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Old 02-12-2009, 07:55 AM   #1
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Lightbulb How are plasma sales compared to LCDS?

1) are they a lot worst?
2) why do i get the sense that plasma is having a hard time in the market?
3) if the PQ is better and blacks are better, why dont plasma companies market this?
4) why dont i see any marketing at all for plasmas? no commercials no anything
5) why are lcds more "accepted" then plasmas?
6) if u can get a bigger screen for less $$ compared to lcds, why do LCDS still seem to sell better( i dont know hard numbers, this is just an assumption because like 9 outta 10 of my friends their parents own LCDS)

sorry if i am opening a huge can of worms, but i have always thought of these questions but never answered them...
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Old 02-12-2009, 08:06 AM   #2
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I think its because LCDs look good in the showrooms, like best buy, where most average consumers go shopping. Since LCDs are brighter and more vivid, it captures people's eyes.
Also, many people may still have fear of burn-ins from plasma.
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Old 02-12-2009, 08:08 AM   #3
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why dont plasma producers make commercials or something to educate the public then...? are they keeping this a complete mystery? lol
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Old 02-12-2009, 08:19 AM   #4
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why dont plasma producers make commercials or something to educate the public then...? are they keeping this a complete mystery? lol
I guess because people will still buy what looks good in the store. I think Plasma, such as Kuro and viera, are for the videophiles... Just my 2 cents.
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Let me add a couple of more thoughts. LCDs are maintenance free, while Plasmas require a little care taking to avoid IR and BI. For example, my friend doesn't watch regular channels on his LCD TV. He only watches movies, 90% of which have black bars. This kind of practice is not suitable for plasma because it can lead to uneven phosphor wear. The average consumer may find this unacceptable.
Also, Plasma can never achieve the brightness level of a LCD because its pixels are not backlit. The pixels in plasmas provide their own illumination.

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Old 02-12-2009, 09:42 AM   #6
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Yeah but do you really want a bright image that doesn't look as close to the film source. Or would you prefer realistic colours and deep blacks? What I have noticed though is that in cinemas 35mm prints have the contrast ratio more closer to LCDs the black aren't that deep. And I think 35mm prints do only have a contrast ratio of 500:1. I think DLP projection is alot higher then that allowing better colour reproduction.
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Let me add a couple of more thoughts. LCDs are maintance free, while Plasmas recquire a little care taking to avoid IR and BI. For example, my friend doesn't watch regular channel on his LCD TV. He only watched movies, 90% of which have black bars. This kind of practice is not suitable for plasma because it can lead to uneven phosphor wear. The average consumer may find this unacceptable.
Also, Plasma can never achieve the brightness level of a LCD because its pixels are not backlit. The pixels in plasmas provide their own illumination.
So black bars are a NO NO when breaking in say a Pioneer 5020 huh? And we would be talking about 100-150 hours or so? That kinda puts a monkey wrench in my plans. I watch regular HD channels during the week but make it a point to watch blu-rays and a lot of them during the weekend.

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Old 02-12-2009, 01:39 PM   #8
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why dont plasma producers make commercials or something to educate the public then...? are they keeping this a complete mystery? lol
pioneer does. LCDs are cheaper so people think "wow that tv is cheaper and looks better."

Most consumers arn't rational, they buy what catches their eye. Which is why i have an lcd, and i don't doubt my purchase 1 bit.
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pioneer does. LCDs are cheaper so people think "wow that tv is cheaper and looks better."

Most consumers arn't rational, they buy what catches their eye. Which is why i have an lcd, and i don't doubt my purchase 1 bit.
when i last looked for 46" lcd and 46" plasma the lcds were all at least $300 more expensive.


and i live in cali and watch ESPN like all day and i never see a pany/pio commercial i only see samsung/sony commercials all day.
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LCDs are cheaper so people think "wow that tv is cheaper and looks better."
Ah, no they're not. Plasma's are cheaper.
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Ah, no they're not. Plasma's are cheaper.
Dobe's right. Retailers here in Toronto are telling me it's the movie buffs that are still going for plasma. That LCD still looks it has edge enhancement etc for films plus the issue with the blacks. However, they say LCD is selling more over all despite the higher cost.
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