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Old 12-04-2020, 11:13 PM   #13901
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“The announcement by Warner Bros. Pictures Group that it will make its major titles for 2021 available simultaneously for a month in both cinemas and on its HBO Max streaming platform is rightly seen as a watershed moment for theatrical exhibition. In the next few days we will see many obituaries written about the ‘death of cinema’. Don’t believe a word of it.”

I would be surprised if any balanced, experienced analyst predicts this move will outright kill off Cinema (the theatrical going experience). The question is to what degree this, so far, one-year experiment will irrevocably displace movie theater-going to a secondary or tertiary minor pastime as compared to the evolution of watching dem movies in the comfort of one’s home, especially if one has a fairly large flat panel at home.
I'm not sure it even has to be a "large flat panel" to displace the cinema experience, as the vast majority of people do not give a shit about quality. As long as they can watch WW84 on their phone on the commute to work then they're good, IMO people have historically gone to the cinema for the social aspect more than the quality of it as such. The rise of the PLF aspect of cinema-going would perhaps contradict that argument, but IMAX, Dobly Cinema et al still only make up a small portion of western cinema revenues.

So yeah, I don't think this specific move will kill cinema in itself, but the longer this situation goes on the more that people will just get out of the habit of visiting das kino, as well as paying for it. So when/if it does open up on the scale we had previously it'll be verr interesting to see what the public's reaction will be when they're used to having new releases pumped straight thru to their phones, and at no extra cost on top of their existing subscriptions to whatever studio's streaming service. It's remarkable how quickly humans adapt to new situations, it's one of our great traits as a species, but it means that cinema-going might be left behind.

People might say "well, I think live music and theatre will make a comeback" and I don't disagree, there's that intangible thing about seeing a live show which will always draw people back in, but a movie is a movie is a movie, to the average person its fundamentals won't change whether they're seeing it on an 80-foot screen in a cathedral-like picture house or on an 8-inch screen whilst visiting the porcelain palace.

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Dolby Vision: Production, Distribution and Display by Walt Husak

Challenges in High-Quality HDR Content Distribution by Zhou Wang

Improvements in x265 Encoder by Kavitha Sampath
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Old 12-05-2020, 08:30 PM   #13903
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So yeah, I don't think this specific move will kill cinema in itself, but the longer this situation goes on the more that people will just get out of the habit of visiting das kino, as well as paying for it. So when/if it does open up on the scale we had previously it'll be verr interesting to see what the public's reaction will be when they're used to having new releases pumped straight thru to their phones, and at no extra cost on top of their existing subscriptions to whatever studio's streaming service. It's remarkable how quickly humans adapt to new situations, it's one of our great traits as a species, but it means that cinema-going might be left behind.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ia46...title#t=16m33s
Walt has been a long-time invaluable contributor to making HDR come to fruition, e.g. - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...t#post14962558
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Old 12-06-2020, 07:59 AM   #13905
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HDR10+ Contents Generation Tools and Workflow

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^ Perhaps a bit deep in the weeds for some, so in summary for those not so technically inclined to watch the whole video, the bottom line is from banding impairment detection by SSIMWAVE - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...e#post17868938

onto other quality assessment uses of their metric designed to preserve the original creative intent of HDR content – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GD0...title#t=11m19s

P.S.
A while back, Eurofins ( https://www.eurofins-digitaltesting.com/content/ ) independently determined SSIMPLUS to be superior to VMAF (https://github.com/Netflix/vmaf ), thusly deciding to use it in their quality of analysis tools.

And for the curious, but afraid to ask, at the 3:00 timestamp with the slide titled ‘THE SIMMPLUS METRIC’, the LGN inscribed on the drawing to the right at which the spaghetti-like structure terminates, stands for lateral geniculate nucleus.

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Anyone let them know Fox Home Entertainment no longer exists?

That Lionsgate is apparently done with experimenting with HDR10+?

That Warner is going DV on HBO-Max?
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Old 12-07-2020, 01:59 AM   #13908
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Speaking of quality assurance, this weekend, Mulan became free to watch with a Disney+ regular subscription (no extra fee required, as per the past - https://company3.com/at-last-disneys...mulan-is-here/).

A sidebar tidbit regarding Moxion, which was helpful for Mulan - https://www.moxion.io/. The neat thing about Moxion, for this feature film and any future movie for that matter, is that studio executives and producers can use it (after the color scientist from the post shop has dialed it in, thru the Moxion settings, to match the reference monitor for the project so it’s forced across all devices accessing the project) to accurately monitor what’s happening during production on their iPad Pros. And even during post for Directors and DPs who can’t make it into all the coloring sessions due to the COVID-19 pandemic.
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"If you were thinking about moving into HDR, the good news is that it was never more comfortable to do so than now. Today, it is possible to start by 'hacking' OLED TVs and turning them into client viewing devices. Besides, it is very likely that your clients already own a Dolby Vision approved HDR device in the form of iPhone 12. However, the best news is that we are finally getting to the zone where affordable professional monitoring is becoming a reality and that modern applications are becoming smart about HDR. There are greater choices, and with the latest know-how, the whole transition becomes easy.

The way things are moving, we know that there will only be more and more HDR screens that will demand more HDR content, and if you are a seasoned pro working from home, then the time is right to start taking HDR more seriously. By that, we mean doing it instead of just talking about it.

This is why we dedicate the month of December to beautiful HDR images through a series of live streams and several quick courses on the subject of HDR post, Dolby Vision, and Calibration."

So, starting tomorrow, Tuesday, December 8, 2020, 11am PST is this free webinar -
Calibrating LG CX for professional environment

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Anyone let them know Fox Home Entertainment no longer exists?

That Lionsgate is apparently done with experimenting with HDR10+?

That Warner is going DV on HBO-Max?
SDC19 Samsung’s Developer Event took place in October 2019 and the video was on-line in early november 2019.

Since March 2019 when Disney became the owner of 21st Century Fox, of course, things have changed since. It takes some time to take all this into account.

April 2020
20th Century (Fox) seemingly abandoning HDR10+ in favor of Dolby Vision
https://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.ph...&id=1587366105

december 2020
https://twitter.com/PattyJenks/statu...61228695875584

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THE 4K ULTRA HD RELEASE LIST (US/UK/DE)

https://thedigitalbits.com/columns/t...4k-uhd-list-01

After the most interesting in this video, it is not the partnerships since we know their background but the description of the workflow of HDR10 +.

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Old 12-08-2020, 02:39 AM   #13911
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busy viewing Thursday - https://thewaltdisneycompany.com/dis...stor-day-2020/
and same day being - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owve...=youtu.be#t=1s
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The home of the Sopranos is under siege: Inside the battle for the soul of HBO
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YouTube just launched HDR support for livestreams:

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I haven't watched it but I hope it's more involved than what Dado Valentic said in that promo event that Panasonic did for their new OLEDs a couple years back, that he just put it onto a certain picture present and it perfickly matched his calibrated mastering monitor
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Tough day at the store Geoff ?, you’re better than that. Here I’m channeling your better angel side -
I haven't watched it but I hope it's more involved than what Dado Valentic said in that promo event that Panasonic did for their new OLEDs a couple years back,
as we can find previous technical errors and assertions made by everyone.
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Speaking of quality assurance, this weekend, Mulan became free to watch with a Disney+ regular subscription (no extra fee required, as per the past - https://company3.com/at-last-disneys...mulan-is-here/).

A sidebar tidbit regarding Moxion, which was helpful for Mulan - https://www.moxion.io/. The neat thing about Moxion, for this feature film and any future movie for that matter, is that studio executives and producers can use it (after the color scientist from the post shop has dialed it in, thru the Moxion settings, to match the reference monitor for the project so it’s forced across all devices accessing the project) to accurately monitor what’s happening during production on their iPad Pros. And even during post for Directors and DPs who can’t make it into all the coloring sessions due to the COVID-19 pandemic.
also, a spiffy, convenient Moxion update feature for SDR which overrides the iPad Pro’s brightness settings and switches off all the other display settings –

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Old 12-09-2020, 01:22 PM   #13918
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YouTube Debuts HDR for Live Streams

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Tough day at the store Geoff ?, you’re better than that. Here I’m channeling your better angel side -
I haven't watched it but I hope it's more involved than what Dado Valentic said in that promo event that Panasonic did for their new OLEDs a couple years back,
as we can find previous technical errors and assertions made by everyone.
Better than what? I'm not allowed to critique the practices of a video professional because I work in a supermarket? I still find it extraordinary that a professional colourist wouldn't calibrate a set before using it, even if it was just as a client monitor and not the actual mastering monitor. They're hired for their 'eye', yes, and some people will say that because of increased metamerism with OLED's spectral peaks that they need to be perceptually matched to a reference display (Judd Vos and whatnot), but other professionals like Steve Yedlin say otherwise. Personally I'd like to confirm what any set is doing via a metered calibration even if it was reputed to be perfick out of the box but hey, I know there's not much call for that when I'm putting baked beans onto a shelf
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Better than what?
Laughing your arse off at other peoples’ mistakes. like so -

Look, I hold you in high regard as an educator as compared to the incorrigibles, no matter what the topic, who regularly speak beyond their expertise essentially spewing nonsense or cherry-picking anomalies to fit a personal agenda with the excuse that they are allowed to offer an opinion.
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