Oldboy (2003) (4K remaster) from Arrow

[professorwho]

I'm keeping my pre-order of the Oldboy LE as it would be inconvenient to re-order for the trilogy box set- plus, I'd be missing out on the book.

But... it would mean better packaging. I've always hated Digipaks, but Arrow had to use the worst kind out there. Perfect.

[TripleHBK]

I pre-ordered the LE set on June 1st and my Amazon order still reflects that I'll be receiving this between October 4th and 9th here in the states. I ordered this for Oldboy and am still very much looking forward to the release as while I'm ecstatic to be getting the other films, I've never seen them and so have no idea if I'll like them or not. I only still have the original Tartan release of Oldboy so getting a new (to me) remaster and the book remains a huge selling point.

[nishomac]

I can see a third party seller selling this for twice
the price on amazon so has The this actually been released

£43.97 New
+ £2.15 Delivery
coseon-de
90% positive (1,349 seller ratings)

[Ste7en]

They may have ordered direct from Arrow or they may be listing it prior to release, that happens a bit.

[LordCrumb]

I was never interested in the book, so i cancelled my order and will re-order the new Amaray boxed set.

[Spiderwalk]

Can anyone tell me please if the Sympathy for Mr. Vengeance and Lady Vengeance discs in this set are an improvement over the old Palisades Tartan releases?

I've got the Ltd Edition set on pre-order, but I'm not too keen on the packaging after watching the unboxing video. I already own all three films on BD, and I can't decide whether to stick with my old Tartan discs for Sympathy and Lady Vengeance and just get the remastered Oldboy 2-Disc edition or wait until the new Trilogy set comes out in December.

Basically, I would really like to know how good the Sympathy for Mr. Vengeance and Lady Vengeance discs are before it's too late to cancel the pre-order. I'm guessing it will probably ship next Wednesday or thereabouts. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

[Ste7en]

Wouldn't we all

As far as I can tell Sympathy and Lady are existing masters so the only thing different will be the encode. Which could make all the difference.

[rapta]

As much as I like the new artwork for The Vengeance Trilogy set, I don't exactly hate the Oldboy LE artwork and actually appreciate the efforts to make something different with that design. I don't think I own a hardcover slipbox edition that splits in half like that, and it has an 100-page booklet and poster, not to mention being £5 cheaper. I don't think the discs are in the right order (shouldn't the Oldboy discs be in the other case?) but I may swap them around.

By comparison, I probably would've got The Ring Collection LE on pre-order if it was a little cheaper (£30 would've been more sensible) but ended up getting the steelbook (with a slim booklet) and later got the standard edition of The Ring Collection from eBay for cheap (just under £20). That was a clear case of the original film being superior though, so I only really wanted the discs for the other two films. I like all three of The Vengeance Trilogy films, and Lady Vengeance is actually my favourite.

I actually have this pre-ordered from HMV, Base and Amazon so will be cancelling at least one of those orders. I might keep two though just in case one of them arrives damaged (I've nearly been screwed over in the past).

Originally Posted by Ste7en

Wouldn't we all

As far as I can tell Sympathy and Lady are existing masters so the only thing different will be the encode. Which could make all the difference.

Didn't somebody already confirm David Mackenzie encoded these discs? That would certainly mean these are the best discs currently available for each film...until they eventually remaster Lady Vengeance and Sympathy for Mr Vengeance of course.

PS: I hope this means Arrow will pick up further Korean films of this sort in the near future. I'd especially love Park's own film Joint Security Area, as well as Kim's A Bittersweet Life and A Tale of Two Sisters, and maybe even Bong's Memories of Murder and Snowpiercer!

[Spiderwalk]

Originally Posted by Ste7en

Wouldn't we all

As far as I can tell Sympathy and Lady are existing masters so the only thing different will be the encode. Which could make all the difference.

I was hoping that someone who has already received their set from Arrow might be able to shed some light on the matter.

For example; the Hong Kong release of Lady Vengeance uses a much better master than the Tartan disc:



It would be great if someone could confirm whether the Arrow transfer is one of these or something completely different.

[MifuneFan]

They're getting it from Tartan, so it would almost certainly be the same master they used.

[rapta]

Originally Posted by MifuneFan

They're getting it from Tartan, so it would almost certainly be the same master they used.

I don't know if they are? I think Tartan's license from the original distributor has expired and therefore Arrow have picked it up, like they did for The Ring Collection and a few other films. The back of the box on that YouTube unboxing implies it has been licensed directly through CJ Entertainment, so presumably they are supplying the masters.

[nishomac]

Guys what’s the issue with amazon, any update ?

[MifuneFan]

Originally Posted by rapta

I don't know if they are? I think Tartan's license from the original distributor has expired and therefore Arrow have picked it up, like they did for The Ring Collection and a few other films. The back of the box on that YouTube unboxing implies it has been licensed directly through CJ Entertainment, so presumably they are supplying the masters.

Sorry, I didn't mean to say they're licensing directly from Tartan, but that they're getting a lot of former Tartan titles, so presumably the masters would be the same, but who knows.

[paulboland]

Originally Posted by nishomac

Guys what’s the issue with amazon, any update ?

Amazon have Oldboy 4 Disc Limited Edition listed as September 23rd that is the wrong release date
Amazon UK emails get sent auto when estimated delivery date in your order listed has passed but not shipped yet
Amazon don't have stock yet as it not released until October 7th

Arrow will be shipping stock to retailers for October 7th release date as that is the date they provided retailers as the release date.

Oldboy both 4 Disc Limited Edition and 2 Disc Amaray releases
Release date is October 7th for retailers

Amazon forgot to update website listing for the Oldboy 4 Disc limited edition but did update website for Oldboy 2 disc amaray release.

All retailers was informed on September 6th that the release changed to October 7th

This why Zavvi/HMV/Base have release date listed as October 7th for the 4 Disc Limited Edition and the 2 Disc Amaray releases

Amazon just need to correct the release date on their website for the 4 disc limited edition to October 7th and this will auto create new estimated delivery date on customers orders


I have told Amazon 3 times already this week to correct the release date for the 4 Disc Limited Edition to October 7th but they still not done it yet

[Rutger Lundgren]

Originally Posted by rapta

PS: I hope this means Arrow will pick up further Korean films of this sort in the near future. I'd especially love Park's own film Joint Security Area, as well as Kim's A Bittersweet Life and A Tale of Two Sisters, and maybe even Bong's Memories of Murder and Snowpiercer!

I'm not really a Bong fan, and certainly not a Snowpiercer fan, but I'd like to see Arrow bring over the rest, together with Im's The Housemaid. Also, not exactly a film of the same type, but Lee's Oasis would be lovely, and I'd LOVE to get a good Blu-ray version of the other Kim's Time, since it's one of my favourites.

If a good UK version is not announced soon, I'll just grab Budblu's release of A Bittersweet Life. It's pretty expensive to import, but it looks like an amazing package.

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[nishomac]

Thanks, there is hope then for pre ordered customers

[paulboland]

I have sent a direct message to Arrow Video to get Amazon UK to correct the release date on their website for the limited edition


Amazon not listening to customers telling them they have wrong release date just the usual we will pass on the message to relevant department

Either that message is not been passed on or the relevant department is just not bothering to correct it on the website.


Hopefully Arrow contacting amazon will get it corrected.

[Magyalmar]

Originally Posted by Rutger Lundgren

I'm not really a Bong fan, and certainly not a Snowpiercer fan, but I'd like to see Arrow bring over the rest, together with Im's The Housemaid. Also, not exactly a film of the same type, but Lee's Oasis would be lovely, and I'd LOVE to get a good Blu-ray version of the other Kim's Time, since it's one of my favourites.

If a good UK version is not announced soon, I'll just grab Budblu's release of A Bittersweet Life. It's pretty expensive to import, but it looks like an amazing package.

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There's so much diversity in the Korean cinema but it's always the same type of movies (basically dark thrillers) that get a recognition in Europe. I'd really love to see at least an Amaray release in the UK for such gems as Castaway on the Moon, Miracle in Cell #7, The Grand Heist, Spring Summer Winter and Spring, Take Care of my Cat, As One, Saving My Hubby, Barking Dogs Never Bite...

Although those movies might be more appropriate for Eureka or Curzon.

[jackranderson]

[Show spoiler]

Originally Posted by rapta

As much as I like the new artwork for The Vengeance Trilogy set, I don't exactly hate the Oldboy LE artwork and actually appreciate the efforts to make something different with that design. I don't think I own a hardcover slipbox edition that splits in half like that, and it has an 100-page booklet and poster, not to mention being £5 cheaper. I don't think the discs are in the right order (shouldn't the Oldboy discs be in the other case?) but I may swap them around.

By comparison, I probably would've got The Ring Collection LE on pre-order if it was a little cheaper (£30 would've been more sensible) but ended up getting the steelbook (with a slim booklet) and later got the standard edition of The Ring Collection from eBay for cheap (just under £20). That was a clear case of the original film being superior though, so I only really wanted the discs for the other two films. I like all three of The Vengeance Trilogy films, and Lady Vengeance is actually my favourite.

I actually have this pre-ordered from HMV, Base and Amazon so will be cancelling at least one of those orders. I might keep two though just in case one of them arrives damaged (I've nearly been screwed over in the past).



Didn't somebody already confirm David Mackenzie encoded these discs? That would certainly mean these are the best discs currently available for each film...until they eventually remaster Lady Vengeance and Sympathy for Mr Vengeance of course.

PS: I hope this means Arrow will pick up further Korean films of this sort in the near future. I'd especially love Park's own film Joint Security Area, as well as Kim's A Bittersweet Life and A Tale of Two Sisters, and maybe even Bong's Memories of Murder and Snowpiercer!

Tartans release of A Tale of Two Sisters is perfectly fine but it’s such an incredible movie that I’d happily double dip. Seriously one of the best blind buys of my life and only £6 at FOPP. An arrow release with lots of extras...day 1.

[reason108]

Originally Posted by private_joker

Has anybody actually had their copy from Amazon? It's not actually due out until the 7th, maybe Amazon haven't received their stock yet. It has had a mixed up release date. I've contacted Arrow to see if Amazon have had their lot.

I have not received my order yet. Nor have I received the email that others have been getting pertaining to stock. My order on Amazon does not show dispatched yet. But, they say Wednesday as the day I should expect to receive it. I'm thinking probably not. So, still waiting like everyone else. Hopefully Amazon will update their info soon so things will be clarified for all. But, if for some reason I do receive it this upcoming week then I will let everyone know.