 04:36 PM	#11
Luis_A51 Blu-ray Guru Member since:Jun 2007 Location:Calgary, AB Blu-ray reviews:4	The biggest issue for me is the price. The most ill ever pay for a BD is $29.99 (ok maybe $34.99 in RARE cases). Still at those prices ill buy few, until they get to $24.99 or lower on average. I dont see how Id ever spend $39.99 on a movie. Ever.

10-11-2007, 04:42 PM	#12
SDG Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Sep 2007 Location:Arkansas	Jackie Chan movies are the only movies that I want extras on. Love the pain clips

10-11-2007, 04:46 PM	#14
davidthebruce79 Member Member since:Jul 2007	Me and a friend recently watched red dawn. We remembered how awesome it was when we were kids. If none of you have seen it in a while I have a warning for you. IT IS AWFUL!!!! We almost stopped watching it. How in the hell did I ever like this movie?

10-11-2007, 08:24 PM	#16
TauRus Active Member Member since:Dec 2006 Location:Chicago NW burbs	I am saying I don't care much for extras not becuase of any issues our Blu format might have. I honestly hardly ever watched them on most of my SD DVDs. Same old, same old "The making of ...", Deleted Scenes, Commentaries ... I found most of them pretty dull. How many times do you want to see an actor suspended on a couple of ropes in front of a blue screen, and then the magic touch of the artist turns the blue background into a miraculous scenery ... I can only think of a couple of discs when I actually wanted to check if there were any interesting extras - that happened primarily if the movie itself was so impressive, that after it was over I felt I wanted to see some more of that. Not once I felt like turning on a PiP .... no, thank you.

10-11-2007, 08:30 PM	#17
T-Town Oil Expert Member Top ranked HT gallery Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Tulsa, Oklahoma Home Theater Gallery:20 Blu-ray collection:42 Blu-ray reviews:3	wolverines!!!!

10-11-2007, 05:31 PM	#20
sj001 Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Rochester, NY Blu-ray collection:317 DVD collection:17 Trading Score:5	Extras never mattered all that much to me either, though as others had said, with some of the bigger movies maybe. I'm certainly not that interested in extras for Red Dawn, though I'm a little disappointed that Robocop has none either.

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