(BOOK SPOILERS) Game of Thrones Series Discussion for Book Readers

[kernel_thai]

Originally Posted by sycro

But she didn't have to be nice to the Tyrells then, since Joffrey had already chosen his bride. But now she has control of Tommen and could fight off the Tyrells. Tywin needed her to know why she shouldn't.

U missed my point...I was just talking about the two scenes in the last episode. If u put the Tywin scene before the coronation scene it gives more reason behind Cersei trying to play nice with Margery. With the war pretty much over and not knowing about the Lannister financial troubles, Cerseo only motivation for marrying Tommen to Margery is Mace Tyrell's vote at Tyrion's trial.

[jayembee]

Originally Posted by kernel_thai

U missed my point...I was just talking about the two scenes in the last episode. If u put the Tywin scene before the coronation scene it gives more reason behind Cersei trying to play nice with Margery. With the war pretty much over and not knowing about the Lannister financial troubles, Cerseo only motivation for marrying Tommen to Margery is Mace Tyrell's vote at Tyrion's trial.

Which fits in well with what was going on in the episode: Cersei was trying to manipulate the three judges to ensure that Tyrion is judged guilty, but we actually saw her doing so only with Tywin and Oberyn.

[frogmort]

Originally Posted by sycro

Aren't we a hateful one?

I may have been a bit harsh last night. Had a few too many adult beverages.

Originally Posted by sycro

You do realize that Game of Thrones is one of about 20 things he's working on, right?

That's the main problem.

[Javert]

24: Live Another Day Spoiler (GoT-related)

[Show spoiler]Nooo, Lady Stoneheart, Jack isn't with the Freys!

[kernel_thai]

Originally Posted by jayembee

Which fits in well with what was going on in the episode: Cersei was trying to manipulate the three judges to ensure that Tyrion is judged guilty, but we actually saw her doing so only with Tywin and Oberyn.

Certainly, and the vote is enough at least in Cersei's twisted mind. But then in the very next scene Tywin tells Cersei how much they need the marriage and the Tyrells because the mines have dried up. This also provides motivation for the 180, with teeth gritted, in Cersei behavior. Why not use it as well. All it does is play to Cerseis one mindedness on killing Tyrion and makes her new attitude much less convincing.

[Donat96]

Stannis and Mycroft Holmes together in today's episode. Should be interesting.

[jayembee]

Originally Posted by Donat96

Stannis and Mycroft Holmes together in today's episode. Should be interesting.

Ha! My first thought in reading that was "I didn't know that Rhys Ifans (who plays Mycroft in Elementary) was guest-starring!" Then I remembered, "Oh, yeah, Mark Gatiss."

[The Lizard King]

Originally Posted by Donat96

Stannis and Mycroft Holmes together in today's episode. Should be interesting.

I'm sure that we'll see Shae, too.

TLK

[Blu-Benny]

so I'm almost done w/A Storm of Swords......correct me if I'm wrong.

where they are w/Daenerys' story in the show vs. the book.....she had kicked Jorah to the curb by now hadn't she??

and shouldn't the wildlings have attacked from the south side of the wall by now or I that coming up??

I'm assuming Episode 9 will contain the majority of the battle when Mance attacks the wall.

[Hucksta G]

Originally Posted by Blu-Benny

so I'm almost done w/A Storm of Swords......correct me if I'm wrong.

where they are w/Daenerys' story in the show vs. the book.....she had kicked Jorah to the curb by now hadn't she??

and shouldn't the wildlings have attacked from the south side of the wall by now or I that coming up??

I'm assuming Episode 9 will contain the majority of the battle when Mance attacks the wall.

I think they have played around with the timeline of the book, quite a bit.

[Blu-Benny]

Originally Posted by Hucksta G

I think they have played around with the timeline of the book, quite a bit.

I can accept the timeline being played with so long as events aren't changed too much.

I mean, the whole Jorah thing is essential later on....so she has to get rid of him at some point right??

[Hucksta G]

Originally Posted by Blu-Benny

I can accept the timeline being played with so long as events aren't changed too much.

I mean, the whole Jorah thing is essential later on....so she has to get rid of him at some point right??

they've stuck closely to major events, so I wouldn't worry about it, it should be coming soon

[Javert]

Dany's storyline is already in the first chapters of Dance with Dragons, which is insane.

[Kevinicus]

Originally Posted by Javert

Dany's storyline is already in the first chapters of Dance with Dragons, which is insane.

Why is it insane? They occur right after A Storm of Swords.

[Gaius Marius]

Originally Posted by Blu-Benny

so I'm almost done w/A Storm of Swords......correct me if I'm wrong.

where they are w/Daenerys' story in the show vs. the book.....she had kicked Jorah to the curb by now hadn't she??

and shouldn't the wildlings have attacked from the south side of the wall by now or I that coming up??

I'm assuming Episode 9 will contain the majority of the battle when Mance attacks the wall.

Yeah, Jorah was dismissed before Mereen, so I am wondering when that is going to play out....

Also, the Wildlings south of the Wall should have also attacked. I am guessing they will attack right before or at the same time as Mance.

Overall, I am liking the pacing. Seeing some AFFC and ADWD stuff is interesting. Plus, there are a number of non-book events going on (Craster's Keep and Yara/Asha going after Theon this early). Part of me always prefers adaptations to stick to the books, but I am enjoying these changes so far. Plus, there was the future book spoiler a few episodes back

[Aragorn the Elfstone]

Incorporating elements from AFFC and ADWD (which many find slow) into the more high octane narrative of the latter half of ASOS is really smart.

Makes me very interested to see how next season will unfold.

On the subject of Jorah, I got the feeling that's what Tywin's letter was about tonight. I think he's sending a message to Dany (or at least someone in her company) informing her of Jorah's spying.

[Zvi]

Originally Posted by Aragorn the Elfstone

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On the subject of Jorah, I got the feeling that's what Tywin's letter was about tonight. I think he's sending a message to Dany (or at least someone in her company) informing her of Jorah's spying.

I like that idea Makes the whole thing more interesting than in the books too.

[SleeperAgent]

I gotta say, I didn't expect much from this episode knowing it was just trial....but damn if Dinklage can't steal a show. He was superb in that courtroom.

[Edword]

Originally Posted by Aragorn the Elfstone

Incorporating elements from AFFC and ADWD (which many find slow) into the more high octane narrative of the latter half of ASOS is really smart.

Makes me very interested to see how next season will unfold.

On the subject of Jorah, I got the feeling that's what Tywin's letter was about tonight. I think he's sending a message to Dany (or at least someone in her company) informing her of Jorah's spying.

Makes me think that as well seeing how just before they were talking about Jorah and Dany's situation.

[alvarez468]

Originally Posted by Gaius Marius

Yeah, Jorah was dismissed before Mereen, so I am wondering when that is going to play out....

Also, the Wildlings south of the Wall should have also attacked. I am guessing they will attack right before or at the same time as Mance.

Overall, I am liking the pacing. Seeing some AFFC and ADWD stuff is interesting. Plus, there are a number of non-book events going on (Craster's Keep and Yara/Asha going after Theon this early). Part of me always prefers adaptations to stick to the books, but I am enjoying these changes so far. Plus, there was the future book spoiler a few episodes back

I think they sent her early to show that theon isn't really himself anymore. Cause in the book theon is always thinking to himself I'm reek over and over so I think the sister showing up kinda tells you "theon is dead" as she put it cause he didn't Even wanna leave he thought it was a trick maybe.