Ancient Aliens Season 1

[Alpha]

Originally Posted by Jimmy Smith

People claim lots of stuff and eyewitness testimony is literally the worst evidence ever

Please read the Gorilla Experiment

Also if your one who believes the Government is capable of covering up something like that let me repeat one word WATERGATE or how about WIKILEAKS. The government are a bunch of incompetant clowns who are not capable of covering up anything signifigant for long. Like most conspiracy theroys this assumes an absurd belief in government efficiency

Nobody is saying there is no possibility that aliens exist. Thats a strawman. Skeptics like me are only saying there is no direct evidence they have visited Earth or interacted with humans. There could well be millions of aliens civilizations out there. Even if life is so rare that only one in a billion planets produces it that would still leave a billion planets with life given the universes immense size. However even if thats true it would still mean nothing to the legitamacy of this series claims

That's exactly what they want you to think. And I don't mean to sound like a nutjob by saying things like "that's what they want you to think", but it's the truth. You named two events, two events which are kind of not all that important in the grand scheme of things. They let those things "leak" so everyone can think "oh wait, our government ISN'T all that secure, so of course they can't ever lie or deceive us! Yay!". The government (or the one within the one we know about [see: Shadow Government]) has more power than you can ever imagine. That's why things like JFK's assassination and 9/11 were all "successfully" covered up. I use the word "successfully" loosely though, particularly with 9/11 because this little thing called the internet has provided the public with an insight they never had before. And really, that's why so many other historical events in the past like Pearl Harbor and the Gulf of Tonkin were easily pulled off. The majority of the public relied on the media back then, nothing else. It was perfect, the people were spoon-fed the garbage they were told to believe. The sad part is, there's still a good amount of people who rely solely on mass media and what they're told on TV. I mean, just taking a look at simple things like Operation Northwoods will give you a look into what the government does when they need to. 1962, and they were thinking of hijacking airliners and blaming it on Fidel Castro for the sole purpose of making the public get behind the idea of going to war with him and Cuba. 1962...39 years before 9/11, and everyone says it's impossible our government could even think of such a thing, LOL. The one person who stopped Northwoods and said it wasn't right was JFK, and in another year, they took care of him. See, but no one knows or even cares about these small details though. Small details like the fact that documents on the JFK assassination will be declassified in 2017, when pretty much everyone involved will either be very old or very dead.

"Wait, weren't we talking about aliens?" Yes, my point with the above is that our government is FULLY capable of hiding such things. People like Phil Schneider ended up dead for a reason. Others are kind of safe because the majority of people label them as crazy people. The technology we have right now didn't all come from the human mind. There was some help along the way, just as there was in the past. You say there's no evidence or proof that aliens have visited Earth or interacted with our race, but then how do you explain the pyramids, the 1,000+ ton stones perfectly fitted to form structures, the precisely etched granite, the oddly shaped creatures ancient people drew...the list goes on. Mind you, all this took place thousands of years ago. The people of the past had no way of conveying what they saw to the people of the future other than writing about what they experienced and sketching out rough images of what they saw. People didn't have words like "UFO" back then, but they had terms like "god". Even now, thousands of people go missing every year. Thousands are never found. How is that possible? Again, mass sightings around the world. Not every single one is true, but is every single one false? No. I can't say I blame those who cover up the truth though. I mean, the simple idea to some people is the shock of their life. Mass hysteria and chaos would definitely reign upon the human race if the truth was ever made public. It's sad really.

But hey, I'm a guy who loves him some Blu-rays and a show about "what might have been", so I can't possibly know what the hell I'm talking about

[Nielsb90]

Originally Posted by AdotTwizzle

How is that insulting? That's like if you find a picture of a 3 year old who is slam dunking on a 10ft goal but everything in you've been taught suggests that a 3 year old isn't capable of jumping 8 feet in the air and dunking a basketball without some outside assistance from someone more advanced.

That's not insulting its just logic. I'm not saying its fact, I'm saying it's a logical conclusion and any 3 year old who would be insulted by that needs to grow up. Pun intended.

Who said they weren't just better engineers than us?? Remember - the pyramids were build over thousands of years! The earlier ones are rough in apperance but as their skill increased, so did the quality of the pyramids! The Egyptians were willing to spend an enourmous amount of their money on this because of the God-like status of the Pharaos! Which means they had thousands of years, almost unlimited resources, and workers who were willing to work their whole life on some monument (I've read that a lot of the Egyptian workers were treated well, compared to what you might believe. Occasional days off, the right to own property and have a family etc.).. I'd say they would have been perfectly capable..

[Navy Blue]

I haven't read the whole thread (sorry, but it is quite long!)

I love this show, I watch it every chance I get - didn't occur to me to buy it on DVD or BR! Anyways...

Originally Posted by Lincoln6Echo

Yeah, I've been watching it. Pretty cool stuff. Out there? Nah, not reallly...it's actually starting to make me question my Faith. In this past Sunday's First Reading (I'm Catholic) from the Acts of Apostles, it pretty much described an alien encounter that injected everybody present with a universal translator.

The way I look at it, probably every mention of the Gods in the Bible could be explained as being extra-terrestial encounters. Think about it, if aliens could travel at or above the speed of light, their visits to Earth 2000-2500 years ago could seem just like yesterday to them.

I was raised Catholic but was never really big into the whole thing and am non religious these days (not sure if I'd be atheist or agnostic, or a bit of both...?), and sort-of always thought of "god" as being an alien (even when I was too young to comprehend the notion properly)

Originally Posted by Lincoln6Echo

On the contrary, I have a real big problem with atheists. In essense, atheists would deny the ancient alien theory as well if extrapolated out.

I'd buy the Ancient Aliens theory!

I don't believe in the theory of evolution all that much neither. Because the fact is that the large majority of species that ever existed on Earth are extinct. Why? Because they couldn't evolve and adapt to new changes, or because each species were created as is?

Interesting point - I've never understood how Evolution worked, animals only developed eyes in order to see prey/predators - what did they do before they had eyes then, starve? Live without fear of being eaten and multiply out of control?

[Alpha]

Originally Posted by Navy Blue

I was raised Catholic but was never really big into the whole thing and am non religious these days (not sure if I'd be atheist or agnostic, or a bit of both...?), and sort-of always thought of "god" as being an alien (even when I was too young to comprehend the notion properly)

Ha, same boat here. But I never used to relate aliens and god/religion when I was younger. It was only after learning about "reality" that it became clear. I mean, the simple fact is that back then, there was no other word for such beings/a being besides "god". And I'm sure those beings took advantage of that title wherever they could. Another thing too is that they pretty much formed the basis for a controlled race. Religion adds purpose to some people, and back then, that would've applied to nearly everyone. What better way to control people than to promise them something that only you can prove by means of power only you possess? You know, like resurrecting from the dead, turning things into food, "floating" with halos, etc.

The evolution thing doesn't quite add up either. There's been research indicating that the human brain has "evolved" something like 300,000 times more than any other species within the same period of time. Pretty much impossible according to the logic of evolution. That alone makes it obvious there's been some tweaks here and there throughout our existence. And I mean some MAJOR tweaks. I always think of 2001 A Space Odyssey, only instead of obelisks, there was actual physical intervention by whatever created us. A lot of people say we were an experiment, or an experiment that went horribly right. I'd like to believe we were completely planned and executed perfectly.

I know to most, things like this sound ridiculously obsurd, but please, just think about it. Think about the possibility.

[Jimmy Smith]

Originally Posted by Alpha

The evolution thing doesn't quite add up either. There's been research indicating that the human brain has "evolved" something like 300,000 times more than any other species within the same period of time. Pretty much impossible according to the logic of evolution. That alone makes it obvious there's been some tweaks here and there throughout our existence. And I mean some MAJOR tweaks. I always think of 2001 A Space Odyssey, only instead of obelisks, there was actual physical intervention by whatever created us. A lot of people say we were an experiment, or an experiment that went horribly right. I'd like to believe we were completely planned and executed perfectly.

I know to most, things like this sound ridiculously obsurd, but please, just think about it. Think about the possibility.

You obviously know nothing about evolution. Nothing about evolution says that creatures have to evolve at the same speed. Evolution can happen remarkably fast in some cases like the breeding of dogs or incredibly slow like in the horseshoe crab. Organisms only evolve if the right selective pressures exist to favor changing in one direction or another. Our brains evolved because environmental pressures favored smarter apes. Those with bigger brains were more likely to survive and thus pass there genes onto the next generation. If an organism to perfectly adapted to its environment as it is the organism can remain reletively unchanged for a long time and there is nothing about this fact that contradicts evolutionary science. My advice is to read more about real science and less of the Weekly World News

[Beerserker]

Originally Posted by Navy Blue

Interesting point - I've never understood how Evolution worked, animals only developed eyes in order to see prey/predators - what did they do before they had eyes then, starve? Live without fear of being eaten and multiply out of control?

Before there were eyes there were other sensory devices that enabled the animal to find food. Sensory hairs and chemical receptors among them. But many very primitive animals had rudimentary "eyes" very early on, little more than a light sensitive patch.
Here is a video that may shed some light on the evolution of the eye.

Evolution of the eye - YouTube

It is good information to have because the eye is always a hotly debated subject for those who deny evolution. The claim is that the eye is irreducibly complex, and therefore there can be no evolution. That claim is simply not true.

[Beerserker]

Evolution and all that other stuff aside, I really do like the show. I get a kick out of all the enthusiastic experts and their hypotheses, and I must admit it is fun to suspend disbelief for a time and ask "what if". In fact I think it is an important aspect of a healthy mind to do so from time to time.

But when it is all said and done I cannot believe in these theories anymore than I can the religious ones. I will not deny the possibility that aliens visited, it is not something that can be disproven, but the ancient astronaut theorists have not met their burden of proof. They are simply speculating. It is still fun all the same.

[Jimmy Smith]

Originally Posted by Alpha

. And I don't mean to sound like a nutjob

Well you failed at that big time

Your rant maybe the most downright nuttiest thing Ive ever read. It scares me that there are people who really believe such nonsense

I hope for the sake of humanity you are joking

[Istoryahe]

I'm considering buying the 1st edition of Ancient Aliens as i think its grand. My only problem is the features depending on what side of the pond the blu ray was released.

We all know that PAL uk bluy's get the rough end of the stick. amazon uk says its 3 disc's and all region PAL. amazon US mentions its region locked with no mention of special features.

History channel UK shop is linked to amazon uk so thats no use for me. What i need is an answer from 2 people, from England/america who have bought the thing on blu ray.

If i can buy it for £14 new and its the same as the locked edition US, i'll buy that

Thanks

[Alpha]

Originally Posted by Jimmy Smith

You obviously know nothing about evolution. Nothing about evolution says that creatures have to evolve at the same speed. Evolution can happen remarkably fast in some cases like the breeding of dogs or incredibly slow like in the horseshoe crab. Organisms only evolve if the right selective pressures exist to favor changing in one direction or another. Our brains evolved because environmental pressures favored smarter apes. Those with bigger brains were more likely to survive and thus pass there genes onto the next generation. If an organism to perfectly adapted to its environment as it is the organism can remain reletively unchanged for a long time and there is nothing about this fact that contradicts evolutionary science. My advice is to read more about real science and less of the Weekly World News

Actually, I know quite a bit about evolution. Yes, there are varying ranges when it comes to actual evolution. Not everything evolves at the same speed, but there aren't huge differences that hit numbers of 300,000 times more than the average rate. It just doesn't work that way. Just look at other smart species on Earth. Nowhere near our capacity, yet some were around longer than us. "Environmental pressures" are less believable than aliens themselves

Well you failed at that big time

Your rant maybe the most downright nuttiest thing Ive ever read. It scares me that there are people who really believe such nonsense

I hope for the sake of humanity you are joking

What failed big time was your reply. I take it no counter-argument(s) could be reached, so you just when with the classic "yeah, you're crazy". Thanks.

And for the "sake of humanity"? If humanity is as blind as you are, there's no hope to begin with.

[datlocolatino]

Originally Posted by Alpha

Actually, I know quite a bit about evolution. Yes, there are varying ranges when it comes to actual evolution. Not everything evolves at the same speed, but there aren't huge differences that hit numbers of 300,000 times more than the average rate. It just doesn't work that way. Just look at other smart species on Earth. Nowhere near our capacity, yet some were around longer than us. "Environmental pressures" are less believable than aliens themselves



What failed big time was your reply. I take it no counter-argument(s) could be reached, so you just when with the classic "yeah, you're crazy". Thanks.

And for the "sake of humanity"? If humanity is as blind as you are, there's no hope to begin with.

[Jimmy Smith]

Originally Posted by Alpha

Actually, I know quite a bit about evolution. Yes, there are varying ranges when it comes to actual evolution. Not everything evolves at the same speed, but there aren't huge differences that hit numbers of 300,000 times more than the average rate. It just doesn't work that way. Just look at other smart species on Earth. Nowhere near our capacity, yet some were around longer than us. "Environmental pressures" are less believable than aliens themselves



What failed big time was your reply. I take it no counter-argument(s) could be reached, so you just when with the classic "yeah, you're crazy". Thanks.

And for the "sake of humanity"? If humanity is as blind as you are, there's no hope to begin with.

This says it all

You really can't disprove your points because they are all are baseless claims without any evidence. Anyone can make a whole bunch of senseless claims and then challenge you to debunk them. Its a classic tactic of internet trolls. I could easily link to numerous scientific studies that debunk conspiracy theroys (Popular Mechanics did a fantastic debunking that put all 9/11 conspiracies to rest for every sane mind) but there is little point I doubt you will read them and even if you do you will think they are part of the grand shaddow government conspiracy or something.

Also animal evolution has been absurd happening at faster speeds then human evolution happened with no aliens involved. You know nothing about evolution nor anything else

[Alpha]

Originally Posted by Jimmy Smith

This says it all

You really can't disprove your points because they are all are baseless claims without any evidence. Anyone can make a whole bunch of senseless claims and then challenge you to debunk them. Its a classic tactic of internet trolls. I could easily link to numerous scientific studies that debunk conspiracy theroys (Popular Mechanics did a fantastic debunking that put all 9/11 conspiracies to rest for every sane mind) but there is little point I doubt you will read them and even if you do you will think they are part of the grand shaddow government conspiracy or something.

Also animal evolution has been absurd happening at faster speeds then human evolution happened with no aliens involved. You know nothing about evolution nor anything else

Argument aside, that video was great, lol.

In all seriousness, like for 9/11 alone, there are two smoking guns. The first is WTC 7, the second is the Pentagon. If anything, just take a look at this and this. Read up on both men if you'd like, but it can't get any more clear than that. Also, if you have the time, please check out this. Pretty much tells you what happened at the Pentagon on 9/11, and how credible witnesses like police officers completely say the opposite of the official story WITHOUT knowing it to begin with (they weren't aware/told what the official story was until after they said what they saw).

No need to link me to anything related to debunking 9/11, or in fact, 9/11 itself. I've seen most, if not everything. Popular Mechanics was, and continues to be the only public publication to claim a debunk. And even then, it's flawed completely. A few days ago there was a news article saying a scientist plans to debunk the "conspiracy theories" with scale models, and I'm very interested to see how that goes. Heck, if someone came up to me with a good enough offer, I'd debunk the crap out of anything, provided I don't need to use things like models and factual details (see: the Popular Mechanics debunk). Think about it. One publication compared to the thousands of Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth? No thanks.

To quote Mr. England, it's not history, it's His Story

About evolution, you just keep saying I know nothing about it. Please research the studies that have been done. Simply put, our species does not fit into the theory of evolution. We've grown (intellectually) far too rapidly to even compare to other species on this planet.

[Jimmy Smith]

Originally Posted by Alpha

Argument aside, that video was great, lol.

In all seriousness, like for 9/11 alone, there are two smoking guns. The first is WTC 7, the second is the Pentagon. If anything, just take a look at this and this. Read up on both men if you'd like, but it can't get any more clear than that. Also, if you have the time, please check out this. Pretty much tells you what happened at the Pentagon on 9/11, and how credible witnesses like police officers completely say the opposite of the official story WITHOUT knowing it to begin with (they weren't aware/told what the official story was until after they said what they saw).

No need to link me to anything related to debunking 9/11, or in fact, 9/11 itself. I've seen most, if not everything. Popular Mechanics was, and continues to be the only public publication to claim a debunk. And even then, it's flawed completely. A few days ago there was a news article saying a scientist plans to debunk the "conspiracy theories" with scale models, and I'm very interested to see how that goes. Heck, if someone came up to me with a good enough offer, I'd debunk the crap out of anything, provided I don't need to use things like models and factual details (see: the Popular Mechanics debunk). Think about it. One publication compared to the thousands of Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth? No thanks.

To quote Mr. England, it's not history, it's His Story

About evolution, you just keep saying I know nothing about it. Please research the studies that have been done. Simply put, our species does not fit into the theory of evolution. We've grown (intellectually) far too rapidly to even compare to other species on this planet.

BULLSHIT

Im guessing the above video made you put the sinking of the Titanic was all part of the bizzare 9/11 alien roswell JFK conspiracy

Im still hoping your just an internet troll trying to bother thinking skeptics with claims as nutty as you can think of

Wasn't 9/11 enough of a conspiracy as it was. Islamic radicals guided by the teachings of there religon conspired to kill thousands and bring a world superpower to action. So they did it with a low budget using only extreme hate, deception, and determination and hand held store bought weapons as Penn puts it

None of the lunatics in the 9/11 Truth movement have any real credibility and every claim has long been debunked by real structural engineers. Hell Loose Change made many claims that any 14 year old with a google search engine could easily disprove. Hilariously they claimed in there first edition that Bin Laden would never wear a gold ring only to have to remove this from the second edition after numerous videos and pictures of Bin Laden with Gold Rings long before 9/11 were posted. The fact that they were disproven so easily shows just how little thought or research was put into this nutball production.

You spit on the graves of the thousands who died that day and you aid Islamic terror. Id say the fact that your alive is alone proof that 9/11 was not a conspiracy. If the government was able to kill thousands of its own citizens and cover it up so well as to leave not a shred of real evidence you think they would let losers like you blab about it too an internet forum. If the government was as you say it is they would track your IP address to your home and make sure you never type to expose them again. However you don't operate under fear that will happen meaning you don't really believe what you say

[Alpha]

Originally Posted by Jimmy Smith

Im guessing the above video made you put the sinking of the Titanic was all part of the bizzare 9/11 alien roswell JFK conspiracy

Im still hoping your just an internet troll trying to bother thinking skeptics with claims as nutty as you can think of

Wasn't 9/11 enough of a conspiracy as it was. Islamic radicals guided by the teachings of there religon conspired to kill thousands and bring a world superpower to action. So they did it with a low budget using only extreme hate, deception, and determination and hand held store bought weapons as Penn puts it

None of the lunatics in the 9/11 Truth movement have any real credibility and every claim has long been debunked by real structural engineers. Hell Loose Change made many claims that any 14 year old with a google search engine could easily disprove. Hilariously they claimed in there first edition that Bin Laden would never wear a gold ring only to have to remove this from the second edition after numerous videos and pictures of Bin Laden with Gold Rings long before 9/11 were posted. The fact that they were disproven so easily shows just how little thought or research was put into this nutball production.

You spit on the graves of the thousands who died that day and you aid Islamic terror. Id say the fact that your alive is alone proof that 9/11 was not a conspiracy. If the government was able to kill thousands of its own citizens and cover it up so well as to leave not a shred of real evidence you think they would let losers like you blab about it too an internet forum. If the government was as you say it is they would track your IP address to your home and make sure you never type to expose them again. However you don't operate under fear that will happen meaning you don't really believe what you say

Lunatics eh? I trust you have Ph.D's and MD's, or an education for that matter? Thought so.

Loose Change is one of worst documentaries to watch, let alone use in any discussion. It was a very early release that wasn't even meant to be a "claim" to begin with. The latest incarnation (An American Coup) is a bit better, but it still lacks the fine details other documentaries have. It's funny though because the average person who actually believes the official story about 9/11 immediately shouts "Loose Change" whenever they're confronted about anything other than the official story. Just goes to show how many are still stuck in the past.

The only ones desecrating the people murdered that day are people like you, continuing to support even more loss of life based on their deaths. Ignoring who took their lives and blindly believing exactly what you're told is the highest level of disrespect. Do you know how many family members of those who died that day are fighting for the truth everyday? Seriously, if the FAMILIES not believing the official crap story is not enough to at least make you think, then there really isn't a point.

You mentioned things that have been debunked. Please, by all means, show me footage of Flight 77 hitting the Pentagon. Tell me how a plane 125 feet across from wing to wing can fit into a hole roughly 65 feet wide? Tell me why Flight 77 didn't just dive straight into the Pentagon when it was in plain sight, and instead made a 270 degree circled descent right to ground level (which I may add, the Pilots for 9/11 Truth have said is impossible, even for them). Tell me why almost every single witness to Flight 77 saw the plane coming from the north side when the official story says it came from the complete opposite direction (this would also mean the plane hitting the light poles couldn't have happened...which it obviously didn't). Tell me why so many people still saw the same airliner after the explosion at the Pentagon? Tell me why the FBI and CIA confiscated every single surveillance tape in the area that would've actually showed the plane hitting? Tell me why so many people heard explosions throughout the two towers after impact? Tell me why so many people heard an explosion BEFORE the first plane hit (see: William Rodriguez). Tell me why what Susan McElwain witnessed sounds nothing like a jumbo jet. Tell me why so many people heard explosions at WTC 7. Tell me how such a building could free fall with all floors intact. Tell me why WTC 7 was omitted from the 9/11 Commission. Tell me why so many war games were taking place on the same day (one involving the same concept of planes hijacked into buildings). Tell me why Barry Jennings (who is now dead) saw dead bodies in WTC 7 before it even fell. Tell me why someone like Lloyd England would say 9/11 was "planned". The list goes on (and believe me, that's an understatement).

If 9/11 was exactly what they say it was, and you believe it 100%, then by all means, please address the above. If 9/11 wasn't a false flag operation, the above wouldn't exist.

If people like you are so fed up and angered with these "conspiracy theories", prove them wrong. It's been 10+ years and no one has yet to do that. It's amazing!

[Jimmy Smith]

I don't need to answer any of those questions because again Popular Mechanics already answered every single one of those questions. Popular Mechanics debunking was one of the greatest things ever done in the history of skeptisim. It took every lunatic fringe "inconsistancy in the official story" and completely explained it with hard science.

Its not enough to find "inconsistancies in the official story" You need to present your own complete theroy on how 9/11 happened in its place. 9/11 Troofers haven't done and that and those that try are usually inconsistant between them and full of there own inconsistancies. Most seem to believe it was some plot by the Jews or something

Again though I win because the fact that your alive is proof 9/11 wasn't a conspiracy. Why is this evil shaddow government not shutting you down?

[Blu-Dog]

Originally Posted by Alpha

Do you know how many family members of those who died that day are fighting for the truth everyday? Seriously, if the FAMILIES not believing the official crap story is not enough to at least make you think, then there really isn't a point.

I simply didn't quote the rest.

I had a co-worker in the second tower, above where the second plane hit. He was there to support the computer network. It was not his regular assignment, he was just supposed to be there for the week, substituting for the regular tech who was at a training session elsewhere.

We were able to talk to him on his cell for a while. He then attempted to round up the staff - mostly women - and somehow find a way to get them past the flames below, and outside.

We never heard from Chris Scudder again. He was a true hero. He is survived by his mother, and his daughter. They know what happened. The whole world knows.

All these people who make up stories, generating "controversy" for attention, do not have my respect. That way of thinking is what generated Von Daniken's lies and fake research, and while it may always be with us, it should not be supported, endorsed, or even entertained.

Your opinion may differ, but I, for one, will not respect it.

[Blu-Dog]

Originally Posted by Alpha

You mentioned things that have been debunked. Please, by all means, show me footage of Flight 77 hitting the Pentagon. Tell me how a plane 125 feet across from wing to wing can fit into a hole roughly 65 feet wide?

The wings folded back where they met the wing root, attached to the fuselage. This was a reinforced concrete structure, not a windowed office. This has already been modeled.

I think this is the wrong venue for this discussion.

[Mavrick]

Who needs to worry about evolution when clearly we were created thanks to Ancient Astronauts (or Aliens if your so inclined) altering the DNA of whatever was here before modern humans.

How else do you explain the missing link? It's because there is none, we were altered scientificly to become advanced like we are today. We didn't evolve from any of the discovered species to date.

Just my thaughts anyway. Until science can prove Evolution, because you know, it is still just a theory

[Jimmy Smith]

Originally Posted by Blu-Dog

I simply didn't quote the rest.

I had a co-worker in the second tower, above where the second plane hit. He was there to support the computer network. It was not his regular assignment, he was just supposed to be there for the week, substituting for the regular tech who was at a training session elsewhere.

We were able to talk to him on his cell for a while. He then attempted to round up the staff - mostly women - and somehow find a way to get them past the flames below, and outside.

We never heard from Chris Scudder again. He was a true hero. He is survived by his mother, and his daughter. They know what happened. The whole world knows.

All these people who make up stories, generating "controversy" for attention, do not have my respect. That way of thinking is what generated Von Daniken's lies and fake research, and while it may always be with us, it should not be supported, endorsed, or even entertained.

Your opinion may differ, but I, for one, will not respect it.

Im sorry you had to go through that. I agree your friend was a true hero and his memory should be praised

9/11 conspiracy idiots spit on the memory of those lost. Some go as far as to propose that some of the victums were in on the plot and some have suggested that some are still alive and working for the government. But even those who don't go that far still spit on there memories by taking blame away from the religous extremists responsible. Islamic terror has been attacking the civilized world for 1400 years the only difference between 9/11 and daily centuries old terror is the size and scale of the attack. Honor killings and execution of homosexuals and apostates is a daily occurance in the Islamic world. By questioning 9/11 they defend the greatest evil the world has ever known