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Old 08-13-2014, 06:59 PM   #3901
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Like many others, the guy was part of my childhood. Loved him and I will miss him. Very few actors/comedians could spread such warmth in so little time.
The word legend is used far too commonly these days but Robin would qualify for such a title.

RIP Mr Williams
Last night my family and I watched a special on ABC about Robin Williams. There wasn’t a dry eye in the house.
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Old 08-13-2014, 07:09 PM   #3902
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Now that you've so thoroughly answered my question I can go to the theater without any reservation as I know I will get my 4K fix.

The news about Robin Williams was shocking and just sad. I remember him from Mrs. Doubtfire, of course, but I was first introduced to him in Awakenings, which I consider to be his best serious work. It is a touching film that brings me to tears every time I watch it. It is a rare person who can bring you both comedy and serious drama so effectively.

This tragedy shows that we are all human, regardless of how famous or wealthy we may be. We can all suffer from depression and addiction, and Mr. Williams was no different. I feel horrible for his family.
He loved his family and he knew how his loss would affect them. Goes to show how really hurting he was inside and desperate for some relief from his affliction.

Well, also last evening when I got back home and turned on the news I found we lost yet another star performer. The only funny thing reported yesterday was that the folks in your neck of the woods (Minnesota) have a whimsical way of picking their mayors….https://www.myworldnews.com/Channel/...nesota-village

Next year I’m looking forward to an election battle there between a Great Pyrenees and the Newfoundland, as despite their similar grandiose size, they each have distinctly different personalities.
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Old 08-13-2014, 07:36 PM   #3903
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Last night my family and I watched a special on ABC about Robin Williams. There wasn’t a dry eye in the house.
Yeah, it was tough reading the morning papers. Dark few days for the entertainment world and more importantly Robin's family. The loss has stunned folks in the UK as well. Just proves how many people he touched via this wonderful medium of ours.
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It really must be disheartening to film aficionado activists like yourself that more prominent Directors (than just a handful) didn’t step up and campaign the studios to give Kodak what they really desired…’investment directly in Kodak's film-manufacturing plant, as a joint venture’ - http://online.wsj.com/articles/kodak...eve-1406674752

Must have been too busy with other things.
I don't care how many. A few is good enough to me that shows they want film to stick around. And these aren't no name directors anyway. Hence why this whole save film thing even possible.




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He loved his family and he knew how his loss would affect them. Goes to show how really hurting he was inside and desperate for some relief from his affliction.

Well, also last evening when I got back home and turned on the news I found we lost yet another star performer. The only funny thing reported yesterday was that the folks in your neck of the woods (Minnesota) have a whimsical way of picking their mayors….https://www.myworldnews.com/Channel/...nesota-village

Next year I’m looking forward to an election battle there between a Great Pyrenees and the Newfoundland, as despite their similar grandiose size, they each have distinctly different personalities.
I would vote for the Pyrenees. The Newfoundland breed will raise taxes too much. You can tell it from their eyes.
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Old 08-14-2014, 05:49 PM   #3906
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I would vote for the Pyrenees. The Newfoundland breed will raise taxes too much. You can tell it from their eyes.
Whenever you guys get snow accumulation, I hope for some robust early campaign debates between the candidates, including “the silent stare” -

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Old 08-14-2014, 06:04 PM   #3907
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I don't care how many. A few is good enough to me that shows they want film to stick around. And these aren't no name directors anyway. Hence why this whole save film thing even possible.
Well, you should….because if there had been more widespread lobbying support by Directors and Producers maybe you would have gotten a more meaningful deal (e.g. investment directly in Kodak's film-manufacturing plant, film processing labs(s) like FotoKem in Burbank) leading to something of a viable business model or long lasting charitable trust fund rather than a stop-gap measure which is of questionable sustainability. That’s the point, Sap.

Personally, I like film and I especially like the idea of choice, but I think the horse left the barn in Hollywood long ago on this issue and sending it quarterly or semi-annual care packages consisting of a few carrots in the mail won’t prevent it from passing away. Unless something like a school of whales (Katzenberg, Bruckheimer, Joe Roth, Steve Bing, Lucus, Cameron, Bay, Tyler Perry, etc.) come along and add some significant funding to a total celluloid miniature ecosystem, I really find it difficult to believe this measure will endure for more than several years.

I doubt you can find a lab in NYC (the most populous city in the US) right now where you can get 35mm dailies, daily. Even for a mega-buck production film like The Amazing Spider-Man 2 (https://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=14730 ), each morning before the shoot, Mindel had to view/grade the HDCam-SR dailies which will be a turn-off to many contemplating shooting on film in the future in your fine city….and other parts of the country for that matter.
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FYI, they just put 2 Samsung UHD Soccer clips for download

when I try to play with VLC and other players, I only get audio

these are hevc at 50fps

would be nice to hear if anyone has been able to play these on their computer

here are the specs on the file



Format : MPEG-4
Format profile : Base Media
Codec ID : iso4
File size : 1.22 GiB
Duration : 3mn 38s
Overall bit rate mode : Variable
Overall bit rate : 48.2 Mbps
Encoded date : UTC 2014-06-03 18:06:35
Tagged date : UTC 2014-06-03 18:06:35

Video
ID : 1
Format : HEVC
Format/Info : High Efficiency Video Coding
Codec ID : hvc1
Codec ID/Info : High Efficiency Video Coding
Duration : 3mn 38s
Bit rate : 48.1 Mbps
Maximum bit rate : 183 Mbps
Width : 3 840 pixels
Height : 2 160 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 50.000 fps
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.116
Stream size : 1.22 GiB (100%)
Title : Encoded with IFME v3.2.1.0
Encoded date : UTC 2014-06-03 18:06:35
Tagged date : UTC 2014-06-03 18:06:43

Audio
ID : 2
Format : AAC
Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec
Format profile : LC
Codec ID : 67
Duration : 3mn 38s
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 118 Kbps
Maximum bit rate : 143 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : Front: L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 3.08 MiB (0%)
Title : Track 1
Encoded date : UTC 2014-06-03 18:06:43
Tagged date : UTC 2014-06-03 18:06:43

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Old 08-14-2014, 09:29 PM   #3909
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Eventually, resistance will be futile.

The marketing blitz hasn’t even begun yet, as it’s still in its embryonic stage - http://www.dealerscope.com/article/b...ials-contest/1
In the days to come, a significant number of AMC/Regal commercial theatrical screens will be showing pre-movie clips to increase public awareness of 4K -


As I said over a year ago, in time, 4K panels 55” and above will become ubiquitous.

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Old 08-14-2014, 10:56 PM   #3911
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In the days to come, a significant number of AMC/Regal commercial theatrical screens will be showing pre-movie clips to increase public awareness of 4K -

Sony joins with Best Buy in First 4K Cross-Promotion - YouTube

As I said over a year ago, in time, 4K panels 55” and above will become ubiquitous.
Bring it on!
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Old 08-16-2014, 12:15 AM   #3912
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Bring it on!
the Sony 4K campaign is expected to generate 21,999,999 more "impressions", see –
http://www.sony.com/SCA/company-news...tertainm.shtml
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Peter, don’t ever say I don’t think about you. Clean out your DVR buddy, the new season is afoot ….
http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/28784492
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the Sony 4K campaign is expected to generate 21,999,999 more "impressions", see –
http://www.sony.com/SCA/company-news...tertainm.shtml
It's time to show who is boss. All these streaming pretenders are starting to grate!
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Old 08-16-2014, 04:02 PM   #3915
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It's time to show who is boss. All these streaming pretenders are starting to grate!

They need to bust loose a 4K/UHD standard, pronto. It's like waiting for a bus on a side street.
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Old 08-16-2014, 04:54 PM   #3916
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Bring all dem dogs in and turn on the a/c Blu-Dog as its going to be especially HOT in the high desert today.
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It's time to show who is boss.
In due time, 4K will be the catalyst to bring consumers bigger screen sizes….at cheaper prices . This is a good thing especially for those who can’t or won’t move their chairs and sofas a little closer to their new 4K TVs or front projector screens because larger screens occupy more of the retina - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...na#post8921681 and thusly give a greater sense of reality.

Pretty colored graph or chart-makers take note, there is no way to accurately calculate how the human visual system responds to the presentation of fine detail that occupies a large area of the retina. This can only be discovered by carefully controlled scientific subjective testing.
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In due time, 4K will be the catalyst to bring consumers bigger screen sizes….at cheaper prices . This is a good thing especially for those who can’t or won’t move their chairs and sofas a little closer to their new 4K TVs or front projector screens because larger screens occupy more of the retina - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...na#post8921681 and thusly give a greater sense of reality.

Pretty colored graph or chart-makers take note, there is no way to accurately calculate how the human visual system responds to the presentation of fine detail that occupies a large area of the retina. This can only be discovered by carefully controlled scientific subjective testing.
Yep, fed up of been told by some what I can and can't see. I trust my own eyes!
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Old 08-17-2014, 03:32 AM   #3919
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The BBC has released a white paper on their HDR system which is one of the proposed HDR systems for UHDTV. While Dolby is a better with marketing the BBC is much better at explanation and their white paper provide a very detailed explanation of their HDR system, how it was designed, and why they think it would be a practical HDR system. A simple explanation is that the BBC HDR system adds HDR to the upper range of a backward compatible video signal, which is close to a standard Rec. 709 signal, and allows for a peak brightness of 5,000 nits.

The BBC believe that their HDR system is more practical than the Dolby HDR system since it uses 10-bit video (which would be cheaper than 12-bit video), would use relative luminance (which is simpler than absolute luminance which would require a major shift in how video is produced), and would provide a backward compatible video signal (the Dolby HDR system would require conversion to be viewed on a standard HDTV).

In terms of cost the BBC HDR system would be cheaper but after reading through the white paper it does sound like the Dolby HDR system would be better. The Dolby HDR system was built from the ground up to be a HDR system so it extends the dynamic range on both the low range and the upper range. Of course the broadcasters in the ITU might consider cost to be a big factor so it is not clear which HDR system they would prefer.
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The BBC has released a white paper on their HDR system which is one of the proposed HDR systems for UHDTV. .
Yeah Richard , also in a tech magazine last May, Andy Quested (of the BBC) wrote a short article as a prelude to that very proposal for their new OETF for Rec.709. Good to see his colleague from BBC R&D come out with a more detailed follow-up white paper. As an organization, in the past they have given much more attention to the parameter of HFR - http://www.bbc.co.uk/rd/blog/2014/07...lth-games-2014 but I really think that HDR will precede HFR due to the significant infrastructure work still needed ahead to bring natively shot and displayed 100 fps (and higher) to the masses.

Anyway, be it Dolby or BBC adopted solution leading to an eventual consumer display probably in abouts the 800-1000 nit range to show off HDR at home, the take home message to videophiles now living in pitch dark or man caves with very little light, is to expect needing to increase your ambient lighting level accordingly, at least as outlined here with ambient lighting in mastering suites…..https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...nt#post9171143

Will there be *push back* on that next gen viewing practice (boost your room lighting) like there now is in some bloggers’ quarters as to the need for moving one’s chair or sofa closer to the same sized screen for full viewing pleasure of 4K content? I guess time will tell. Other more regular (casual viewing) folks doing all their TV watching in family rooms and such probably won’t have to make much of an alteration, if any, to their current lighting environment as it is now.

As an aside, and something else new, the folks from Philips and Charles P. will soon be coming out with a new paper on yet another aspect/proposal for HDR, which I think will be the new buzz acronym for 2015. They believe that Y’CbCr 4:2:0 drains a lot of sharpness which gets even more profound if you substitute the old EOTF for a new HDR-capable one based on Barten’s contrast sensitivity model. They’re in favor of getting rid of Y"CbCr in favor of Y"u'v' 4:2:0 signal which makes the imagery look more like 4:4:4 (in terms of better detail) and then if you add the higher contrast of HDR on to that, well, the feeling is, with this proposal in practice there will be a pathway to image nirvana.

Exciting times ahead.
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