HDMI 1.3 receivers coming soon? - Blu-ray Forum

ay221 · 06-12-2007, 07:59 PM

I thought the hdmi 1.3 receivers should be out by now? Are there here, or is it best to wait a few months more?

WriteSimply · 06-12-2007, 08:00 PM

The first one is already released. Onkyo 605. Read the thread here.

fuad

ra1024 · 06-13-2007, 02:01 AM

I was considering getting a pre 1.3 receiver and just letting the PS3 do the decoding and output PCM. I ran across a thread over at AVS recently where someone said that discs authored in advanced mode can't be sent as PCM so you have to have a 1.3 receiver. It sounded like they were saying this was a DRM issue and players weren't allowed to decode these discs and had to output bitstream. Does anyone know if this is correct?

jcdDigix · 06-13-2007, 03:07 AM

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Originally Posted by ay221

I thought the hdmi 1.3 receivers should be out by now? Are there here, or is it best to wait a few months more?

ONKYO
http://www.crutchfield.com/S-ZPBeR5P...0&I=580TXS805B
$500 more than the 605...But I like the specs.

JToddler · 06-13-2007, 03:53 AM

watch out for the Sony STR-DA7200ES or even the Sony STR-DA9200ES

JToddler · 06-13-2007, 03:55 AM

The Sony STR-DA7100ES that I own has 2 HDMI inputs but Sony has to release an update and I don't know when is that!

coolmilo · 06-13-2007, 04:17 AM

I know the higher end preamps and receivers will be out at the end of the year. I contacted both Anthem and B&K to find out their plans and both told me the same story. 2008 should be a huge year for the HD market because we should see all kinds of products out there supporting the latest specs. CES 2008 should be an eye opener for HD as well.

jcdDigix · 06-13-2007, 04:46 AM

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Originally Posted by SumYonGuy

The Sony STR-DA7100ES that I own has 2 HDMI inputs but Sony has to release an update and I don't know when is that!

I purchased that AVR the same week it went out $2000. I was hoping SONY would release a firmware upgrade as soon as the first BD player got out (at least 1080p upscaling). I searched the net in vain. Where did you hear about that?

ps3andlovinit · 06-13-2007, 05:06 AM

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Originally Posted by coolmilo

I know the higher end preamps and receivers will be out at the end of the year. I contacted both Anthem and B&K to find out their plans and both told me the same story. 2008 should be a huge year for the HD market because we should see all kinds of products out there supporting the latest specs. CES 2008 should be an eye opener for HD as well.

Anthem said that they will be doing HDMI 1.1 .. that 1.3 isn't necessary and they give reasons why.. here is the link

link..http://www.anthemav.com/NewSitev2.0/...M30_40_50.html

there is an HDMI faq download link in pdf on that page.

Anybody able to chime in on what I features I would NOT actually be able to use in combo with the PS3 right now..and does anybody see anything coming relatively soon that contradicts what they are saying in terms of the other features the faq talks about.

HDJK · 06-13-2007, 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by ps3andlovinit

Anybody able to chime in on what I features I would NOT actually be able to use in combo with the PS3 right now.

You won't be able to get DTS-HD MA right now. It is not clear if it is possible to send the bitstream over HDMI, also there is no definitive word on a firmware upgrade with DTS-HD MA decoding.

Helicon · 06-13-2007, 12:12 PM

I was at a staff meeting yesterday.

We where informed that the DTS-HD Master standard isn't finished yet.

That's why new Denon receiveres, for instance the 4308 won't have the DTS-HD Master logo on the front.

There is no guarantee that current receivers with Master decoding, will keep working properly.

That's why many companies are holding back. The standard shold be completely finished this autum.

ps3andlovinit · 06-13-2007, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by HDJK

You won't be able to get DTS-HD MA right now. It is not clear if it is possible to send the bitstream over HDMI, also there is no definitive word on a firmware upgrade with DTS-HD MA decoding.

thanks

blackpixels · 06-13-2007, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ay221

I thought the hdmi 1.3 receivers should be out by now? Are there here, or is it best to wait a few months more?

I would expect to see most mfg's presenting units @ 2007 Cedia in Sep and to market by years end. Some high end companies are saying 1.3 isn't necessary. Here's Onkyo's unit:

http://www.electronicsforless.ca/Pro...=644&view=tech

Footloose301 · 06-13-2007, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by jcdDigix

ONKYO
http://www.crutchfield.com/S-ZPBeR5P...0&I=580TXS805B
$500 more than the 605...But I like the specs.

Where the heck have I been? I've been waiting eagerly for this to come out and crutchfield has them in stock. Looks like this puppy is mine

WriteSimply · 06-13-2007, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ra1024

I was considering getting a pre 1.3 receiver and just letting the PS3 do the decoding and output PCM. I ran across a thread over at AVS recently where someone said that discs authored in advanced mode can't be sent as PCM so you have to have a 1.3 receiver. It sounded like they were saying this was a DRM issue and players weren't allowed to decode these discs and had to output bitstream. Does anyone know if this is correct?

I believe this is for HD-DVD and not for BD.

As far as BD is concerned, you have a choice.

The difference stems from player decoding (which apart from the PS3 is not widespread) and receiver decoding. With player decoding, you can hear all the lossless audio that's encoded on the disc plus all the INTERACTIVE AUDIO that's embedded by the activation of extra features playback. With receiver decoding, you lose out on all the interactive audio but you still get the main feature audio.

It's not about DRM.

fuad

ay221 · 06-13-2007, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by WriteSimply

I believe this is for HD-DVD and not for BD.

As far as BD is concerned, you have a choice.

The difference stems from player decoding (which apart from the PS3 is not widespread) and receiver decoding. With player decoding, you can hear all the lossless audio that's encoded on the disc plus all the INTERACTIVE AUDIO that's embedded by the activation of extra features playback. With receiver decoding, you lose out on all the interactive audio but you still get the main feature audio.

It's not about DRM.

fuad

So, likes others have said, getting hdmi 1.3 is no real benefit?

Canada · 06-13-2007, 08:28 PM

Paradigm speakers I am jealous I have some Sony speakers they sound good don't get me wrong but I would like some Paradigm Reference Studio 20 v.4 Speakers

Gremal · 06-13-2007, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Canada

Paradigm speakers I am jealous I have some Sony speakers they sound good don't get me wrong but I would like some Paradigm Reference Studio 20 v.4 Speakers

I just sold my B&W Nautilus 802s to a guy who used to have the Paradigms.

crunchywyte · 06-13-2007, 09:04 PM

I've posted this on a few other threads...but it is a good deal and I want to make sure all are aware , I pre-ordered the Onkyo 605 at www.jr.com for 399, it is a pre-order, but it is 100 off!

JToddler · 06-13-2007, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Canada

Paradigm speakers I am jealous I have some Sony speakers they sound good don't get me wrong but I would like some Paradigm Reference Studio 20 v.4 Speakers

Yes Paradigm speakears are great. Make sure to get the Reference Studio series!

http://www.audio-one.ca/

http://www.paradigm.com/en/reference/news/

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06-12-2007, 08:00 PM	#2
WriteSimply Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Sep 2006 Location:Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia	The first one is already released. Onkyo 605. Read the thread here. fuad

06-13-2007, 02:01 AM	#3
ra1024 Senior Member Member since:Jan 2007 Blu-ray reviews:4 Trading Score:1	I was considering getting a pre 1.3 receiver and just letting the PS3 do the decoding and output PCM. I ran across a thread over at AVS recently where someone said that discs authored in advanced mode can't be sent as PCM so you have to have a 1.3 receiver. It sounded like they were saying this was a DRM issue and players weren't allowed to decode these discs and had to output bitstream. Does anyone know if this is correct?

06-13-2007, 03:53 AM	#5
JToddler Active Member Member since:Oct 2006 Blu-ray reviews:1	watch out for the Sony STR-DA7200ES or even the Sony STR-DA9200ES

06-13-2007, 03:55 AM	#6
JToddler Active Member Member since:Oct 2006 Blu-ray reviews:1	The Sony STR-DA7100ES that I own has 2 HDMI inputs but Sony has to release an update and I don't know when is that!

06-13-2007, 04:17 AM	#7
coolmilo Blu-ray Guru Member since:Jan 2007 Location:Silicon Valley Home Theater Gallery:16 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:2	I know the higher end preamps and receivers will be out at the end of the year. I contacted both Anthem and B&K to find out their plans and both told me the same story. 2008 should be a huge year for the HD market because we should see all kinds of products out there supporting the latest specs. CES 2008 should be an eye opener for HD as well.

06-13-2007, 12:12 PM	#11
Helicon Active Member Member since:Jan 2007 Location:Denmark	I was at a staff meeting yesterday. We where informed that the DTS-HD Master standard isn't finished yet. That's why new Denon receiveres, for instance the 4308 won't have the DTS-HD Master logo on the front. There is no guarantee that current receivers with Master decoding, will keep working properly. That's why many companies are holding back. The standard shold be completely finished this autum.

06-13-2007, 08:28 PM	#17
Canada Blu-ray Archduke Top contributor Member since:Mar 2007 Location:Victoria, BC Home Theater Gallery:17 4K collection:305 Blu-ray collection:1201 DVD collection:37 Blu-ray reviews:42	Paradigm speakers I am jealous I have some Sony speakers they sound good don't get me wrong but I would like some Paradigm Reference Studio 20 v.4 Speakers

06-13-2007, 09:04 PM	#19
crunchywyte Senior Member Member since:Apr 2007 Location:Jacksonville, FL Blu-ray collection:64 Blu-ray reviews:16	I've posted this on a few other threads...but it is a good deal and I want to make sure all are aware , I pre-ordered the Onkyo 605 at www.jr.com for 399, it is a pre-order, but it is 100 off!

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