Dark Crystal and Labyrinth SD Anniversary Editions!? - Blu-ray Forum

mistersh0w · 06-08-2007, 03:47 PM

Hey Sony! What gives?! They're RE-releasing these amazing movies on SD, which state have a "NEW HIGH DEFINITION TRANSFER", but not on Blu Ray?! What's the deal Sony?!

Link: http://www.muppetcentral.com/news/2007/060607.shtml

JTK · 06-08-2007, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by mistersh0w

Hey Sony! What gives?! They're RE-releasing these amazing movies on SD, which state have a "NEW HIGH DEFINITION TRANSFER", but not on Blu Ray?! What's the deal Sony?!

Link: http://www.muppetcentral.com/news/2007/060607.shtml

Patience. Who says these couldn't show up around Christmas time?

mistersh0w · 06-08-2007, 03:55 PM

I guess they could... But if you do a little digging, you can find the whole press release for these. Would it have killed them to include a mention of these "coming soon" to blu ray?

movies3 · 06-08-2007, 03:59 PM

there are tons of movies that i would like to own on bluray that havent even been talked about yet. so just wait they will come in time

Rustmonsteru · 06-08-2007, 04:08 PM

If you've ever filled out one of the Sony surveys/contest entries for the 46" Bravia
they have a survey section of what movies would you like to see on BD next.
They provide a list of titles and you choose three. Both Dark Crystal & Labyrinth
are on there so I suspect we'll see them on BD eventually.

mistersh0w · 06-08-2007, 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rustmonsteru

If you've ever filled out one of the Sony surveys/contest entries for the 46" Bravia
they have a survey section of what movies would you like to see on BD next.
They provide a list of titles and you choose three. Both Dark Crystal & Labyrinth
are on there so I suspect we'll see them on BD eventually.

Ooo, that's good news... Still, I just don't understand why they announce that these SD versions are from a NEW high definition transfer, and they decide not to use that for blu ray purpouses...

Josh · 06-08-2007, 04:25 PM

Paidgeek had commented that that masters for these movies aren't really that good, making me think it will be a while before we see anything on Blu-ray

Banjo · 06-08-2007, 07:01 PM

Labyrinth will need to go through a heavy restoration, I was quite disappointed with the results on the DVD format. I have the SuperBit edition.

The optical special effect matte lines need to be fixed. It leaps out at you. If it was that bad on the DVD, imagine how bad it will look on Blu-Ray!

mistersh0w · 06-08-2007, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Banjo

Labyrinth will need to go through a heavy restoration, I was quite disappointed with the results on the DVD format. I have the SuperBit edition.

The optical special effect matte lines need to be fixed. It leaps out at you. If it was that bad on the DVD, imagine how bad it will look on Blu-Ray!

Good point. But for these NEW editions, they claim to have made a "high definition" version...

Banjo · 06-08-2007, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by mistersh0w

Good point. But for these NEW editions, they claim to have made a "high definition" version...

They may had made a new HD master; but I doubt they restored it. Walt Disney is one of the very few who do restore their movies. Warner Bros. has done some restorations with some of their older titles.

The rest, not really much.

movies3 · 06-09-2007, 04:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Banjo

They may had made a new HD master; but I doubt they restored it. Walt Disney is one of the very few who do restore their movies. Warner Bros. has done some restorations with some of their older titles.

The rest, not really much.

there again what has warner done right lately??

ryoohki · 06-09-2007, 04:06 PM

The sony insider (PAIDGEEK) on AVS FORUM said that both version aren't planned for 2007 release on Blu-Ray.

Stuie · 06-09-2007, 06:04 PM

That's a shame, they would make me a lovely christmas present.

lupin23rd · 06-12-2007, 06:29 AM

Just curious, where is this survey and what other titles are listed on it as choices? Assuming most of it is stuff that's rumored / announced / delayed?

m

WickyWoo · 06-13-2007, 06:00 PM

Labyrinth and Dark Crystal are owned by Henson, and merely distributed through Sony

So undoubtedly Henson would have to shoulder a large percentage of the burden for any restoration.

In addition, Dark Crystal 2 is currently in pre-production, undoubtedly any HD release would come with that.

Rustmonsteru · 06-13-2007, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by lupin23rd

Just curious, where is this survey and what other titles are listed on it as choices? Assuming most of it is stuff that's rumored / announced / delayed?

m

http://www.sonypictures.com/homevideo/bluray/survey/

rmatt · 06-13-2007, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by WickyWoo

Labyrinth and Dark Crystal are owned by Henson, and merely distributed through Sony

So undoubtedly Henson would have to shoulder a large percentage of the burden for any restoration.

In addition, Dark Crystal 2 is currently in pre-production, undoubtedly any HD release would come with that.

WOOHOO! bring on "Muppets take Mannhattan"

dialog_gvf · 08-14-2007, 02:12 AM

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Originally Posted by WickyWoo

In addition, Dark Crystal 2 is currently in pre-production, undoubtedly any HD release would come with that.

Oooo!

The Power of the Dark Crystal

WickyWoo · 08-14-2007, 02:19 AM

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WOOHOO! bring on "Muppets take Mannhattan"

The rights on it are very confusing. Like "Muppets From Space", it is partially owned by Sony, who were co-financeers.

As I understand it, the plan is for Disney to eventually buy out both films, so I doubt they'll spend a lot of time/money. Much more dissapointingly, I'm doubting Disney will release the others in HD till they have the set

DaViD Boulet · 08-14-2007, 09:29 PM

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The optical special effect matte lines need to be fixed. It leaps out at you. If it was that bad on the DVD, imagine how bad it will look on Blu-Ray!

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Labyrinth and Dark Crystal are owned by Henson, and merely distributed through Sony

So undoubtedly Henson would have to shoulder a large percentage of the burden for any restoration.

This is classic misunderstanding of "film" and what "restoration" means.

People. The matte lines are exactly the way they looked on the finished film that was printed to (exquisite) 35mm prints and projected 50-feet wide at theaters in the 1980s. That's how the film looks. Just like you could see the cables lifting the flying car in Blade Runner in the theater. Just like you could see the bad matte-effects on some of the Star Wars films and David Lynch's Dune.

No "restoration" needs to be done to correct these things. I saw a 35mm print of Labyrinth and Dune projected within the last few years (at a Henson film festival) and they looked gorgeous. Just digitize them to 1080p and we're good to go. Digitally air-brushing away matte effects that were visible and present in the original film prints isn't "resotration", it's "digital modification", and no connisour of these films should consider it necessary or even desireable.

If someone can't handle the look of the film, with its 1980s optical/analog special effects, then you don't need to watch these movies. There are modern CGI films that might better suit your tastes.

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06-08-2007, 03:55 PM	#3
mistersh0w Member Member since:Feb 2007	I guess they could... But if you do a little digging, you can find the whole press release for these. Would it have killed them to include a mention of these "coming soon" to blu ray?

06-08-2007, 03:59 PM	#4
movies3 Blu-ray Guru Member since:Jul 2006 Location:KY Blu-ray collection:5 Blu-ray reviews:56	there are tons of movies that i would like to own on bluray that havent even been talked about yet. so just wait they will come in time

06-08-2007, 04:08 PM	#5
Rustmonsteru Expert Member Member since:Mar 2007	If you've ever filled out one of the Sony surveys/contest entries for the 46" Bravia they have a survey section of what movies would you like to see on BD next. They provide a list of titles and you choose three. Both Dark Crystal & Labyrinth are on there so I suspect we'll see them on BD eventually.

06-08-2007, 04:25 PM	#7
Josh Super Moderator Top contributor Member since:Sep 2006 Home Theater Gallery:50 4K collection:37 Blu-ray collection:407 Digital collection:1 Blu-ray reviews: 15 Trading Score:34	Paidgeek had commented that that masters for these movies aren't really that good, making me think it will be a while before we see anything on Blu-ray

06-08-2007, 07:01 PM	#8
Banjo Blu-ray Guru Member since:Dec 2006 Location:Ontario, Canada Blu-ray collection:143	Labyrinth will need to go through a heavy restoration, I was quite disappointed with the results on the DVD format. I have the SuperBit edition. The optical special effect matte lines need to be fixed. It leaps out at you. If it was that bad on the DVD, imagine how bad it will look on Blu-Ray!

06-09-2007, 04:06 PM	#12
ryoohki Blu-ray Samurai Member since:May 2007 Home Theater Gallery:6 Blu-ray collection:6 Blu-ray reviews:8 Trading Score:5	The sony insider (PAIDGEEK) on AVS FORUM said that both version aren't planned for 2007 release on Blu-Ray.

06-09-2007, 06:04 PM	#13
Stuie Active Member Member since:Apr 2007	That's a shame, they would make me a lovely christmas present.

06-12-2007, 06:29 AM	#14
lupin23rd Member Member since:Mar 2007	Just curious, where is this survey and what other titles are listed on it as choices? Assuming most of it is stuff that's rumored / announced / delayed? m

06-13-2007, 06:00 PM	#15
WickyWoo Blu-ray Champion Member since:May 2007 Trading Score:2	Labyrinth and Dark Crystal are owned by Henson, and merely distributed through Sony So undoubtedly Henson would have to shoulder a large percentage of the burden for any restoration. In addition, Dark Crystal 2 is currently in pre-production, undoubtedly any HD release would come with that.

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