Company Claims Holographic Disk Breakthrough --- Rival tech?

[thunderhawk]

I know this wont let the current war to stop but...

Article:

This company showed off its holographic prototype at the National Association of Broadcasters (NAB) convention in Las Vegas this week

InPhase said is uses a patented polytopic recording method to squeeze 300 gigabytes (GB) capacity on a single disk. It says that by 2009 it will be selling disks with up to 1.6 terabyte (TB) capacity.

Holographic storage delivers high capacity by recording data throughout the volume of the recording material, and not just on the surface, said the company. It says it's new recording technique enables more holograms to be stored in the same volume of material by overlapping not only 'pages', but also 'books' of data.

The recording method is used in conjunction with an optical architecture, which uses optical lenses with a high numerical aperture (NA). The combination of the new recording method and high NA lenses results in a smaller page size that provides a 10X increase in achievable data density, the company said.

It says it can also transfer the data at a rate of 27 megabytes (MB) per second.

News source: The Inquirer
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=22710


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Mmm... The data transferrate is toooo low :P
But the capacity..

by 2009 it will be selling disks with up to 1.6 terabyte (TB) capacity.

Then I wonder.. -> Publicity? Market Share??

Any reactions?

[Rob]

27 MB sounds per sec sound pretty quick to me. What's dvd, just over 1 MByte isn't it?

[erdega79]

Dvd is 9.6Mb or 1.2MB.
27MB is pretty good for now now but it might be to slow for the future where there is TB discs and drives and all the media gets better and bigger. However I am also sure they'll work on it and fix it in time.

[Blackraven]

But isn't there another technology that is expected to be more advanced than this one?


What about the Colossal Disc which claims to be a far, more superior disc format that once released and if released, can store data amounting to 10 Terabytes (is this figure correct?????)


Plus, it's company, Colossal Storage Corp., says this disc will:

-have the lowest price per gigabyte
-lowest power consumption per gigabyte
-highest bit data density
-longest shell life of 100 years
-fastest data transfer speed (if this product is ever released)
-and will not be affected by any high energy rays (effective for use in outer space)


Heck, it really appears that their plans to make an ultimate storage disc seems like pure science fiction. I also think that stuff like these wouldn't be possible til like (2050?) but if they plan to make this thing before 2020, then I can say that the future is much much closer than we think.



But going back to Inphase's Holographic technology,


I can say that it is already a revolution in man's quest for progress and R&D. I mean just think when an even newer generation of console's hit the market by 2010.


How will we use the space that one can put on a holographic disc?

[th3archiv3]

by then blu-ray will be even better in its technology and have superior stuff to this but for now lets stick to the blu-ray topic since that still hasnt come out in usa yet

[th3archiv3]

and if it correct that it gets down data to a molecular size then that would be the end of biggger data storage cuz barely anything is smaller then a molecule but the ring theory that is a "theory" about bands of rings in a atom constantly jiggleing around

[thunderhawk]

Originally Posted by th3archiv3

and if it correct that it gets down data to a molecular size then that would be the end of biggger data storage cuz barely anything is smaller then a molecule but the ring theory that is a "theory" about bands of rings in a atom constantly jiggleing around

Erm, it says that the Colossal Storage idea is getting structure in the electrons that are floating around in an iongrid (I hope thats the correct translation)

And its string theory, not ring theory.
And what have strings to do with data storage :?
Strings cannot float in space-time, only at very high energy levels... Approaching the Planck energy level... That was at the beginning of space and time!? Such high levels can't be produced by anything on the planet. Strings are parts of quarks and quarks are parts of protons, neutrons, etc
The protons dont even split up in quarks in todays particle accelerators (it that spelled correctly?)...

But lets stay on topic...

[thunderhawk]

Lol sorry, just wanted to say that... ops:

But I wonder... About the data storage...... :?
What would happen if you would increase the temperature of the discs, then the internal structure of the discs (the molecules and so) are moved... Collosal Storage Corp.s technology is about putting electrons into a structure, but what if you accelerate the electrons? :?

I think I gotta study on this more...

[thunderhawk]

HVD Alliance - Small Survey




Six firms form the HVD Alliance around 1TB disc
While Sony and Toshiba (among others) are squabbling over Blu-ray and HD-DVD, CMC Fuji Photo, CMC Magnetics, and three other companies have rallied around Optware’s HVD technology—that’s Holographic Versatile Disc—and founded the HVD forum. They may not come out and say it, but they’ve obviously got bigger fish to fry than the small stuff—their HVD format stores 1TB of data on a single CD-sized holographic disc (yes, that’s over 33 times larger than HD-DVD, and 20 times larger than Blu-ray’s capacity).

Six companies including CMC Magnetics Corporation, FUJI PHOTO FILM CO., LTD., Nippon Paint Co., Ltd., Optware Corporation, Pulstec Industrial Co., Ltd. and TOAGOSEI CO., LTD., advocates of "Holographic Versatile Disc (HVD)" announced today to form "HVD Alliance" to accelerate the development of HVD, to develop a marketplace and to promote this revolutionary technology and products. A technical committee, TC44 to discuss the standardization of "Holographic Versatile Disc (HVD)" was approved at 88th Ecma International General Assembly on December 9th 2004. The first TC44 meeting will be held in Tokyo on March 3rd and 4th.

What if HVD gains more supporters?
I see an HVD drive as a nice alternative storage device for massive data backup systems but more?...
Is HVD a thread to BD? Can it become a thread?

[Rob]

What's the timeframe for a potential release? How much are the discs likely to cost? will they be reliable? These are the sorts of questions that need to be answered before any conclusions can be drawn.

[Gorkab]

I see another battle coming... It remembers me something far far away !!!

The BETAMAX

VS

The VHS

VS

The V2000

[thunderhawk]

Originally Posted by Gorkab

I see another battle coming... It remembers me something far far away !!!

The BETAMAX
VS
The VHS
VS
The V2000

Yes... However, I don't think HVD will enter the scene when the HD-DVD vs BD battle is going on...
Proabably later if they enter the 'next-gen DVD' area.

[Rob]

Personally I think that a Holographic format is too far away to be of a threat to Blu-Ray or HD-DVD. Plus it's likely the cost of the 1TByte discs would also put it at a huge disadvantage. Probably to be used at first by businesses looking to replace tape storage.

[Gorkab]

Originally Posted by Rob

Personally I think that a Holographic format is too far away to be of a threat to Blu-Ray or HD-DVD. Plus it's likely the cost of the 1TByte discs would also put it at a huge disadvantage. Probably to be used at first by businesses looking to replace tape storage.

Hoping so... :?

[erdega79]

some news about this

Cypress gains design win in holographic storage

Holographic Memory

[zombie]

Originally Posted by Rob

Personally I think that a Holographic format is too far away to be of a threat to Blu-Ray or HD-DVD.

I'd bet that when the time comes for Blu-ray to be replaced as the home video standard it'll be replaced by something none of us have even heard of yet... an as yet uninvented technology. I would hope so as if were to use holograph discs after BD, it'd be quite outdated upon its release.

[Waelan]

Lets not forget a few issues what kind of security do they hold, will players cost more than current types, can players for them fit into pc slots or will you need special PC cases since they are "cube" shaped. Most importantly they cant play DVDs at all this alone will give them not much of a chance.