The Shining (1980)

[thatguamguy]

Originally Posted by Banned User

This makes me think it is Kubrick's preferred cut, but who knows.

The thing is, there are three cuts of "The Shining" which were officially released in theatres, all of which were cut by Kubrick.

The first cut was pulled from theaters after a week or two and has never been allowed to be released any further.

The second cut played in the US theaters, and has been the only cut available in the US on television and home video. The third cut is the shorter, international cut, and (I think) has been the only cut available in those markets up until now.

So if Kubrick had a strong preference for either cut, why would he allow his not-preferred cut to be available to millions of viewers? He definitely blocked future releases of the cut we know that he liked the least.

I'm not saying it's impossible that he would deliberately force some countries to watch a cut he considered inferior, but it doesn't make much sense to me that he would. What makes sense to me is that the two cuts had some different creative goals, and that he felt that both cuts met those goals to a degree which satisfied him.

[jackinbox]

Originally Posted by thatguamguy

He took a boat just to be there for the premiere; I've seen some claims that he was actually still editing on the boat, but I'm not sure I believe that.

Oh wow...I never knew that. That's interesting.

[Jar Jar Stinks]

The question is whether the 4K release will have a new remastered International Cut BD. I suspect not. I'm guessing it will either be a new extended cut BD or the old International cut disc.

[battlechateau]

I'm still holding out hope that we could see a Blu-ray release for the 1997 mini series. Don't get me wrong, I love Kubrick's movie but I also appreciate the book faithful adaption.

[Kyle15]

The series is so dry, unaffecting, and moodless, its faithfulness is cancelled out imo.
I do think it should be re-released for preservation's sake though.

[The Vortex]

Originally Posted by battlechateau

I'm still holding out hope that we could see a Blu-ray release for the 1997 mini series. Don't get me wrong, I love Kubrick's movie but I also appreciate the book faithful adaption.

Most annoying kid in a movie ever?

[The Batman Professor]

Originally Posted by The Vortex

Most annoying kid in a movie ever?

For me it’s between him and the kid in THE LEGO MOVIE. Both reek of “casting director moppet.”

I’ll take Bob in HOUSE BY THE CEMETERY any day.

[battlechateau]

So after a little digging, I found out the 1997 series did receive a re-release last October, but it was DVD only. So I have to assume either HD masters don't exist or they can't be bothered to remaster it. The IT mini series was released in 1990 and received a HD master, though that might be because it's more critically acclaimed than Shining's mini series. Regardless, I might just purchase the 2018 release and keep that until a Blu-ray releases.

Edit: I stand corrected. An HD version of this series does exist and was aired on TWC a few years back, now known as Spectrum. So armed with that new information, I'm left to assume no Blu-ray version was produced because of the general reception it received. Guess we can mark this down under HD content that will forever be constrained to DVDs.

[critterdvd]

Originally Posted by battlechateau

So after a little digging, I found out the 1997 series did receive a re-release last October, but it was DVD only. So I have to assume either HD masters don't exist or they can't be bothered to remaster it. The IT mini series was released in 1990 and received a HD master, though that might be because it's more critically acclaimed than Shining's mini series. Regardless, I might just purchase the 2018 release and keep that until a Blu-ray releases.

Edit: I stand corrected. An HD version of this series does exist and was aired on TWC a few years back, now known as Spectrum. So armed with that new information, I'm left to assume no Blu-ray version was produced because of the general reception it received. Guess we can mark this down under HD content that will forever be constrained to DVDs.

I honestly thought we would get a blu-ray release to coincide with "Doctor Sleep" but that obviously isn't going to happen. Which is surprising since this is King's preferred adaptation (It's my preferred adaptation of the book as well, but I do admit that the Kubrick movie is a fantastic film), and it was a ratings hit back in the 90s when it first aired.

[FilmFreakosaurus]

Originally Posted by critterdvd

I honestly thought we would get a blu-ray release to coincide with "Doctor Sleep" but that obviously isn't going to happen. Which is surprising since this is King's preferred adaptation (It's my preferred adaptation of the book as well, but I do admit that the Kubrick movie is a fantastic film), and it was a ratings hit back in the 90s when it first aired.

It may be a little bit closer to the book and was actually partially filmed at The Stanley Hotel (the inspiration for the Overlook), but that TV version was lousy. The effects were laughable.


The only thing good about it was Rebecca De Mornay, and that was mainly because of she and her night attire.


Kubrick took King's novel and visually made it a masterpiece. I think King is mostly jealous, mostly.

[CreasyBear]

The Stand mini-series was solid. The IT mini-series was serviceable for the time. The Shining mini-series was an abomination. Truly awful. None of the sense of dread or atmosphere that was in the Kubrick film or novel.

[Lyle_JP]

Originally Posted by CreasyBear

The Stand mini-series was solid. The IT mini-series was serviceable for the time. The Shining mini-series was an abomination. Truly awful. None of the sense of dread or atmosphere that was in the Kubrick film or novel.

I wouldn't go that far, but it had two huge problems. The actor playing Danny wasn't good, and there was no justification (other than money, of course) for stretching it out over three nights. The pacing is terrible, and often repetitive. This would have benefited greatly from being a two-night event rather than three.

[bonehica]

Originally Posted by FilmFreakosaurus

I think King is mostly jealous, mostly.

[jlyon1515]

So... in the newly released 4k version, is the tennis ball yellow/green or pink? I did a search of the thread, but found no reference to pink in the last 6 months.

[Cherokee Jack]

Originally Posted by jlyon1515

So... in the newly released 4k version, is the tennis ball yellow/green or pink? I did a search of the thread, but found no reference to pink in the last 6 months.

It's yellow. There are screen grabs buried somewhere in the massive UHD thread.

[I KEEL YOU]

I've noticed that caps-a-holic put up caps of the remastered 1080p blu ray. Here's the comparison against the old blu ray:

https://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?d1=13412&d2=13419&c=5256

[Ricky G]

Originally Posted by OgamiittoMcJ

original sound was mono,
here's a good comparison of different home video releases and the various changes over the years

Home Video Philology: A Case Study of “The Shining� (1980) - Abridged for YouTube - YouTube

Wow I bought the bluray a couple months ago;still have not watched it, but damn it looks incredible. I was thinking of getting the 4K today, but I can't imagine it looking much better than this....

am I wrong here guys??

[Cremildo]

Originally Posted by Ricky G

Wow I bought the bluray a couple months ago;still have not watched it, but damn it looks incredible. I was thinking of getting the 4K today, but I can't imagine it looking much better than this....

am I wrong here guys??

Yes, you're wrong. Check out the UHD thread for comparisons and analyses.

[AllOuttaBubbleGum]

Originally Posted by I KEEL YOU

I've noticed that caps-a-holic put up caps of the remastered 1080p blu ray. Here's the comparison against the old blu ray:

https://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?d1=13412&d2=13419&c=5256

On the HD front, I lean toward the original blu. In comparison, the re-mastered almost looks flat to a fault, and I suspect HDR to SDR complications on the order of what affected the Mi4k re-release of 2001. Still, I may future-proof and snag it in a sale someday, see how it looks in motion.

[MifuneFan]

I feel like everything looks slightly out of focus and/or very soft on the new disc. Maybe it's just that the old one was over-sharpened, overly contrasty or whatever, but in the freezer comparison, most of the text on the cans just look a little blurry. I do like the warmer look of it, though I don't know if that's accurate.