Mark my words: The Dark Knight will be the movie that'll bring BD to mainstream! - Blu-ray Forum

Petra · 01-11-2008, 08:25 PM

...Just like what The Matrix did for DVD

If not, I'll eat my own shoes. Mods you can sticky this

mel2 · 01-11-2008, 08:26 PM

I thought Dragon Wars was going to do it.

T-Town Oil · 01-11-2008, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by mel2

I thought Dragon Wars was going to do it.

i thought the aquarium and fireplace really wouldve done it for us

ScarredLungs · 07-23-2008, 03:09 AM

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Originally Posted by T-Town Oil

i thought the aquarium and fireplace really wouldve done it for us

That's what did it for me. I was like wow!

I would have to agree that TDK will be a huge sale on blu and that many people will go to blu once the movie is released on video

ScarredLungs · 07-23-2008, 03:15 AM

Here is an interesting web site to look at. http://www.the-numbers.com/movies/records/#fastest TDK is doing really well and is going to set and break many records

Sidewinder · 07-23-2008, 12:23 PM

With an IMDB rating of 9.5 as of today, I think "The Dark Knight" will push Blu-ray adoption quite a bit. But for BD to be mainstream it'll need at least one more year. At least in the US, Europe needs two or three years more :-(

KJH6926 · 08-22-2008, 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by T-Town Oil

i thought the aquarium and fireplace really wouldve done it for us

hahahaha +1

Gamma_Winstead · 01-11-2008, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by mel2

I thought Dragon Wars was going to do it.

dude HD-DVD was just brought to mainstream with the announcement of "The Ten" Real format winner there.

mystiksuicide · 01-11-2008, 08:26 PM

Batman will be a huge release without a doubt but as to being a game changer, I wouldn't go that far.
I still prefer The Matrix trilogy any day.

funkybudda · 01-11-2008, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by mystiksuicide

Batman will be a huge release without a doubt but as to being a game changer, I wouldn't go that far.
I still prefer The Matrix trilogy any day.

Sorry, but only the first Matrix was good.

mystiksuicide · 01-11-2008, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by funkybudda

Sorry, but only the first Matrix was good.

Matter of opinion.

hollywoodguy · 01-11-2008, 09:37 PM

I don't know about "mainstream," but I Am Legend will certainly break all then-standing records when it comes out. It'll be the first major day-and-date blockbuster after all the recent news that fits the early adopter & gamer demographic and has a lot of audio-visual appeal. I could see it selling 500,000 in a matter of weeks.

Petra · 01-11-2008, 09:38 PM

I don't get it. LucasFilm and New Line already double, triple, quadruple dip on all those franchises. There's NO WAY those franchises will outsell TDK

hollywoodguy · 01-11-2008, 09:39 PM

And for all the reasons mentioned over the last few months, no catalog title will be the "defining" BD release (if there ever is one), not even LotR or Star Wars.

gandley · 01-11-2008, 09:39 PM

maybe just 2-3 hits in a row that look fantastic on BD and have features that evidently some what and it grabs peoples attention.

1 movie wont do it but a string of 3 would really get some traction.

UlicBelouve · 01-11-2008, 09:58 PM

+1 for what stockstar1138 is saying, you're doing it better than I.

Dark Knight (on display on a Blu-Ray) might make j6p stop and say "Whoa" (yes, I'm alluding to Matrix). But Dark Knight isn't going to make him drop the money on a Blu-Ray system.

You need to remember that "flat-screens" haven't even made it into the general population. They're confused by the Red, Green, and Blue connectors on the back of their TV. Their DVD player has Red, White, and Yellow cords. (They're also the ones that have the red audio cord in the video spot, and then complain about their sound).

This will be the year for people to get more Hi-Def educated (so they know about HDTV, the equipment needed, etc.) I think by the end of 2008, we'll have a good platform of people with HDTV and better know-how.

You'll need that as a prerequisite before any movie will bring Blu-ray to the mainstream. HDTV needs to be mainstream first. Hell, the difference between composite and component needs to be mainstream first, and then even HDMI. Hell, people are returning HDTVs complaining that "It looks like someone smeared cat poop on it", not knowing that an HDTV needs an HDTV input. they just expect to bring it home and it looks superb like in Best Buy.

Right now, no movie is going to make J6P invest the time and money to figure out Blu-ray, when he fails to grasp HDTV. Eventually, some movie will do it, but I think that will only be after HDTV is mainstream.

Why did I just now think of that DirecTV commercial with Jessica Simpson and 1080i "I don't know what that is, but I want it". ? Average consumer education needs to increase. I think that with HD-DVD dying, that it's time to pour on the user education, to where they evolve to "I know what Blu-Ray and 1080p is, how to use it, and I want it".

Bottom line, we need two things, not one:
-Increased HDTV education for J6P
-Great movies on Blu-Ray

The second item should be taken care of now, but not even Dark Night will be able to overcome the obstacle posed by the first item.

Hassoon · 01-11-2008, 10:24 PM

HERE COMES A NEW CHALLENGER!!!

Actually, it's probably the sequel that will be out on Blu in 2009/2010 that has a much better chance at passing the million mark

.

The Don · 01-12-2008, 03:17 AM

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Originally Posted by mystiksuicide

Batman will be a huge release without a doubt but as to being a game changer, I wouldn't go that far.
I still prefer The Matrix trilogy any day.

that is crazy talk...

the 1st 2 and then Begins are all on par with the 1st Matrix and the other two were snoozers...

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Originally Posted by gandley

So if starwars comes in HD it wont sell well. there are certain catalog titles that will always sell big numbers SW is one and i reckon LOTR will be another.
Put it this way, when people know you can buy LOTR or SW on Blu Ray they will know its the format to choose.

In truth perhaps LOTR and DK would be a combo that would ahem 'turn the tide'.

I dont think DK on its own is enough.

DK and BB together can do some serious damage...

but just the older star wars movies alone are enough to trump everything..

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Originally Posted by MFS3Kiryu

I would much rather have the 89 Batman then Begins or Dark Knight.

I don't think Dark Knight is going to be that big or that huge. Nolan fails as an action director and it isn't going to make a fraction of what Spider-Man 3 and Transformers have, and neither of those crappy movies made HD mainstream, neither will this crappy movie

carazy talk...

Nolan is a serious director..

he put together a strong storyline and everything in the action sequences except for the fighting in the narrows was shot well...

CptGreedle · 01-11-2008, 08:27 PM

LOL. Can we get a video on youtube of you eating your shoes please?

Petra · 01-11-2008, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by CptGreedle

LOL. Can we get a video on youtube of you eating your shoes please?

Deal!

01-11-2008, 08:25 PM	#1
Petra Senior Member Member since:Dec 2006	Mark my words: The Dark Knight will be the movie that'll bring BD to mainstream! ...Just like what The Matrix did for DVD If not, I'll eat my own shoes. Mods you can sticky this

01-11-2008, 08:26 PM	#9
mystiksuicide Blu-ray Guru Member since:Sep 2007 Location:Miami Blu-ray collection:305 Blu-ray reviews:27	Batman will be a huge release without a doubt but as to being a game changer, I wouldn't go that far. I still prefer The Matrix trilogy any day. Last edited by mystiksuicide; 01-11-2008 at 08:33 PM.

01-11-2008, 09:58 PM	#16
UlicBelouve Senior Member Member since:May 2007 Location:Menomonee Falls, WI Blu-ray collection:95 Blu-ray reviews:1	+1 for what stockstar1138 is saying, you're doing it better than I. Dark Knight (on display on a Blu-Ray) might make j6p stop and say "Whoa" (yes, I'm alluding to Matrix). But Dark Knight isn't going to make him drop the money on a Blu-Ray system. You need to remember that "flat-screens" haven't even made it into the general population. They're confused by the Red, Green, and Blue connectors on the back of their TV. Their DVD player has Red, White, and Yellow cords. (They're also the ones that have the red audio cord in the video spot, and then complain about their sound). This will be the year for people to get more Hi-Def educated (so they know about HDTV, the equipment needed, etc.) I think by the end of 2008, we'll have a good platform of people with HDTV and better know-how. You'll need that as a prerequisite before any movie will bring Blu-ray to the mainstream. HDTV needs to be mainstream first. Hell, the difference between composite and component needs to be mainstream first, and then even HDMI. Hell, people are returning HDTVs complaining that "It looks like someone smeared cat poop on it", not knowing that an HDTV needs an HDTV input. they just expect to bring it home and it looks superb like in Best Buy. Right now, no movie is going to make J6P invest the time and money to figure out Blu-ray, when he fails to grasp HDTV. Eventually, some movie will do it, but I think that will only be after HDTV is mainstream. Why did I just now think of that DirecTV commercial with Jessica Simpson and 1080i "I don't know what that is, but I want it". ? Average consumer education needs to increase. I think that with HD-DVD dying, that it's time to pour on the user education, to where they evolve to "I know what Blu-Ray and 1080p is, how to use it, and I want it". Bottom line, we need two things, not one: -Increased HDTV education for J6P -Great movies on Blu-Ray The second item should be taken care of now, but not even Dark Night will be able to overcome the obstacle posed by the first item. Last edited by UlicBelouve; 01-11-2008 at 10:00 PM.

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01-11-2008, 08:26 PM	#2
mel2 Active Member Member since:Aug 2007	I thought Dragon Wars was going to do it.

07-23-2008, 03:15 AM	#5
ScarredLungs Blu-ray Champion Top contributor Member since:Dec 2007 Location:Utah 4K collection:65 Blu-ray collection:1433 Prime collection:1 Blu-ray reviews:8 Trading Score:4	Here is an interesting web site to look at. http://www.the-numbers.com/movies/records/#fastest TDK is doing really well and is going to set and break many records

07-23-2008, 12:23 PM	#6
Sidewinder Senior Member Member since:Mar 2005 4K collection:45 Blu-ray collection:571	With an IMDB rating of 9.5 as of today, I think "The Dark Knight" will push Blu-ray adoption quite a bit. But for BD to be mainstream it'll need at least one more year. At least in the US, Europe needs two or three years more :-(

01-11-2008, 09:37 PM	#12
hollywoodguy Senior Member Member since:Jul 2007	I don't know about "mainstream," but I Am Legend will certainly break all then-standing records when it comes out. It'll be the first major day-and-date blockbuster after all the recent news that fits the early adopter & gamer demographic and has a lot of audio-visual appeal. I could see it selling 500,000 in a matter of weeks.

01-11-2008, 09:38 PM	#13
Petra Senior Member Member since:Dec 2006	I don't get it. LucasFilm and New Line already double, triple, quadruple dip on all those franchises. There's NO WAY those franchises will outsell TDK

01-11-2008, 09:39 PM	#14
hollywoodguy Senior Member Member since:Jul 2007	And for all the reasons mentioned over the last few months, no catalog title will be the "defining" BD release (if there ever is one), not even LotR or Star Wars.

01-11-2008, 09:39 PM	#15
gandley Special Member Member since:Feb 2007 Location:The Drowning Pool	maybe just 2-3 hits in a row that look fantastic on BD and have features that evidently some what and it grabs peoples attention. 1 movie wont do it but a string of 3 would really get some traction.

01-11-2008, 10:24 PM	#17
Hassoon Active Member Member since:Sep 2007	HERE COMES A NEW CHALLENGER!!! Actually, it's probably the sequel that will be out on Blu in 2009/2010 that has a much better chance at passing the million mark .

01-11-2008, 08:27 PM	#19
CptGreedle Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Sworn super-hero now services Atlanta (and suburbs). Blu-ray collection:128 Blu-ray reviews:5	LOL. Can we get a video on youtube of you eating your shoes please?

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