The Official Dynaudio Speakers Thread

[4x12]

Originally Posted by BigAl87

Patience is a virtue but I'm affraid I'll spend the money elsewhere if I don't buy soon like on Ste-Catherine street.

Yeah I like the hookers on Ste-Catherine street also.... ummm... hold on.... that is what you meant... right?!?!?!?

[jaxwired]

Originally Posted by BigAl87

You cannot possibly compare I tell you if you heard the Rainmaker next to the Sttaf and you have a really hard time telling me which one sounds bigger. Now Iknow the Focus 110 extends at 45 hz and sound really big as Rhett like to report but My price point now is the X12 extending at 50hz +/-3db in typical room and seriously it seems to be hell to get some Dyns out here.

Now again Frequency response does not tell all as the 2600$ Model also extends at 50hz which is precisely why I want to hear the X12 to make sure they sound bigger than their size would let you believe.

You said it brother, published frequency response doesn't mean anything. I've listened to many speakers and owned quite a few as well and I've not found any correlation between published frequency response and satisfying bass.

Also, Dynaudio speakers do bass like no other speaker company I've ever heard. I don't know how they do it, but their speakers pump out a special kind of bass that is so much richer and satisfying than most of the competition. Dyn bass is something special. It's got lots of slam, but it's not boomy or uncontrolled in the least. To the contrary, it's fabulously powerful yet maintains a tightness and precision that has to be heard to be appreciated. It's definately the bass that separates Dyn from the "also rans" IMO. Of course they have fabulous mids and highs as well. That's a given, but if you want great mids and highs, there's a long long line of great stand mount options, but the vast majority have unsatisfying bass that robs music of emotion and leave you far less engaged.

[BigAl87]

Originally Posted by 4x12

Yeah I like the hookers on Ste-Catherine street also.... ummm... hold on.... that is what you meant... right?!?!?!?

Hehe 4X12 or what we call here in french les clubs de danseuses as you know already.

[BigAl87]

Originally Posted by jaxwired

You said it brother, published frequency response doesn't mean anything. I've listened to many speakers and owned quite a few as well and I've not found any correlation between published frequency response and satisfying bass.

Also, Dynaudio speakers do bass like no other speaker company I've ever heard. I don't know how they do it, but their speakers pump out a special kind of bass that is so much richer and satisfying than most of the competition. Dyn bass is something special. It's got lots of slam, but it's not boomy or uncontrolled in the least. To the contrary, it's fabulously powerful yet maintains a tightness and precision that has to be heard to be appreciated. It's definately the bass that separates Dyn from the "also rans" IMO. Of course they have fabulous mids and highs as well. That's a given, but if you want great mids and highs, there's a long long line of great stand mount options, but the vast majority have unsatisfying bass that robs music of emotion and leave you far less engaged.

Jax you'ye said it all right there I heard the X32 to day I can say with a great fact of certainty that they are friggin amazing speakers but my question is have you heard the Totem Sttaf?

I think Callas will agree with me that Totem achieves something special also in their price point and also a pefectly balanced speaker.

[rded]

Originally Posted by BigAl87

Jax you'ye said it all right there I heard the X32 to day I can say with a great fact of certainty that they are friggin amazing speakers but my question is have you heard the Totem Sttaf?

I think Callas will agree with me that Totem achieves something special also in their price point and also a pefectly balanced speaker.

Well.... Where's your review?! Don't just right a one sentence blurb?!

[callas01]

Originally Posted by BigAl87

Jax you'ye said it all right there I heard the X32 to day I can say with a great fact of certainty that they are friggin amazing speakers but my question is have you heard the Totem Sttaf?

I think Callas will agree with me that Totem achieves something special also in their price point and also a pefectly balanced speaker.

Oliver, the Totem Sttafs are very good speakers, but the Excite X16 was equally as good, they just have slightly different tones.

I would think the X32s are a slightly better speaker then the Sttafs based on what I have compared between the X16s and the Sttafs

[BigAl87]

Originally Posted by rded

Well.... Where's your review?! Don't just right a one sentence blurb?!

Originally Posted by callas01

Oliver, the Totem Sttafs are very good speakers, but the Excite X16 was equally as good, they just have slightly different tones.

I would think the X32s are a slightly better speaker then the Sttafs based on what I have compared between the X16s and the Sttafs

Bla Bla Bla you can read my review on the X32 in my thread. With your authorization Rhett I will post it here.

[BigAl87]

Rhett I took the chance of posting it here anyways

I must say quite disapointing in the begining not really disapointing second best In my Book after the Sttaf because of the mids seemed to be lacking a little compare to the Sttaf but defenately had a bit more bottom end with the dual woofer X-over with their 1rst order. Did not feel as much seperation in the sound as I did with the Sttaf.

Now to answer this Question mark, I said ok fine they sound amazing but a little something was missing seperation and definition in the sound that I had experience on Sttaf and also Rainmaker not to forget as I target the Rainmaker.

I asked the salesman to change the amp from a 2200$ Moon audio (great product by the way made in Quebec) for those who know. Upgraded the amp to a 3300$ Moon again and insteand of the 1300$ moon cd player we went to something a little more sophisticated to a 3000$ cd player just about the same price as the Arcam cd37 on wich I heard the Staff.

At this point Amps and CD players were aple to aples comaparaison and
let me tell ya that the Excite X32 came to life, Separation and detail were above and beyond belief and gave me that great smile on my face, same one I had when I audition the Sttaf.

Everything comes together nicely really great deep bass perfect midrange and those tweeters Rhett you said it absolutely phenomenal.

One thing Steve had mentioned the Totems have this Magic tho I think they are more adaptable in a way than the Dyns, the Rainmaker and Staff respond better IMHO to a lower end gear speacially the Sttaf as it's the most versatile I heard them with an Integra receiver with a 200$ cd player and sounded almost as good as they did on the arcam obviously with less detail separation.

I would say with that 3300$ Moon IA I think the Dynaudio has the edge over the Sttaf but on lower end System the Sttaf is more forgiving.

Those speakers don't lie as Steve said.

Now those bastard wont even order a pair of X12 for me to audition wich really sucks. As I said the supplier does not have one either they wanted me to buy if I wanted to hear the X12, I told them politely look I want to compare apples to apples, Monitor speakers in the same price range and they said well we cant. One thing I know now is they have been carrying Dyns for quite a while and they will continue to carry them. They had just barely recieved them 2 weeks ago but break in was done. They also sold their Audience 72 SE last week.

Now I'm ready to buy my Rainmaker as they are much easy to get and I know what to expect from them.

FYI Steve the 1300$ lower end Moon IA 45wpc blew away a 100wpc cambridge IA in the same price range. So the 2200$ was not shit I can tell you that much. I had compare those 2 amps on the Lextor 6, Entry level Dali that sounded fantastic A sound I love but not as Great as the Dyns or Totems.

The 3300$ Moon IA seemed to surpass the peformance of the Arcam A38 also 3300$ but I heard the X32 and not the Sttaf. X32 by a close margin.

BTW guys that Brothers in Arms SACD wow the bass was phenomenal speacially with Money for Nothing, those hit on the snair in the begining woohoo!!!! Amazing mids and when the bass drum kicks in well your hair raises all over your body.

[jaxwired]

Originally Posted by BigAl87

Jax you'ye said it all right there I heard the X32 to day I can say with a great fact of certainty that they are friggin amazing speakers but my question is have you heard the Totem Sttaf?

I know Totem often gets compared to Dynaudio. Totem also get's very good reviews and their products are reasonably priced and look gorgeous. For those reasons I've always wanted to try them out, but I've never had the chance. No dealers in my area and I never got around to buying a used pair to demo. I've been tempted. The hawk, rainmaker, and model-1 are the models that most interest me. Someday, maybe I will get the chance to hear these great speakers.

So, no, I can't compare them.

[callas01]

OK, well after a long time, I am now an official Dynaudio Owner. I just have to finish paying off the invoice, but I now own a Pair of Excite X16s in Rosewood.

[BigAl87]

Originally Posted by callas01

OK, well after a long time, I am now an official Dynaudio Owner. I just have to finish paying off the invoice, but I now own a Pair of Excite X16s in Rosewood.

Congrats Steve, I'am so happy for you, My question is what are you going to be using to drive them?

Next purchase after the receiver will be the X22 I guess.

[callas01]

Originally Posted by BigAl87

Congrats Steve, I'am so happy for you, My question is what are you going to be using to drive them?

Next purchase after the receiver will be the X22 I guess.

Will use the Sony for a short time, wife says I have to get the X22 and receiver with taxes and NOTHING ELSE for A LONG TIME, which I am cool with, so I will probably get whatever gets me the best price.

[BigAl87]

Originally Posted by callas01

Will use the Sony for a short time, wife says I have to get the X22 and receiver with taxes and NOTHING ELSE for A LONG TIME, which I am cool with, so I will probably get whatever gets me the best price.

She's nice I mean it's not so bad of a wait, I still target Feb for my IA and TT.

[callas01]

yeah, she is awesome. Its nots so bad. I cannot wait. And I will be setup for a while. Who knows, maybe I will buy Rhetts Denon 3311, when he buys back his Arcam 600. IDK, there is gonna be some tough decisions next year.

[BigAl87]

Originally Posted by callas01

yeah, she is awesome. Its nots so bad. I cannot wait. And I will be setup for a while. Who knows, maybe I will buy Rhetts Denon 3311, when he buys back his Arcam 600. IDK, there is gonna be some tough decisions next year.

Is that for real he's getting back his 600

[callas01]

Originally Posted by BigAl87

Is that for real he's getting back his 600

I think so... Im sure he'll confirm that for you

[prerich]

Originally Posted by callas01

I think so... Im sure he'll confirm that for you

Congrats on the terrific purchase of Dynaudio speakers! I just know that you will enjoy them!
p.s. If you can - I would get a third x16 if it doesn't block your screen

[callas01]

Originally Posted by prerich

Congrats on the terrific purchase of Dynaudio speakers! I just know that you will enjoy them!
p.s. If you can - I would get a third x16 if it doesn't block your screen

Thanks Rich..... Unfortunately, I cannot get a 3rd one cause of the way my TV stand is. However, I cannot wait to get them in the house.

[BigAl87]

Originally Posted by callas01

Thanks Rich..... Unfortunately, I cannot get a 3rd one cause of the way my TV stand is. However, I cannot wait to get them in the house.

Man Steve I have to say Quality cables made difference. Alot of quality cables out there but not always the best pairing, From John's experience I decided to take the plunge altho I did not get the same wires as him, I decided to go with Totem Tress and the result Steve is a warmer sound and eliminates the buzz that the other wires where creating in the tweeter. Ironically my salesman just told me that Totem despises Monster cables cause they create some buzz in the Totem speaker which are very sensitive, I said you know what I have this problem in some tracks where the speaker is put to the biggest stress.

He said there you go, you should see an improvement with this. I was in shock

Let's put it this way I was sceptical myself but I think you should go with waht Dynaudio recommends. Ocos cables

[callas01]

Originally Posted by BigAl87

Man Steve I have to say Quality cables made difference. Alot of quality cables out there but not always the best pairing, From John's experience I decided to take the plunge altho I did not get the same wires as him, I decided to go with Totem Tress and the result Steve is a warmer sound and eliminates the buzz that the other wires where creating in the tweeter. Ironically my salesman just told me that Totem despises Monster cables cause they create some buzz in the Totem speaker which are very sensitive, I said you know what I have this problem in some tracks where the speaker is put to the biggest stress.

He said there you go, you should see an improvement with this. I was in shock

Let's put it this way I was sceptical myself but I think you should go with waht Dynaudio recommends. Ocos cables

Are you going to give me the money for the Ocos cables??????

$500 for a 3 meter pair.... Ummm..... i don't think so. I am probably gonna get Anti-Cables. there is a guy on AVS forum that swears by them and he has Dyn speakers. I can get the front 3 speakers for about $80

glad you got a nice set of cables. how much did they cost you?