The Dark Knight Rises (2012)

[TylerDurden]

Originally Posted by javy3

no i agree with you. In fact i think bane was a much better villian and the movie was better then tdk. Bane had a plan and aside from being very intelligent he was also quite a formadible opponent for batman physically as well, unlike the joker.

Joker kind of just set stuff up without much of a real plan, heck it could have all ended for him when he gave two face the chance to shoot him if the coin said so.

I love tdkr and am finally glade that they did bane respect instead of just making him a venom junkie that once he is cut off from his supply he is defenseless.

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[Blu-Malibu2009]

Originally Posted by Javy3

No I agree with you. In fact I think Bane was a much better villian and the movie was better then TDK. Bane had a plan and aside from being very intelligent he was also quite a formadible opponent for Batman physically as well, unlike the Joker.

Joker kind of just set stuff up without much of a real plan, heck it could have all ended for him when he gave two face the chance to shoot him if the coin said so.

I love TDKR and am finally glade that they did Bane respect instead of just making him a venom junkie that once he is cut off from his supply he is defenseless.

The most interesting thing about Bane to me was his sense of humor. I fully expected him to be very smart and a badass, but I didn't expect him to be as funny as he was. That scene at the stadium where he goes, "What a lovely, lovely voice!" cracked me up. Reminds me of the Joker in terms of twisted humor. Crack a little joke and then do some serious property damage right after. Tom Hardy brought some of the sarcastic cheekiness that we've seen from him in the past. It's a great performance, and I must also give credit to the Nolan brothers for their characterization in the script. They did a great job writing for both the Joker and Bane.

[bookcase]

I though the Joker was menacing and unhinged, which made him frightening. On the sheer strength of physical prowess, I found Bane terrifying. I think they both excel on completely different levels.

[blumunny]

Originally Posted by MifuneFan

Here's the steelbook link for anyone else looking: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Dark+Kni...1312731&loc=01

Thanks for the link I was looking for the steel on Bestbuy.com and I couldn't find it.

Thanks to you I just pre-ordered.

[bttfiii]

Bane can and did beat the crap out of batman. Joker cant do zip in close combat with bats.

On his statement about a guy with no plan, I kinda lost respect for the character cos obviously the whole school bus set up at the beginning was a big elaborate plan.

[Blu-Malibu2009]

Originally Posted by bttfiii

Bane can and did beat the crap out of batman. Joker cant do zip in close combat with bats.

On his statement about a guy with no plan, I kinda lost respect for the character cos obviously the whole school bus set up at the beginning was a big elaborate plan.

Nah, Joker was just manipulating Dent. Everything he did was the opposite of what he told Dent. "I'm not a schemer." Clearly he was a schemer and was simply trying to get Dent to go over the edge.

[killermike2178]

Originally Posted by kashif

Thanks. What you wrote above is the same I felt about TDK too Glad to see you liked this one so hopefully I will too. Once again thanks for the reply.

I concur. I cannot help but feel TDK would not have gotten as much "love" as it did if Heath hadn't OD'd. But, I suppose I shouldn't dwell to much on 'what if's" when we have "what is".

Nevertheless, I loved TDKR much more than TDK, because of Bane. While the Joker got his kicks off of chaos and making Gotham City and Batman feel scared by not knowing what was coming next, Bane got his kicks off of despair, by telling everybody what he was going to do, after putting them in a position of being unable to do anything to stop him. This, in contrast, makes him so much more menacing than the Joker, as he is pure sadism incarnate. He tells Batman that he is going to destroy Gotham, only after he's put him in a position to where he will not be able to stop him. And rather than announce ahead of time to the city to what was coming, the way the Joker did,Bane just blows the $#!+ out of Gotham, and then has Dr. Pavel arm the bomb, telling everybody that he's the only person in the world who can deactivate it, and then kills him right in front of everybody in the stadium. Can you imagine how that would make you feel, knowing there's nothing you can do to stop this?

However, I would love to live in a world, where Heath Ledger had lived, so they could make a fourth movie, where Joker and Bane join forces. They would have been unstoppable...

[v_squared123]

Des anyone know of any Canadian stores selling the bat cowl limited set? I just ordered it from amazon.com and have to pay like 8 bucks for shipping to canada amazon.ca doesnt have that set. Bestbuy here doesn't and futureshop here doesn't either. Also where are there Canadian dark knight rises steel book pre orders at?

[Early Memphis]

I hadn't commented on this before because I haven't seen TDKR yet - I don't go to movies anymore, I wait for them to come to me. However, I wasn't that impressed with TDK because it wasn't really as much about Batman and I wasn't really all that impressed with either the Joker character or Heath Ledger's performance (at least I assume that's why I couldn't really get off on the movie as much as Batman Begins, which I loved).

The thing is, all the noise around TDKR seems to be about the bad guy - and if that's the way it is, then Nolan and Bale have missed the boat again, in my book. The movies are supposed to be about Batman, not every enemy he comes across. Begins managed to have a hell of a strong bad guy while remaining, essentially, about Batman. I guess I'll know in a month or so ...

[v_squared123]

Found the link for the steel book preorder. Now where are those Canadian batcowl editions?

[killermike2178]

Originally Posted by Early Memphis

I hadn't commented on this before because I haven't seen TDKR yet - I don't go to movies anymore, I wait for them to come to me. However, I wasn't that impressed with TDK because it wasn't really as much about Batman and I wasn't really all that impressed with either the Joker character or Heath Ledger's performance (at least I assume that's why I couldn't really get off on the movie as much as Batman Begins, which I loved).

The thing is, all the noise around TDKR seems to be about the bad guy - and if that's the way it is, then Nolan and Bale have missed the boat again, in my book. The movies are supposed to be about Batman, not every enemy he comes across. Begins managed to have a hell of a strong bad guy while remaining, essentially, about Batman. I guess I'll know in a month or so ...

Don't let this Bane talk dissuade you from seeing TDKR. He's not actually in the movie that much, unlike the Joker, who ate so much screen time. He just gets so much talk because he left that big of an impact on audiences. TDKR is very heavily Bruce Wayne/Batman oriented the same way Batman Begins was, although I felt it came off to a much slower start than the first two movies, and there's even more going on, too. But once Batman comes into the movie at the 45 min mark (for a 2 hr, 45 min movie, that's still fairly early in), things get into gear. My favorite part is the "So, that's what that feels like" bit. I won't go into full detail with it, but it had my entire theater laughing, myself included. Needless to say, if you liked Batman Begins more than TDK, then you will love TDKR, because it was made for people like you...

[Blu-Malibu2009]

Originally Posted by Early Memphis

I hadn't commented on this before because I haven't seen TDKR yet - I don't go to movies anymore, I wait for them to come to me. However, I wasn't that impressed with TDK because it wasn't really as much about Batman and I wasn't really all that impressed with either the Joker character or Heath Ledger's performance (at least I assume that's why I couldn't really get off on the movie as much as Batman Begins, which I loved).

The thing is, all the noise around TDKR seems to be about the bad guy - and if that's the way it is, then Nolan and Bale have missed the boat again, in my book. The movies are supposed to be about Batman, not every enemy he comes across. Begins managed to have a hell of a strong bad guy while remaining, essentially, about Batman. I guess I'll know in a month or so ...

Bale gives a great performance in TDKR, far better than his phoned-in performance in TDK. Batman in the Batsuit is barely in TDKR though. Just warning you. This one is far more about Bruce Wayne than Batman.

Originally Posted by killermike2178

Don't let this Bane talk dissuade you from seeing TDKR. He's not actually in the movie that much, unlike the Joker, who ate so much screen time. He just gets so much talk because he left that big of an impact on audiences.

I think you would be surprised at how small Ledger's screentime in TDK is. He looms large over the entire film because everything he does has a huge impact on the other characters, so even when he is off-screen you still feel his presence. He has around 30 minutes of screentime in a 150 minute movie.

[Early Memphis]

Originally Posted by killermike2178

Don't let this Bane talk dissuade you from seeing TDKR. He's not actually in the movie that much, unlike the Joker, who ate so much screen time. He just gets so much talk because he left that big of an impact on audiences. TDKR is very heavily Bruce Wayne/Batman oriented the same way Batman Begins was, although I felt it came off to a much slower start than the first two movies, and there's even more going on, too. But once Batman comes into the movie at the 45 min mark (for a 2 hr, 45 min movie, that's still fairly early in), things get into gear. My favorite part is the "So, that's what that feels like" bit. I won't go into full detail with it, but it had my entire theater laughing, myself included. Needless to say, if you liked Batman Begins more than TDK, then you will love TDKR, because it was made for people like you...

Oh, I'm definitely going to see the movie - more than once. I have the trilogy on pre-order. But thanks for telling me that it's more about Bruce/Batman than the second one (I just never bought the whole running away thing at the end). If Bane is just the cherry on top - and Batwoman the spice - I'll be thrilled (except for the part about this being the last one before yet another reboot - I hear a black Batman is next. Oh, wait, that's a James Bond rumour ).

[kashif]

What about the Bat Cowl Packaging? Are you interested? Well, i am very much but the problem is I will have to pay a nice amount to get it to my country. Maybe a shipment of USD 25 or more so thats why I am very confused!

So is there any pictures revealed of Bat Cowl Packaging? I mean where the discs will be placed and also what memorabilia and figures etc are included?

[JavaJulien]

Originally Posted by Blu-Malibu2009

Bale gives a great performance in TDKR, far better than his phoned-in performance in TDK. Batman in the Batsuit is barely in TDKR though. Just warning you. This one is far more about Bruce Wayne than Batman.

Honestly, the way I judge it is, the amount of enjoyment you'll get out of it tends to go hand and hand with how much you liked Batman Begins. Rises is just about a direct continuation of that story while The Dark Knight doesn't get referenced much at all.

I didn't like Rises as much because it felt like it was longer than it needed to be. And it introduced too many plot points for the final installment.

[buckeye1]

What are the odds the BB price will go go down before Dec. 4th? I'm hoping maybe $19.99, but I'm sure it will be atleast $24.99.

[ahmadka]

For the BB Steelbook edition, is the Reborn documentary on BD or DVD ?

[jmbenesh]

Originally Posted by buckeye1

What are the odds the BB price will go go down before Dec. 4th? I'm hoping maybe $19.99, but I'm sure it will be atleast $24.99.

I'd have to think the combo pack and the steelbook will be right around $20 at BB. That's a pretty standard new release price.

[steveve]

Just preordered the futureshop (same as BB US) steelbook for $39.99. Really hope the Blu Ray banner isn't printed on the top. It's also a bit more expensive than the standard release, but hopefully it'll have all the same features at minimum.

On a side note, not a fan of UV, I wish it had a Digital Copy. Cuz UV relies solely on your internet connection.

[Dispatch Ninja]

If I pre-order at best buy, will I be charged right away or when the item ships?

Edit - Nevermind, I just looked it up. Not sure if I should preorder or wait till release day though. I really want the steelbook and don't want to risk it being sold out at my store, although I'm sure they'll have plenty of copies.