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#181 |
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Oct 2009
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Hello everyone... I'm new to this site, EXCELLENT site filled with great information
![]() My current set-up is the following: TV: Samsung LCD LN-T5265F Blu-ray: Sony BDP-S550 - To TV via HDMI -Monster 1000 HD DVD player: Denon 2900 Receiver: Onkyo TX-DS787 - Rated at 100 x 6 watts Speakers: 6.1 set-up ALL "Athena Technologies" Front: AS-F2, Center: AS-C1, Surround & back surround AS-R1 - ALL held with Blue Jeans cable 12 gauge. Subwoofers: 2 Velodynes CHT-12 Monster Power Center EP 3650 I have to questions I need your expertise advise, PLEASE. Now that you know more or less where I'm at. I will be replacing my Onkyo TX-DS787 with the Pioneer Elite SC-27 1. Do you guys think I would get an improvement on sound quality? 2. Right now I have the Sony S550 connected directly to the Samsung (and it looks awesome) since the Onkyo does not have HDMI inputs. With the Pioneer AV I would like to go from the Sony S550 through the Pioneer's HDMI and out to the Samsung. What kind of video quality would I get since it will not go directly to the Samsung, would it degrate? Thanks for your advice, Hugans |
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2. No degrading. signal passes through unmolested. Going through the receiver is the preferred method...no lossless audio otherwise. edit. fixed typo Last edited by Irrob; 10-29-2009 at 11:16 AM. |
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Second, I agree with Irrob on both points. The Elite's processing seems to make the audio sound less "processsed" and just cleaner. This seems to add add'l clarity to what my ears hear IMO. Also, yes, the SC-27 does "passthrough", so the signal should not be manipulated in any way. Like Irrob states, you want to use HDMU thru the receiver to get your lossless audio! |
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#184 |
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Oct 2009
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Thank you very much forsberg21 and Irrob for your response. I will enjoy this site very much
![]() By the way, is there really a difference between the SC-25 & 27? Besides the 27 being THX Ultra 2? Do they share the same processing and amps Class "D" ICE power amplification, and AIR Studios Monitor Sound Tuning Certification? Thanks again for your insightful comments. Hugans |
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#186 |
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That's correct fors. I have a downloaded copy of the manual, and it covers both models. I was originally hellbent on getting an SC-27, but due to the price difference I'm going to go with the SC-25 instead. I'm not convinced I'll see any practical "real world" difference between the two performance-wise.
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That makes complete sense to me! |
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+ 1 hdmi input (located on the front panel I think) + 1 hdmi output + 1 zone output (3 zones) + Multi channel PQLS vs 2 channel. So you just have to judge if these features are important to you compared to the price differential. |
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I got my VSX23-TXH last week from 6ave.com and I finally just got around to hooking it up. Man i cant believe how good this thing sounds, and this was before i even ran the MCACC. Cant wait to tweak it more and get my room set up further.
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#193 |
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Oct 2009
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As always, thank you very much for the clarification forsberg...
Fireman, now you got me thinking, if the SC-25 & 27 are plactically simillar in everyway, besides one being THX Ultra 2 vs THX Select 2, I think I wound't mind going for the 25 since there is quite a price difference. Lloyd, congratulations on your new baby... It looks AWESOME ![]() hugans ![]() |
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#194 |
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Oct 2009
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I'm so sorry, I meant Layd...
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However, if you do go with the SC-25, I'm sure you'll spend the money you save on something else HT related. ![]() ![]() If you want to do some reading on your own, the link to download the owner's manual for the SC-25/27 is here. Forsberg21 convinced me of the wisdom of downloading the manual and even printing a copy and now I'm passing that advice on to you. It's so much easier to open the file in PDF format on your computer and be able to search it for specific features/functions rather than searching through a paper manual page by page. Anyway digging through the manual a little bit may help you make your decision between the 25/27. Last edited by Steve; 10-30-2009 at 01:11 AM. |
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#196 | |
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Oct 2009
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Thank you fireman325... I totally understand and agree with you. I've already downloaded the manual for the SC-25/27, I'll start doing some reading of my own ![]() I want to make sure I make the right choice with no regrets later. Thanks again for your help! Hugans |
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I bought an Elite VSX21 yesterday for a good price and am enjoying it so far. I ran the MCACC and it does sound better, a bit tighter and sharper. I initially got an Onkyo 706, the other week, but there was a problem with the HDMI handshaking so I will be taking it back.
I have a question about sound mode/display for blu-rays. When I am playing a bluray through my PS3 it shows on the Elite as PCM when I select standard surround, instead of TrueHD or DTS-HD MASTER I wanted to know if anyone else's receiver does the same thing? On the box it shows DTS-HD MASTER, should I be getting this on the display or should it show PCM? Thanks |
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The only thing you could do is to get the PS3 Slim or a stand-alone if you want to bitstream the audio to the receiver and have it decode the audio for you....sorry. |
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