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Old 11-18-2015, 09:14 PM   #1161
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If the Signature line were the original grainy scanned negatives (like Watership Down, The Land Before time etc.), I would pay even $100 for each!
But that won't happen, so I might as well keep dreaming.
Just like an uncensored version of Fantasia and a 4k release of Song of the South.
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Old 11-18-2015, 09:17 PM   #1162
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I haven't bought any of the Disney films because of their idiotic "process". Just like I don't buy DNR'ed or substandard transfers.
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Old 11-18-2015, 09:22 PM   #1163
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Disney is never going to re release their movies with grain intact... not in 100 years. They're not going to do remasters, either. They may update their catalogue down the line with 4k issues of blus, (apparently they've already 4k'd all their catalogue anyways) but I honestly think even for the next batch of movies they re-release out of the vault, they're just going to do a very simple reprint of the same transfers, just with less special features, and worse packaging.

the only upside to these new releases, is, they'll have gotten rid of bluray live, and they'll start including standard digital hd codes.
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Old 11-18-2015, 09:46 PM   #1164
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If the Signature line were the original grainy scanned negatives (like Watership Down, The Land Before time etc.), I would pay even $100 for each!
Disney doesn't even act like they still exist for Snow White. They haven't touched them since the 80's. All releases of Snow White, both video and theatrical, since 1993 have all been based on the digital files created back then. The 50th Anniversary release in 1987 was the last release to not be from a digital intermediate source.
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Old 11-18-2015, 11:17 PM   #1165
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Just got an email that it is being released as a ''Signature Edition'' on Feb 2nd 2016... That definitely came out of the blue.
Well, no, not really.
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Old 11-19-2015, 04:44 AM   #1166
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the only upside to these new releases, is, they'll have gotten rid of bluray live, and they'll start including standard digital hd codes.
This is one thing I'm most excited about with them hopefully starting from the beginning again, the ability to get the Digital HD codes with the Blu-rays.
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Old 11-19-2015, 10:04 AM   #1167
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Disney doesn't even act like they still exist for Snow White. They haven't touched them since the 80's. All releases of Snow White, both video and theatrical, since 1993 have all been based on the digital files created back then. The 50th Anniversary release in 1987 was the last release to not be from a digital intermediate source.
That explains the interlacing glitch present on all the DVDs of Alice in Wonderland.
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Old 11-19-2015, 10:38 AM   #1168
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That explains the interlacing glitch present on all the DVDs of Alice in Wonderland.
The interlacing glitch you speak of (assuming you're referring to the court scene where Alice says "I'm not a mile high!") actually appears to be a defect of the original photography. I noticed a similar "blur" effect in quite a number of shots on the new "Land Before Time" blu-ray and every home video incarnation I've seen of "Snow White" (IIRC it was pointed out earlier in this thread)
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Old 11-19-2015, 02:00 PM   #1169
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That explains the interlacing glitch present on all the DVDs of Alice in Wonderland.
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The interlacing glitch you speak of (assuming you're referring to the court scene where Alice says "I'm not a mile high!") actually appears to be a defect of the original photography. I noticed a similar "blur" effect in quite a number of shots on the new "Land Before Time" blu-ray and every home video incarnation I've seen of "Snow White" (IIRC it was pointed out earlier in this thread)
Exactly, and the same defect happens during the "Walrus and the Carpenter" scene when the Walrus pinches the oyster's cheek underwater. Alice's interlacing is inherent to the original source. Not only is it on every home video version (VHS, LD, DVD, and BD), but I have a 35mm print from possibly the 60s (haven't been able to find concrete dating info on it), and the interlacing is on it, too. I'm not sure how that happens, but it's almost like a few frames get burned into the camera momentarily and remain as the next one is being filmed. Maybe a case of the photographers moving too quickly when snapping the frames?
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Old 11-19-2015, 02:59 PM   #1170
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That explains the interlacing glitch present on all the DVDs of Alice in Wonderland.
Not... really. I don't see how the two are related at all.
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Old 11-19-2015, 05:09 PM   #1171
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Email from where? Any more details...
I work at a retail store and we got an email yesterday about upcoming Disney releases, and among them was "Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs - Signature Edition" set for Feb 2nd 2016.
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I work at a retail store and we got an email yesterday about upcoming Disney releases, and among them was "Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs - Signature Edition" set for Feb 2nd 2016.
Anything else interesting coming listed from Disney?
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Old 11-19-2015, 06:07 PM   #1173
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here's how disney can guarantee i will buy the next round of physical releases for their movies.

- gorgeous, and consistent cover artwork across all 54 DACs
- definitive and reference-quality picture and audio
- an informative and comprehensive making-of documentary
- audio commentaries from animation historians, directors, animators, or involved personnel

items two and three are deal breakers. i don't own a 4K TV, and i don't anticipate owning one for many years. unless the film has been restored and remastered to a pristine condition, i ain't buyin'.

same goes for the documentary. i want these releases to be the de facto point of reference for these movies. they are integral components of film history, and need to be treated as such (regardless of whether the movie was good or not). including a documentary legitimises more releases, and would be a major improvement over many of the bluray releases.

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Old 11-19-2015, 07:10 PM   #1174
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- definitive and reference-quality picture and audio
- an informative and comprehensive making-of documentary
These two are key for me. I loved the making-of documentary included with Beauty and the Beast, not to mention how fantastic it looked in BD.
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If this is true, I guess Disney is going to skip Pinocchio in the diamond line. That would be a big bummer. I selfishly was hoping they would release that one next, Pinocchio and Fantasia are the only Disney movies that I need.
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Disney doesn't even act like they still exist for Snow White. They haven't touched them since the 80's. All releases of Snow White, both video and theatrical, since 1993 have all been based on the digital files created back then. The 50th Anniversary release in 1987 was the last release to not be from a digital intermediate source.
Source? Cause that's the first time I'm hearing this

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(Sean Ferguson): Hi, this is Sean Ferguson with Why So Blu.com. Now that you can create these new transfers based on the original negative, are you planning to go back to the previous releases, like “Sleeping Beauty,” “Snow White,” and use the original element there?

(Sarah Duran-Singer): We actually have. Any – those Blu-rays were – they were done in the same manner that we did “Dumbo.”

(Sean Ferguson): Oh, I thought I heard you say that you weren’t able to do that until “Bambi.”

(Sarah Duran-Singer): Oh, well, yes, but “Bambi” was the first one was did in 2003, so anything after 2003 was done in this manner.

(Sean Ferguson): OK.

(Sarah Duran-Singer): “Sleeping Beauty” was our first Blu-ray that was done. And then we did “Snow White.” It just came out on Blu-ray a year-and-a-half ago.
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Source? Cause that's the first time I'm hearing this
American Cinematographer, September 1993 issue.

You do remember where your library is, yes?
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I'll assume you mean skip in line rather than skip completely. I'll assume it just means a Fall Release for Pinocchio and Fantasia for 2017 since it was a Fall 2010 release. 7 years appears to about the re-release cycle right now for Blurays.
Sleeping Beauty was 6 but I'll assume Maleficent has a say on that one.
Fantasia wasn't released as a Diamond Edition, nor a Platinum edition though.
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American Cinematographer, September 1993 issue.

You do remember where your library is, yes?
If your source is from 1993, then it's complete speculation on your part for anything after that point.
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Fantasia wasn't released as a Diamond Edition, nor a Platinum edition though.
Funny thing Fantasia is a Diamond edition in Japan instead of Bambi.
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