The Hobbit Trilogy 3D Blu-ray (2012-2014) [Region Free]

[eriaur]

I see, thanks.

[Ghostdivision]

I went to see the hobitt, in 3d it was infact the first 3d film I have seen since it started back up again after avatar.

I am 28 but suffered partial loss of vision in my one eye after over use of prescription eye drop. I am not blind in the eye but partial vision is lost in the one eye and vision obstructed.

I am basically wondering if i can see 3d or not. Not really sure where else to ask, the people i went with seemed to think i seen what they did but I was not sure.

I found the 3d in the hobbitt, subtle, not overbearing or distracting, at first i thought it was due to my vision but the 3 others i was with said it was subtle to, nothing really in your face.

What i got out of this movie and 3d was a sense of depth in many of the scenes, nothing was popping off the screen but the scenes itself had depth to them rather then just a flat surface.

Is this what others on here seen, and what I should have been seeing?

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by eriaur

I see, thanks.

Big impediment to seeing seamless VFR is the current need for flashing of the left-right images in sequential 3D theatrical projectors.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Ghostdivision

I went to see the hobitt, in 3d it was infact the first 3d film I have seen since it started back up again after avatar.

I am 28 but suffered partial loss of vision in my one eye after over use of prescription eye drop. I am not blind in the eye but partial vision is lost in the one eye and vision obstructed.

I am basically wondering if i can see 3d or not. Not really sure where else to ask, the people i went with seemed to think i seen what they did but I was not sure....

Best to check around and determine exactly how ‘stereo blind” you actually are and then you may be better able to predict your expectations with all future 3D movies. You might want to call the ophthalmology dept. of a teaching hospital in your area or perhaps an Optometry college such as this…
http://www.scco.edu/

And specifically ask if they offer this test…
http://precision-vision.com/index.cf...tereo-test.cfm

Or, if not offered, ask if they know where you could go to have it done. In lieu of the above, for a quick answer I would say that the stereoscopy of The Hobbit doesn’t *push the envelope* in terms of parallax but, it is certainly not *flat* either. The best stereoscopy are the vista shots….which are extremely good. Did they do anything for you?

On a curious note, what (exact name) eye drops did you overuse and why did you do so, i.e. followed directions according to doctor’s orders or you made a mistake?

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

.....On a curious note, what (exact name) eye drops did you overuse and why did you do so, i.e. followed directions according to doctor’s orders or you made a mistake?

Ghostdivision, I can understand your reluctance to answer if you are involved in pending litigation.

[Zivouhr]

Originally Posted by Ghostdivision

I am 28 but suffered partial loss of vision in my one eye after over use of prescription eye drop.

I found the 3d in the hobbitt, subtle, not overbearing or distracting, at first i thought it was due to my vision but the 3 others i was with said it was subtle to, nothing really in your face.

What i got out of this movie and 3d was a sense of depth in many of the scenes, nothing was popping off the screen but the scenes itself had depth to them rather then just a flat surface.

Is this what others on here seen, and what I should have been seeing?

Yes, depth with the layers is what this film does best with the 3D. Not many pop outs, so you saw what most others I've spoken to have seen.

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

HFR will have a hard roe to hoe because(especially, before Cinemacon) I think the expectations from the filmmakers were that with The Hobbit, they thought they would hit a home run out of the park, with the HFR version, that is.

People could argue that given the mixed reviews maybe they got a single or double (at most) with the HFR version. So, HFR pioneers dug themselves a hole from the get-go if they were looking towards HFR eventually supplanting 24fps. Unless they can improve upcoming offerings, HFR may very well be destined to become an ‘optional’ format, at best. Reviews indicate that the theatrical offerings were not immensely popular and HFR production is significantly more expensive than traditional 24fps.

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Although, to be fair, I think it is difficult to judge something *different* based upon one offering. P.J. and crew should really emphasize the fact that this was a learning experience for them. This format is so new, it is actually difficult to even get proper calibration during color correction. I hope that there will be further refinements in the appearance of future offerings of HFR by P.J. and Jim C. because, aesthetics aside, HFR allows for brighter 3D and less flicker and motion artifacts (blur, strobing, judder) , which is an undeniable benefit to the 3D format. I would have loved to have seen this shot and exhibited in HFR…

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1792647/

Interesting points, while also keeping in mind, as with most new technology, there is always an initial resistance, "What we have now is good enough, why do we need this more expensive stuff for? I don't like it." As was the case with DVD, Blu Ray, new consoles being announced too early, new HDTVs, 3DTVs, CD's vs Cassettes, etc.

A major reason most filmmakers might resist HFR this early on? It's out of their budget and they're hoping they don't get left behind with "old 24 fps technology".


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High Frame Rate seems to capture motion more accurately as it is seen with human every day sight, and though it may be expensive, costs will go down over time and development. Or can some argue 24 fps seems closer to human sight of motion? What about 15 fps or 8 fps?

Both 24 fps and 48 fps formats are valid, as they both present motion in a way most people can watch without discomfort, when opinions and biases are detached.

I enjoy both the 24 fps Lord of the Rings, and I'm sure I'll enjoy 24 fps with Hobbit 3D blu ray also, even though I would have preferred the 48 fps 3D at home also as in theaters.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Zivouhr

Interesting points...

I rather thought that the part of my post which you spoiler-ized was actually the most interesting. Anyway.

[Penton-Man]

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...ne#post6842199

^ At the Memorial for Ray, the stereographer for Life of Pi, (Brian Gardner) mentioned that the comic book sequence in Life of Pi was his way to pay homage to Ray Zone (the King of 3D Comics). Unfortunately, Ray passed a week before the opening of Life of Pi.

Which reminds me, after viewing the West Coast premiere of this motion picture a few months back, I related to folks here that I was rather unimpressed with the 3D of Life of Pi….with the insinuation that it should not be recognized for that effort, but rather, for the pure cinematography, VFX, Directing, etc.

Well…

I screened ‘Pi’ for a second time just at my humble local Multiplex over the past Christmas Holidays, which I took my visiting nieces and nephews to as sort of a Holiday treat, and I must say that on second viewing with their accompaniment, I was far less critical and I now believe that the 3D worked superbly with story in that it was STORY DRIVEN, not to mention the fact that there was great contrast between the tranquil moments and the fantasy moments and it was the first ever feature film to use dynamic floating windows for artistic cinematic storytelling.

In retrospect, I think I approached the first screening in far too much of a 3D analytical fashion. I hope Life of Pi does well on Oscar night in all its nominated categories adding to the VES awards it’s racked up… http://www.digitalartsonline.co.uk/n...s-awards-2013/

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...ne#post6842199

^ At the Memorial for Ray, the stereographer for Life of Pi, (Brian Gardner) mentioned that the comic book sequence in Life of Pi was his way to pay homage to Ray Zone (the King of 3D Comics). Unfortunately, Ray passed a week before the opening of Life of Pi...

Might I just humbly add that unfortunately due to Ray’s sudden passing, Brian G. (of Life of Pi) never had the opportunity to even inform Ray of his tribute to him.

[BleedOrange11]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

I screened ‘Pi’ for a second time just at my humble local Multiplex over the past Christmas Holidays, which I took my visiting nieces and nephews to as sort of a Holiday treat, and I must say that on second viewing with their accompaniment, I was far less critical and I now believe that the 3D worked superbly with story in that it was STORY DRIVEN, not to mention the fact that there was great contrast between the tranquil moments and the fantasy moments and it was the first ever feature film to use dynamic floating windows for artistic cinematic storytelling.

If I'm not mistaken, Brian Gardner invented the floating window technique for Meet the Robinsons. No surprise that he's the one pioneering its creative use.



EDIT - I might have posted this link once before, but it's an interesting read about Brian Gardner and dynamic floating windows. A snippet:

The discovery of Dynamic Floating Windows suddenly opened this whole range of possibilities for 3D storytelling. It gave us the ability to get rid of all the window violations, and gave us a tool for dynamically controlling how we use depth in a scene.

The first time I used dynamic floating windows for storytelling was on "Meet The Robinsons," and it was a revolution that quickly spread. Almost every 3D commercial animated film since then has used them - "Beowulf," "Bolt," "Monsters vs. Aliens," Pixar's "Up," and even "Fly Me to The Moon" from nWave Pictures, a relatively small production company.

"Meet The Robinsons" wasn't just the first time that I got to use Dynamic Floating Windows in a movie. It was also the first time that I really started thinking of them as not just a fix for a technical 3D problem, but as a way to use the 3D window as an artistic tool and a cinematic element.

I used them with stop-motion in "Coraline," and I intend to use them for a live-action movie that I'm working on, still in the planning stages. This may very well be the first time that Dynamic Floating Windows will be used for live action.

I certainly hope so! Though, somebody may get there first, but it would be unfortunate if someone beat me to using my own tool for live action 3D!

http://magazine.creativecow.net/arti...D-storytelling

[Penton-Man]

Orange, regarding animation motion pictures, as an aside, I notice that you recently posted on the ‘Best and Worst’ 3D movie thread that your #1 favorite 3D movie is Madagascar 3.

I can relate to you that prior to Madagascar 3, for the Blu-ray masters, Dreamworks would re-converge the theatrical source (which included eliminating floating windows in that process) mainly to alleviate any ghosting potential/problems with exhibition on 3D home (consumer) TVs. Then, beginning with Madagascar 3, and for the flicks which followed, no re-convergence was deemed necessary (because it was believed that TVs had improved for 3D viewing), so the convergence for HD masters became essentially the same as the theatrical version and thusly also now included any floating windows.

Other studios have different philosophy on this.

[Mao]

Jsut wondering why this isn't available for pre-order at Amazon yet?

[BleedOrange11]

Hmm, you know, I knew something was a little different about Madagascar 3, compared to Megamind, Monsters vs Aliens, and How to Train Your Dragon on BD3D but never put my finger on that distinction. The original theatrical settings must be why M3 looks a cut above the rest. Thanks for pointing that out.

I had read, maybe about a year ago, that DreamWorks altered their convergence and removed floating windows for BD3D. I think the floating windows were considered too distracting in case consumers purchased a silver-colored 3DTV. Then the recessed convergence must have been to make up for the lack of floating windows. Anyway, I'm glad that they changed their philosophy. The specially timed "pop-outs" at appropriate moments really brings the 3D to life.

Disney animations seem to use floating windows quite liberally too. Tangled is full of them.

[Jude72]

Pre-order is now up on Amazon.com



Order it with the LotR Lego game on Xbox, PS3 or Wii an save $15. (Thanks to wjasoncul for the heads up for that deal).

[Irrob]

Originally Posted by Jude72

Pre-order is now up on Amazon.com

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Order it with the LotR Lego game on Xbox, PS3 or Wii an save $15. (Thanks to wjasoncul for the heads up for that deal).

As much as it pains me to say, I'm going 3D > 2D digibook. It's mind boggling they would gimp all the other swanky versions by leaving out the 3D.

And. Would it kill someone to change the name of this thread so it's along the lines of where we're at with this release?

[sookymonster]

Loved the info on the floating windows, I thought it was Bob Whitehill who invented the floating windows. I was wrong !

[jhanig]

Walmart just started doing the pre-order digibook cards (which looks awesome, especially Gandalf). Wondering if they have that in 3d, blu-ray, and DVD?? Because I look at the pre-order picture and it shows two Blu-ray Discs and a DVD disc -- half the movie on disc one and other half on disc two, or special features. Pre-order is $26.96.

[pdslost]

All the hobbit and lord of rings EXTENDED editions all in one day after the last one is released?

I plan to and will need to get an early start to do it in one day I'm sure!

[Santa Barbara]

That would make one exhaustingly long day. Question, which should one watch first? The lead up with The Hobbit films or handle it by release?

[infiniteCR]

Just watching 1 all at once is a HUGE accomplishment!