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Old 09-05-2022, 10:12 AM   #41
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amazon.co.uk just shipped and I was pleasantly surprised it being only 17.21 total now - didn't notice that the price temporarily dropped to 16.67 (with the German VAT that is). Nice.

Guess I should've waited for more thoughts on the compression, but I couldn't resist and hate missing out on slips.
Looking forward to hearing your thoughts on this one
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amazon.co.uk just shipped and I was pleasantly surprised it being only 17.21 total now - didn't notice that the price temporarily dropped to 16.67 (with the German VAT that is). Nice.

Guess I should've waited for more thoughts on the compression, but I couldn't resist and hate missing out on slips.
As I'm also from Germany and thinking of ordering it today (with a discount coupon which expires tonight), do you know by any chance if the German dub is included on the UHD? Is the disc the same like the German one? And I also hope, the UK edition comes with the additional booklet not mentioned anywhere, but which is included in the German Scanavo case. So, with German dub, booklet, poster and slipcover the UK version would be the ultimate one for me also...
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As I'm also from Germany and thinking of ordering it today (with a discount coupon which expires tonight), do you know by any chance if the German dub is included on the UHD? Is the disc the same like the German one? And I also hope, the UK edition comes with the additional booklet not mentioned anywhere, but which is included in the German Scanavo case. So, with German dub, booklet, poster and slipcover the UK version would be the ultimate one for me also...
I don't have mine yet - it's supposed to arrive on Friday. And I'm afraid everything is possible re. all of your questions. The UK might come with the German dub, but with StudioCanal it might just as well not. Same with the booklet. And the odds are 50:50 really with both IMO.

I went for the UK because I prefer the proper (English) titles on the cover and like slip covers (and don't watch dubs obviously).

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I don't have mine yet - it's supposed to arrive on Friday. And I'm afraid everything is possible re. all of your questions. The UK might come with the German dub, but with StudioCanal it might just as well not. Same with the booklet. And the odds are 50:50 really with both IMO.

I went for the UK because I prefer the proper (English) titles on the cover and like slip covers (and don't watch dubs obviously).
Thanks for your reply. So, I will just wait a few more days till I order it (together with other items) and see if any review comes up. Otherwise, should you receive it by the weekend, could you please check if German dub and booklet are included? Would help me a lot for my decision. Thank you very much in advance!
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Thanks for your reply. So, I will just wait a few more days till I order it (together with other items) and see if any review comes up. Otherwise, should you receive it by the weekend, could you please check if German dub and booklet are included? Would help me a lot for my decision. Thank you very much in advance!
Had it in the mail today already... No booklet (only the poster and a StudioCanal flyer), but German audio (and subs) and a slip cover.
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'Please note that this film reflects historical attitudes which audiences may find outdated or offensive.' on the back cover is pure gold.
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'Please note that this film reflects historical attitudes which audiences may find outdated or offensive.' on the back cover is pure gold.
LoL, maybe I should have gone Criterion. Hopefully the encode is better to justify the purchase.
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Old 09-10-2022, 11:39 PM   #48
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I have a bad feeling about this...

Code:
Disc Label:     DAS_PIANO
Disc Size:      87,604,447,851 bytes
Protection:     AACS2
Extras:         Ultra HD, 50Hz Content
BDInfo:         0.7.5.6

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name:                   00000.MPLS
Length:                 2:01:09.387 (h:m:s.ms)
Size:                   73,222,434,624 bytes
Total Bitrate:          80.58 Mbps

VIDEO:

Codec                   Bitrate             Description     
-----                   -------             -----------     
MPEG-H HEVC Video       54304 kbps          2160p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / Main 10 @ Level 5.1 @ High / 10 bits / HDR10 / BT.2020
* MPEG-H HEVC Video     12542 kbps          1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / Main 10 @ Level 5.1 @ High / 10 bits / Dolby Vision / BT.2020

AUDIO:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
LPCM Audio                      German          2304 kbps       2.0 / 48 kHz /  2304 kbps / 24-bit 
DTS-HD Master Audio             English         2890 kbps       5.1 / 48 kHz /  2890 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz /  1509 kbps / 24-bit)
LPCM Audio                      German          2304 kbps       2.0 / 48 kHz /  2304 kbps / 24-bit 
* LPCM Audio                    English         2304 kbps       2.0 / 48 kHz /  2304 kbps / 24-bit 

SUBTITLES:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
Presentation Graphics           German          16.862 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           German          19.128 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           English         16.002 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           German           1.201 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           English          0.948 kbps                     
  * Presentation Graphics         German          42.918 kbps
Can't do a BDInfo on the UK disc (yet), but I do love how Studio Canal presented an option I hadn't considered for the disc - almost the same as the German UHD disc but not identical, despite them both having English and German audio and subtitles! (Should have been obvious from the Disc Label, to be fair.)

Differences between the UK UHD and the BDInfo above:
1) There's no second German audio track (Audio Description, I assume) on the UK disc.
2) There's no German HoH subtitles - or German commentary subtitles - on the UK disc.
3) The UK disc is slightly larger (more like 88-89GB) and has no 50Hz content as far as I can tell.
4) The main stream is slightly smaller on the UK disc (~71GB compared to the German's 73GB) but this is presumably due to the dropped audio/subtitle tracks.

The UK disc definitely has a DV layer, so I'm guessing that it's the same as the German disc in that regard. Runtime is also the same, identical to the Criterion one (including the Criterion logo) after the 20-second Studio Canal logo. Included BD is 25th Anniversary one and has 576i content, but everything on the UHD is in 1080p/24 containers. Thankfully UK UHD has all the extras. Despite making no reference to the commentary on the back cover. Also UK slipcover highly desirable - someone decided to print the 4K UltraHD logo strip at the top of the case's inlay, despite the case itself having that logo at the top of the case (as you'd expect). So there's a black plastic 4K UltraHD logo at the top of the case, with an identical printed equivalent beneath it, and then the silver "4K UltraHD + Blu-ray" strip beneath that, wasting far more cover than necessary.

Full break down of UK specs: http://dvdcompare.net/comparisons/film.php?fid=60084
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Amazon is getting weird with international shipping. I order with the more expensive shipping option, and whereas before it was sent via DHL 100% of the time (versus going through USPS for regular shipping), the past couple months they seem to be sending some orders regular USPS even when I pay for expedited. Or if they split an order, part of the order goes out expedited and the other half doesn't.
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I briefly compared the Criterion and the SC now and I can only confirm what the caps/cirik suggested already. In HDR10 the SC is a tad crisper (not in your face, but one could reliably tell which is which) and really is so throughout (and I could confirm whererever I checked properly). The compression of the SC looks perfectly fine to me as well.

I didn't watch the whole thing yet, but I will be watching the SC instead now and if there aren't any HDR10 ****ups hidden somewhere, I'd get the SC over the Criterion. Whether one wants to upgrade or not one should be able to decide based on the previous caps already. Here's just 3 more that show the same (and with the same settings):

https://slow.pics/c/kOar3L6H
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Looks like the UK release just excised the German audio description and HoH subtitles for the film portion of the disc. Don't know how the German release encoded its extras, but this disc certainly has no 50Hz content:

Code:
                                                                  Total     Video                                               
Title         Codec     Length    Movie Size      Disc Size       Bitrate   Bitrate   Main Audio Track                          Secondary Audio Track
-----         ------    -------   --------------  --------------  -------   -------   ------------------                        ---------------------
00000.MPLS    HEVC      2:01:09   70,927,638,336  88,693,119,707  78.06     54.30     DTS-HD Master 5.1 2890Kbps (48kHz/24-bit) LPCM 2.0 2304Kbps (48kHz/24-bit)
Code:
DISC INFO:

Disc Label:     THE_PIANO
Disc Size:      88,693,119,707 bytes
Protection:     AACS2
Extras:         Ultra HD
BDInfo:         0.7.5.8-X

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name:                   00000.MPLS
Length:                 2:01:09.387 (h:m:s.ms)
Size:                   70,927,638,336 bytes
Total Bitrate:          78.06 Mbps

(*) Indicates included stream hidden by this playlist.

VIDEO:

Codec                   Bitrate             Description     
-----                   -------             -----------     
MPEG-H HEVC Video       54304 kbps          2160p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / Main 10 @ Level 5.1 @ High / 4:2:0 / 10 bits / HDR10 / BT.2020
* MPEG-H HEVC Video     12542 kbps (18.76%) 1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / Main 10 @ Level 5.1 @ High / 4:2:0 / 10 bits / Dolby Vision / BT.2020

AUDIO:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
DTS-HD Master Audio             English         2890 kbps       5.1 / 48 kHz / 2890 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 24-bit)
LPCM Audio                      German          2304 kbps       2.0 / 48 kHz / 2304 kbps / 24-bit
* LPCM Audio                    English         2304 kbps       2.0 / 48 kHz / 2304 kbps / 24-bit

SUBTITLES:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
Presentation Graphics           English         16.002 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           German          16.862 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           English         0.948 kbps                      
Presentation Graphics           German          1.201 kbps
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