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Old 02-28-2008, 04:53 AM   #1
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Do you think we will eventually see the studios eventually re-release everything on BD?

Do you think it will only reach a certain percentage?

Has DVD even reached very close to 100% on all existing movie VHS re-releases?

Or is this time around just too costly and time consuming for studios?

Or will studios feel that DVD is going to be good enough for some titles?

I know its maybe too early on too think about it, but I have a feeling that some studios have already had these discussions internally (so any insiders want to comment)
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Old 02-28-2008, 04:54 AM   #2
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Considering there are still quite a few films that haven't even hit DVD yet, I think the same will follow for Blu-ray.

The cost will also be a factor, as the masters need to be in great shape in order to provide for a good presentation on Blu-ray. This, obviously, takes time and money, and for a lot of smaller, less popular titles, the rate of return may not justify the cost.

Many studios have already gone through the remastering process for many of their films, and as long as their remastering process was up to snuff, then these masters should be acceptable for Blu-ray. I'm sure it'll be very similar to DVD . . . slow start, but a steady supply of catalog titles.

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Old 02-28-2008, 10:45 AM   #3
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I've spent the past few days converting my Laserdiscs to Blu Ray. If those movies were ever coming to DVD then I wouldn't have bothered.

(I think it's time to retire the LD player)

I think the notion that all movies will exist on any one format is unrealistic.

You may eventually see more titles on Blu Ray then DVD but I bet VHS still has them both beat.

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Old 02-28-2008, 11:06 AM   #4
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A great set of questions. i don't have time to address or comment on each one, but I'd like to comment, and say this . . . Some of these variables will play an important role in the mass acceptance of Blu-ray and whether it becomes equal too or replaces regular DVD's or not:

a. We have approaching, Feb. 17th., 2009 the demise of Analog Broadcasting, with digital replacing it, hopefully all digital high definition with 16x9 aspect ratios (1:78:1 or better). There will be millions of digital HDTV sold this fall and winter and it would be wonderful if the manufacturers bundled an offering of the HDTV with a Blu-ray Player.

b. Even if the above occured, I don't believe that the mass market is willing to pay the premium price per Blu-ray Movie that we early adopters have done. The consumer will find a nice, broad choice on the players, reasonably priced and within their budgets. When they look at the Movies, averaging $ 18.00 + each, and then look at the same movie available from a satellite or cable provider on their Pay per View Channels at $ 4.99 downloadable to their DVR, which, as a mass audience, what do you think they'll do? So, in my opinion, Blu-ray Disc Movies need to be more reasonable, more than a standard DVD, since it contains better image and sound, but not so high to drive the consumer to recording the content elsewhere.

That's my take on the near future, what's yours? [Jim]
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Old 02-28-2008, 12:28 PM   #5
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You'll see more titles on Blu-Ray. BUT, saying that all movies (which means every movie ever made) will get released on Blu-Ray? The answer is a no.

Many movies have been released on DVD and VHS. But there are a lot of films that will never ever see the light of day again. Whether it be because of demand or because of rights issues or because the elements are too damaged (quite a early films only exist in pieces because the film has rotted).

I'd love to eventually see all of the movies that are on DVD released on Blu-Ray. I'm not sure that it'll happen...ever. But, I can dream.
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Old 02-28-2008, 04:23 PM   #6
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a. We have approaching, Feb. 17th., 2009 the demise of Analog Broadcasting, with digital replacing it, hopefully all digital high definition with 16x9 aspect ratios (1:78:1 or better).
This is a very good point and one I've made a few times. The marketplace is going to Digital TV (that is certain) which will be largely HD and mostly 16:9 aspect. That provides a strong synergy for HiDef media aka. Blu-ray.

Bill Hunt has tracked Top 100 AFI films going to DVD, see
http://www.thedigitalbits.com/articles/top100dvd.html
That was a good measure of DVD's success. I expect we will be able to see a similar success as measured by the AFI 100 into Blu-ray.

The world (of movies) is a diverse place, but big studios have been preparing for a HD world for some time; Sony Ent for example, and others, have been engaged in a years long effort to preserve title masters on HD digital media and that paves the way for HD releases.
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Old 02-28-2008, 09:37 PM   #7
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So, in my opinion, Blu-ray Disc Movies need to be more reasonable, more than a standard DVD, since it contains better image and sound, but not so high to drive the consumer to recording the content elsewhere.

That's my take on the near future, what's yours? [Jim]
You can see my opinions on this here.

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=38053&page=8

Overall, I strongly agree and my wallet will do the voting on that subject.
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Old 02-28-2008, 09:40 PM   #8
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I hope they make alot of Blu Rays someday. Will be great
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I've spent the past few days converting my Laserdiscs to Blu Ray. If those movies were ever coming to DVD then I wouldn't have bothered.

(I think it's time to retire the LD player)

I think the notion that all movies will exist on any one format is unrealistic.

You may eventually see more titles on Blu Ray then DVD but I bet VHS still has them both beat.

-Brian
Yep i think once it goes mainstream everything under the sun will go blu-ray
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Old 02-28-2008, 03:16 PM   #10
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Yep i think once it goes mainstream everything under the sun will go blu-ray


no kidding !

PS. sorry to poison your thread,.. couldnt resist
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Old 02-28-2008, 10:26 PM   #11
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I like it when peeps have a sense of humor, makes forum-ing mor fun :P

Hey I can't predict, but I do know that you shouldn't toss your old dvds yet, some will never be made into blu ray do to budget.

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Old 02-28-2008, 09:51 PM   #13
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If those movies were ever coming to DVD then I wouldn't have bothered.
Okay as a former LD fan who sold his limited collection of 15 movies, I am curious what those movies were that you felt would never see the DVD light?

I know Roger Ebert has a pretty diverse collection of stuff on LD as does Tarantino.
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Old 03-10-2008, 06:25 PM   #14
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I've spent the past few days converting my Laserdiscs to Blu Ray. If those movies were ever coming to DVD then I wouldn't have bothered.

(I think it's time to retire the LD player)

I think the notion that all movies will exist on any one format is unrealistic.

You may eventually see more titles on Blu Ray then DVD but I bet VHS still has them both beat.

-Brian
Brian: I have a bunch of LaserDiscs that I want to convert to DVD. Could you PM me to let me know how you did it? I've been researching on the Web, and one procedure that I came across wasn't all that cheap and the process could, it said, take 8 -14 hours to convert an average Laserdisc. Hope that isn't the case.

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Old 02-28-2008, 03:47 PM   #15
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Do you think we will eventually see the studios eventually re-release everything on BD?

Do you think it will only reach a certain percentage?

Has DVD even reached very close to 100% on all existing movie VHS re-releases?

Or is this time around just too costly and time consuming for studios?

Or will studios feel that DVD is going to be good enough for some titles?

I know its maybe too early on too think about it, but I have a feeling that some studios have already had these discussions internally (so any insiders want to comment)
To answer your first two questions, I feel that a majority of titles will be released. Right now Blu Ray isn't at the mass adoption level that standard DVD is. The cost is simply too high for the "average" consumer. As time goes on(e.g. years) the cost will go down, among the players, HDTV's, and the software. Add to that the time it will take a studio to go back and re-author those titles for Blu Ray. Not every title on the market on DVD have the best transfers due to the original source material.

DVD has been around long enough to get close to the amount of VHS releases, but I'm not sure as to the overall number for both formats, so that's a little hard to say.

With any new technology the price will be high in the beginning, but as cost for replication and manufacturing begin to lower I think the studio's will be able to match DVD as far as releases. Over time yes, it will make them more money which in the end is what they want. I'm sure the BDA will do what it can to educate the buying public more as time goes on. We all just need to have some patience, and in the end we will be rewarded.
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Old 02-28-2008, 09:45 PM   #16
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DVD has been around long enough to get close to the amount of VHS releases, but I'm not sure as to the overall number for both formats, so that's a little hard to say.
That certainly would be a cool statistic to see, but who in the world could be able to come up with the numbers is beyond me.

My gut is that about 90% of all movies have now been released on DVD. I posted because I was curious what other peoples perspective was on this number and if Blu-Ray could even achieve this. I think it certainly will come close someday but its going to take ALOT longer than in the time DVD almost achived its goal in terms of VHS movies.

My 90% number excludes exercise stuff, documentaries, and porn.
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I doubt every single movie ever pressed onto DVD will make it to Blu Ray. Some films are not worth it, while others have source materials that are so badly damaged that a Blu Ray version wouldn't look any better than the SD DVD version.

Maybe if Blu Ray eventually beats out SD-DVD, which I doubt will ever happen.
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Old 03-10-2008, 06:16 PM   #18
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