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Old 01-13-2020, 07:40 AM   #221
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Underwater, consider Under the Sea and Amazing Ocean 3D films, both with strong 3D throughout. Amazing stuff. And Aquaman 3D for a great conversion, and Sammy Turtle Tales 1 and 2 for strong CGI computer animation 3D underwater. Underwater has tons of potential, provided the view is clear as it was in Aquaman, and not foggy, as in a real ocean, many times.



There are some great underwater 3D filmed movies to see, I agree.
Obviously I was being to General, I did very much enjoy Aquaman and Turtles Tale is the best 3D I have seen to date on Blu ray at home. I’ve also seen a few that have had misty foggy dark scenes as you mention and that’s what I dislike.
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Turtles Tale is the best 3D I have seen to date on Blu ray at home.
Well that was quite the turnaround lol
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Old 01-13-2020, 01:29 PM   #223
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Well that was quite the turnaround lol
Turtles tale is nothing like real under water 3D, it's a computer generated animation, of course it's going to look good!.
Teach me to keep my mouth shut next time
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Turtles tale is nothing like real under water 3D, it's a computer generated animation, of course it's going to look good!.
Teach me to keep my mouth shut next time
Well the Avatar sequels will be all computer generated animation too, so you should have nothing to fear.
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Old 01-13-2020, 02:38 PM   #225
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Well the Avatar sequels will be all computer generated animation too, so you should have nothing to fear.
Hope so, I'm sure it will be a while yet though !
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Old 01-14-2020, 02:58 PM   #226
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Well the Avatar sequels will be all computer generated animation too, so you should have nothing to fear.
Cameron understands 3D like no one else. Expect Cameron's 3D to blow away the world, again.
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I agree, panman40 was the sceptical one.
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Old 01-14-2020, 04:17 PM   #228
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Underwater, consider Under the Sea and Amazing Ocean 3D films, both with strong 3D throughout. Amazing stuff. And Aquaman 3D for a great conversion, and Sammy Turtle Tales 1 and 2 for strong CGI computer animation 3D underwater. Underwater has tons of potential, provided the view is clear as it was in Aquaman, and not foggy, as in a real ocean, many times.



There are some great underwater 3D filmed movies to see, I agree.
Let’s not forget that Avatar 2 is likely to be 99% CGI, so it is much closer to Sammy or Finding Nemo than the IMAX underwater documentaries...and I don’t think you’ll find too many complaints about 3D rendering in the former.
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Old 01-14-2020, 05:12 PM   #229
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Cameron understands 3D like no one else. Expect Cameron's 3D to blow away the world, again.
Do most people generally accept this? It's been several years since I watched Avatar, so I need to give it another viewing. The 3D was great - but was it the absolute best?

Ghosts of the Abyss was good, but not the most amazing 3D I've seen in a documentary.

I know Cameron is a major 3D fan, obviously, and he's gone way beyond what most directors do by designing and building his own stereo rigs.

His two post-converted efforts were great (particularly so as they weren't filmed with 3D in mind) and, all in all, the man is an absolute legend.

I place the original Terminator, Aliens, The Abyss, Titanic and Avatar amongst my favourite films ...but do people think that Avatar is the best use of 3D in a movie ever. Like I say, it's a long time since I've seen it - but I'm not sure that I do.
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Do most people generally accept this? It's been several years since I watched Avatar, so I need to give it another viewing. The 3D was great - but was it the absolute best?

Ghosts of the Abyss was good, but not the most amazing 3D I've seen in a documentary.

I know Cameron is a major 3D fan, obviously, and he's gone way beyond what most directors do by designing and building his own stereo rigs.

His two post-converted efforts were great (particularly so as they weren't filmed with 3D in mind) and, all in all, the man is an absolute legend.

I place the original Terminator, Aliens, The Abyss, Titanic and Avatar amongst my favourite films ...but do people think that Avatar is the best use of 3D in a movie ever. Like I say, it's a long time since I've seen it - but I'm not sure that I do.
I saw Avatar SEVEN TIMES in IMAX 3D because I was blown away. IMAX in the UK is about £20 ($30). I haven't had a 3D experience quite like it before or since and I include the recent MCU movies which are also incredible.
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Old 01-14-2020, 05:21 PM   #231
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Some people (not me) were impressed by the 3D of Aquaman. I fully expect Cameron to blow that 3D out of the water (no pun intended).
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Old 01-14-2020, 05:23 PM   #232
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Do most people generally accept this? It's been several years since I watched Avatar, so I need to give it another viewing. The 3D was great - but was it the absolute best?

Ghosts of the Abyss was good, but not the most amazing 3D I've seen in a documentary.

I know Cameron is a major 3D fan, obviously, and he's gone way beyond what most directors do by designing and building his own stereo rigs.

His two post-converted efforts were great (particularly so as they weren't filmed with 3D in mind) and, all in all, the man is an absolute legend.

I place the original Terminator, Aliens, The Abyss, Titanic and Avatar amongst my favourite films ...but do people think that Avatar is the best use of 3D in a movie ever. Like I say, it's a long time since I've seen it - but I'm not sure that I do.
It was very good but some of the vintage 3D titles put it to shame (The Bubble, It Came From Outer Space, House Of Wax etc..)

By the way, Aliens and both Terminator films are amongst my absolute faves also.

The only modern films that blew me away 3D wise were ‘The Walk’, ‘Gravity’ and ‘Endgame.’

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Old 01-14-2020, 05:51 PM   #233
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It was very good but some of the vintage 3D titles put it to shame (The Bubble, It Came From Outer Space, House Of Wax etc..)

By the way, Aliens and both Terminator films are amongst my absolute faves also.

The only modern films that blew me away 3D wise were ‘The Walk’, ‘Gravity’ and ‘Endgame.’
I absolutely agree! Whilst The Walk is post-converted, I genuinely believe its use of 3D is significantly better than Avatar's. I also love the film and, taking into account both the quality of the film and the quality of the 3D, I reckon it could be my favourite.
It's weird, I've never been remotely concerned on behalf of a film maker regarding their up-coming films, and James Cameron appears to be an ultra resilient kind of guy - but I'm genuinely worried on his behalf about how well Avatar 2 will be received and how well it will do. Personally, it's by far my most eagerly awaited film - but I'm worried the world will shrug...
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Old 01-14-2020, 05:53 PM   #234
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Some people (not me) were impressed by the 3D of Aquaman. I fully expect Cameron to blow that 3D out of the water (no pun intended).
I was some people on that one, thought Aquaman's 3D was great! Hope JC does an even better job, and I'm very optimistic I'll prefer Avatar 2 purely from a film point of view over Aquaman.
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I absolutely agree! Whilst The Walk is post-converted
The Walk was native 3D wasn’t it?? Did not realise it was post converted. That’s a pretty spectacular conversion and really demonstrates that conversion can be as good as Native if designed for 3D.

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Old 01-14-2020, 11:05 PM   #236
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I absolutely agree! Whilst The Walk is post-converted, I genuinely believe its use of 3D is significantly better than Avatar's. I also love the film and, taking into account both the quality of the film and the quality of the 3D, I reckon it could be my favourite.
It's weird, I've never been remotely concerned on behalf of a film maker regarding their up-coming films, and James Cameron appears to be an ultra resilient kind of guy - but I'm genuinely worried on his behalf about how well Avatar 2 will be received and how well it will do. Personally, it's by far my most eagerly awaited film - but I'm worried the world will shrug...
I really want it to be well received. My love of Aliens, T1&T2 runs very deep, just for that reason alone, I wish him the best.

I think it will be. Disney will have a goldmine on their hands if it does. I’m sure there are huge possibilities for expansion.

Yes, I was awestruck when I watched The Walk. I was surprised the entire film was quite strong, I thought maybe it would be mild until the big event but it was exceptional all the way through.
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I have a GREAT 3D T.V. the SONY-Z9D it utilizes the 3D active glasses, so I'm very much looking forward to the movie but is AVATAR 2 going to be both 3D glasses and non-3D glasses-(different frame rate)? I am very confused here.
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Old 01-15-2020, 04:59 AM   #238
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I have a GREAT 3D T.V. the SONY-Z9D it utilizes the 3D active glasses, so I'm very much looking forward to the movie but is AVATAR 2 going to be both 3D glasses and non-3D glasses-(different frame rate)? I am very confused here.
Yes, there will be 3D and non-3D showings (of course). How the HFR scenes will be utilized remains to be seen. Supposedly only the action sequences will have high frame rates.
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Lukas741 - I have the Sony Z9D as well and I am VERY disappointed in it's 3D performance. Nonstop image ghosting and crosstalk, both with Sony's active glasses and third party actives. I MUCH prefer the superior 3D passive performance of my LG 55" OLED. The Z9D has a very nice and bright 2d image though. If you are getting great performance from your Z9D, consider yourself lucky.
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Lukas741 - I have the Sony Z9D as well and I am VERY disappointed in it's 3D performance. Nonstop image ghosting and crosstalk, both with Sony's active glasses and third party actives. I MUCH prefer the superior 3D passive performance of my LG 55" OLED. The Z9D has a very nice and bright 2d image though. If you are getting great performance from your Z9D, consider yourself lucky.
Only on the 75”inch model you can fix that, if you have the 65” you are s.o.l unfortunately.
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