1.43:1 (IMAX) and 1.78:1 (16:9) - Blu-ray Forum

CH108 · 10-05-2008, 05:07 PM

Hi there,

Just thought I'd ask if the changing aspect ratio's on the Dark Knight BD release will allow me to see everything that was on the IMAX screen when the AR shifts to 1:78:1?

Would there be any cropping from 1:44:1 to fit into a 1:78:1 image?

ClaytonMG · 10-05-2008, 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CH108

Hi there,

Just thought I'd ask if the changing aspect ratio's on the Dark Knight BD release will allow me to see everything that was on the IMAX screen when the AR shifts to 1:78:1?

Would there be any cropping from 1:44:1 to fit into a 1:78:1 image?

Actually, oddly enough, it seemed that it was cropped for IMAX. In the IMAX prologue on Batman Begins, you can see on the left side the camera helicopter's reflection. When you actually see it on the IMAX screen, I am about 99% sure it's cut off. So I am thinking it was filmed 1.78:1, then cropped to 1.44:1 for IMAX use. But I could be wrong.

djluis2k6 · 10-05-2008, 06:10 PM

Or maybe they could just separate the IMAX scenes as extras only and leave the feature presenation in 1 size. Easy fix.

ClaytonMG · 10-05-2008, 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by djluis2k6

Or maybe they could just separate the IMAX scenes as extras only and leave the feature presenation in 1 size. Easy fix.

No thanx, I am 100% for the aspect ratio shift. There are actually quite a few movies with the shift though. Enchanted was a recent one. Except they windowboxed it (is that what it's actually called?) and then expanded it to 2.35:1.

I also didn't notice it was 1.71:1 on the Batman Begins disc because my set does a 2.5% overscan.

ClaytonMG · 10-05-2008, 07:20 PM

Deleted...

djluis2k6 · 10-05-2008, 07:48 PM

Putting on and then removing the black bars is ridiculous. Just keep the IMAX scenes as extras.

RIKANA · 10-06-2008, 01:56 PM

keep dreaming... there not going to do that.

RI

Quote:

Originally Posted by djluis2k6

Or maybe they could just separate the IMAX scenes as extras only and leave the feature presenation in 1 size. Easy fix.

aiman04 · 10-06-2008, 02:48 PM

I think the IMAX scenes will be pillarboxed if they maintain the 1:44:1. Or if they open up to it's original 1.71:1 ratio it will almost fill up the 1.78:1 TV (like the prologue in Batman Begins").

The normal scenes will be letterboxed for the 2.35:1 ratio to avoid cropping (those scenes were shot anamorphically and were cropped for IMAX screens).

But yeah, if they want, they could do branching technique for us to watch with the IMAX scenes or normal ones, just like "Close Encounters" and "I Am Legend".

Lyle_JP · 10-06-2008, 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aiman04

The normal scenes will be letterboxed for the 2.35:1 ratio to avoid cropping (those scenes were shot anamorphically and were letterboxed on IMAX screens).

Fixed.

GGX · 10-07-2008, 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by djluis2k6

Or maybe they could just separate the IMAX scenes as extras only and leave the feature presenation in 1 size. Easy fix.

More like it would ruin it than fix it.

djluis2k6 · 10-07-2008, 02:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GGX

More like it would ruin it than fix it.

Not everybody saw it on an IMAX theater. The majority of people who saw this movie, it was all in 1 form. You start giving people this widescreen/fullscreen interchanging crap, they will hate it and demand the DVD version instead. No matter how much you all loved this movie, you can't disagree with what I just said. It's not a very good business move to do something like this. It will drive even more DVD sales than Blu-Ray sales.

ClaytonMG · 10-07-2008, 02:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by djluis2k6

Not everybody saw it on an IMAX theater. The majority of people who saw this movie, it was all in 1 form. You start giving people this widescreen/fullscreen interchanging crap, they will hate it and demand the DVD version instead. No matter how much you all loved this movie, you can't disagree with what I just said. It's not a very good business move to do something like this. It will drive even more DVD sales than Blu-Ray sales.

HUH?!?! You put "EXCLUSIVE IMAX FORMAT!!!" on the Blu-Ray case, people will buy it up without even understanding it! So yes, I can absolutely without a shaddow of a doubt dissagree with what you said. And it's not crap, it's the director's intentions.

cajmoyper · 10-07-2008, 03:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GGX

More like it would ruin it than fix it.

I think he meant make it an option. That would be best. The IMAX scenes really aren't going to do anything that will make them look better on any of our screens anyways. I really hope they make it an option.

Blu Man · 10-05-2008, 06:17 PM

I read somewhere that watching the film with IMAX sequences are a play option at the menu. It makes scence because i don't think that they would force shifting aspect ratios on us.

10-05-2008, 05:07 PM	#1
CH108 Active Member Top contributor Member since:Mar 2008 Location:England Blu-ray collection:338 DVD collection:69	1.43:1 (IMAX) and 1.78:1 (16:9) Hi there, Just thought I'd ask if the changing aspect ratio's on the Dark Knight BD release will allow me to see everything that was on the IMAX screen when the AR shifts to 1:78:1? Would there be any cropping from 1:44:1 to fit into a 1:78:1 image?

10-05-2008, 07:20 PM	#5
ClaytonMG Blu-ray Samurai Member since:May 2006 Location:New Brighton, MN Home Theater Gallery:16 4K collection:833 Blu-ray collection:2370 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:1	Deleted... Last edited by ClaytonMG; 10-06-2008 at 01:34 AM. Reason: Deleted by request...

Similar Threads
thread	Forum	Thread Starter	Replies	Last Post
IMAX vs non-IMAX scenes	Blu-ray Technology and Future Technology	4K2K	16	11-05-2009 07:54 AM
Imax vs Imax "lite"	Movie Polls	Bizdady	40	05-15-2009 10:48 PM
Why the Star Trek IMAX isn’t real IMAX	Movies	scrumptious	53	05-14-2009 02:56 AM
Topic: Imax Film vs Imax Digital	Movies	Neil_Luv's_BLU	7	03-24-2009 04:36 PM
U2 in 3D on IMAX	Movies	whoami	0	02-11-2008 01:15 AM

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Email this Page
Display Modes
Switch to Linear Mode Hybrid Mode Switch to Threaded Mode

10-05-2008, 06:10 PM	#3
djluis2k6 Power Member Top contributor Member since:Feb 2007	Or maybe they could just separate the IMAX scenes as extras only and leave the feature presenation in 1 size. Easy fix.

10-05-2008, 07:48 PM	#6
djluis2k6 Power Member Top contributor Member since:Feb 2007	Putting on and then removing the black bars is ridiculous. Just keep the IMAX scenes as extras.

10-06-2008, 02:48 PM	#8
aiman04 Blu-ray Champion Member since:Nov 2007 Location:Malaysia Home Theater Gallery:9	I think the IMAX scenes will be pillarboxed if they maintain the 1:44:1. Or if they open up to it's original 1.71:1 ratio it will almost fill up the 1.78:1 TV (like the prologue in Batman Begins"). The normal scenes will be letterboxed for the 2.35:1 ratio to avoid cropping (those scenes were shot anamorphically and were cropped for IMAX screens). But yeah, if they want, they could do branching technique for us to watch with the IMAX scenes or normal ones, just like "Close Encounters" and "I Am Legend".

10-05-2008, 06:17 PM	#14
Blu Man Banned Member since:Sep 2008 Location:United States Blu-ray collection:19 Blu-ray reviews:1	I read somewhere that watching the film with IMAX sequences are a play option at the menu. It makes scence because i don't think that they would force shifting aspect ratios on us.

Best Blu-ray Movie Deals