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Old 01-22-2007, 10:51 PM   #1
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ONE OF THE overriding themes at CES has been the dramatic improvements in LCD panel technology.

Every major manufacturer has introduced a 120Hz model, along with claimed improvements in contrast, colour reproduction, and noise reduction. Each of these innovations is striking, but when combined in one year they make for a dramatic change in the performance of LCD panels.

The 120Hz overscan virtually eliminates the motion blurring that occured on 60Hz LCD models. In scenarios where the content is panning there is a dramatic benefit from having the additional frame generated.

Colour reproduction has increased from 8 bit to anywhere from 10 bit to 14 bit. One of the key criticisms of LCD panels has been the reduced colour gamut that they could display.

Finally, improvements in handling noisy source content have completed the trifecta for most manufacturers. Where does this leave the millions of people out there who have purchased a flat panel LCD? The gradual improvements that occured in tube technology meant that CRT televisions had a reasonable shelf life. With the rapid advances in LCD panels, much like the desktop industry, the panel you bought yesterday is rendered obsolete today.

For those people interested in acquiring a flat panel LCD, the technology announced at CES will be filtering into retail over the next six months. Waiting a bit for this technology will is a great idea. Until the same thing happens next year at CES.
Heh, when I'm ready to upgrade my LCD PC monitor, I'll have to be looking out for one of these. 120Hz refresh rate sounds great!

Anyone have any more details or firsthand encounters from CES?
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Old 01-22-2007, 11:19 PM   #2
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No matter what you do, whatever you buy is going to be obsolete tomorrow.

Oh well.
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No matter what you do, whatever you buy is going to be obsolete tomorrow.

Oh well.
Always.
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Old 01-28-2007, 08:56 AM   #4
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OLED TVs FTW!!!

The latest jump from 8 ms last year to the faster 6 ms and 4 ms response times will not be enough for LCD TVs to be faster (in response time) than the next tech on the flat panel block..............OLED.

With prototypes (incl. the 27 inch one from Sony) already having response times of LESS than (or faster than) 1 milisecond (or to be more precise, 0.01 MICROSECONDS), it's going to take LCD technology beyond year 2010 to get their response times to those levels.

LCD tech would be AT LEAST FOUR YEARS BEHIND when compared to OLED TV technology (in terms of response time comparisons).
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OLED TVs FTW!!!

The latest jump from 8 ms last year to the faster 6 ms and 4 ms response times will not be enough for LCD TVs to be faster (in response time) than the next tech on the flat panel block..............OLED.

With prototypes (incl. the 27 inch one from Sony) already having response times of LESS than (or faster than) 1 milisecond (or to be more precise, 0.01 MICROSECONDS), it's going to take LCD technology beyond year 2010 to get their response times to those levels.

LCD tech would be AT LEAST FOUR YEARS BEHIND when compared to OLED TV technology (in terms of response time comparisons).
Does anyone really notice the difference between 6-4 ms?
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Does anyone really notice the difference between 6-4 ms?
Nope.

What's even more frustrating is that there isn't even a set standard for that in the industry.

4ms on one brand's LCD could be 8ms on another brand and so on.
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Old 01-28-2007, 02:48 PM   #7
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OLED's sound great, when can i buy one that is 2.35:1 AR to use in my home cinema? Thanks!
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OLED's sound great, when can i buy one that is 2.35:1 AR to use in my home cinema? Thanks!
They're not out yet.
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OLED's sound great, when can i buy one that is 2.35:1 AR to use in my home cinema? Thanks!
I'm not sure anything outside of front projection will ever meet this criteria.
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I'm not sure anything outside of front projection will ever meet this criteria.
Thats the point i am trying to get across to the guy. No TV Technology will replace the projector for true home theater for quite a while, if ever. OAR and CH setups are only done 1 way, and its not through a tv.
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Thats the point i am trying to get across to the guy. No TV Technology will replace the projector for true home theater for quite a while, if ever. OAR and CH setups are only done 1 way, and its not through a tv.
If you have the beans to get it done right? Yes: FP > *.
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